Gyno from everything :(

[nzrodney]

I am just going to add a couple of kgs thats gotten lost during the years and then maintain.
It's no problem to keep the gynecomastia under control, and as long as it doesn't hurt I really don't care. I don't have much fat there so no one notice it, at least none have done in the past.
But I always like to know why and how things happen.
And also since I want to find some AS that I can continue to use in the future, this are my mission at the moment.
So far I have found out that Winstrol works perfect and Masteron also seem to work fine.
The only problem with these 2 are that while I respond very well, feel good and manage to put on ok amount of meat with Winstrol.
I don't like the 17 alpha-alkylated part and it sometimes hurt my joints.
The Masteron are better there.
But this is the first time I try it and at least after 1,5 weeks, I can't say that I have noticed anything at all similar to the effect I get on Winstrol.
So if the pace doesn't pick up it would had been nice to find another substance that I could use.

It maybe that you have both lump gyno & prolactin gyno. THe lump gyno should have been treatable with the AI regime that you have applied but if reversal has not been sucessful with letro @ 2.5mg ED you may face the prospect of surgery to correct this. However, you complain of sore nips which can be prolactin based esp if they get puffy as well or you get swollen glands under the pecs which you can feel & is painful or sore to touch. Probably the best case treatment for this is a combination of AI & A-dex or Letro together with a hyperprolactinemic treatment like Dostinex at .25mg EOD. I have prolactin problems & I have found that I have had good success with OTC 6OXO Extreme & also Formadrol Extreme about 5 caps ED for about 4 days kicks mine while on cycle. cheers,nz

 

[guntherzwartz]

Feels like a combination like you say yes, but I never had any problems with lactating.
Anyway I guess I will try to run the combination of Masterone and Winstrol for 3-4 weeks, and then continue with only Masterone for 1-2 weeks after that.
Then I should have managed to pack on the last kgs I am missing.
And if that combination works out ok, and my liver values are pretty ok, I guess I will just stay with running one of them or a combination in the future.

The lump stuff are about 1inch by 2 inches in size by the way but the size changes.
Its always more tender, sore and larger during the day than in the morning and evening, and the right one are the worst.
Doesn't go so good together with my work as a driver, where the seatbelt goes over my right chest

It maybe that you have both lump gynecomastia & prolactin gynecomastia. THe lump gynecomastia should have been treatable with the aromatase inhibitor regime that you have applied but if reversal has not been sucessful with Femera - letrozole - @ 2.5mg ED you may face the prospect of surgery to correct this. However, you complain of sore nips which can be prolactin based esp if they get puffy as well or you get swollen glands under the pecs which you can feel & is painful or sore to touch. Probably the best case treatment for this is a combination of aromatase inhibitor & A-dex or Femera - letrozole - together with a hyperprolactinemic treatment like Dostinex at .25mg EOD. I have prolactin problems & I have found that I have had good success with OTC 6OXO Extreme & also Formadrol Extreme about 5 caps ED for about 4 days kicks mine while on cycle. cheers,nz

 

[Trendsetter21]

Try Andriol. The users of Andriol therefore do not experience feminization symptoms such as gynecomastia or increased body fat.This makes it a welcome alternative for athletes who have problems with the common injectable testosterone compounds. Due to this, Andriol is also suitable for pre competition workouts. An additional advantage of Andriol is non-aromatizing quality consists of the fact that the body"s own hormone production is only affected after a long-term administration of very high dosages.

Andriol is Testosterone Undecanoate made by Organon. You take it orally and is the only oral Testosterone pill around currently. The other suggestion of surgery is a great idea. If you are that prone to it I would say screw it and get the surgery. But here is another option if you don't want that........but if Primo is giving you Gyno, I would suggest the surgery.

 

[georgie24]

i get itchy nips off anything even primo, i also had puberty gyno then the surgery a few years ago,,,,,,still get itchy nips however!

 

[bmcadoo44]

bro, i did a pretty hard cycle last january and my gyno slowly got worse and worse. I tried AIFM, aromasin, nolvadex, letro, cabaser and nothing worked. Go to your doctor and do not tell him you have used steroids, tell him it is either hereditery or you got it during puberty and he will refer you to a surgeon and more than likely your insurance will cover it.

I told my doc that i had done roids and he said that my insurance wouldnt cover it, and he reffered me to them and i was denied. I found a new doctor and the surgeon has me scheduled for surgery december 17th with insurance covering it.

good luck with that shit and i will never touch trenebolone or deca/npp ever again.

once i get out of surgery, i will be hitting up some test prop,masteron and either winstrol or anavar.

 

[guntherzwartz]

Managed to keep my gains training clean, but have been losing around 1 lbs each time I have been sick, and can't regain those.
So I have now started up with 50 mg Winstrol ed to get back up again. My plan is to stay on for around 4 weeks, then start on some Ari and maybe some Nolva as well, when I go off the Winstrol.
Hope I will manage to keep it under control this time.
Then later on I will try some Clenbuterol for the first time, and see if that can get rid of some of the fat that have accumulated on my chest.