Gyno From Deca? Yes Or No!

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

I've used Deca(@500mg/EW) in two of my cycles... stacked with Test both times. Never experienced ANY symptoms of Gyno.

I've also used EQ with Test and found Deca to be(at least)twice as potent as EQ. EQ made me hard... Deca makes me THICK and hard.

 

[BigTom]

No Gyno, I used only 200mg a week Solo, this was my first cycle, took it for 8 weeks, gained about 15 pounds, 5 bloat, so 10 total BF% was the same. I also gained Strength was up 20-40 pounds in all excercises.

 

[searay]

i have major probs with gyno and have to keep the doses low with items like test, dball. deca did give me gyno and nothing would make it go away until i started .5mcg dostinex 2x wk. for me its def the progesterone..........

 

[BionicBC]

Alright, Mr. Smartypants. Where is the proof? Not one person has used Deca alone and complained of gyno symptoms.

There is a little things called evidence that needs to be presented before you can get all self-righteous on me.

thats because youre not gonna find too many people who run Deca only cycles in the first place bro.
Bionic

 

[trinidad]

Yes, I've gotten the rebound gyno from deca. Started getting sore nips so began running nolva and ran it through post.Seemed to take care of the problem. It was well after post that I developed the lump. Had gyno surgery on it to remove it and the doc did an excellent job. Would I recommend deca? Yes. Everyone reacts differently. I'm currently running NPP which is a quick acting deca and so far no problems. Just keep an eye on things and take precautions. Don't take too high a dose to start and see how you feel.

 

[sestes]

I'm new - what is GYNO?

 

[trinidad]

Short for gynocomastia. Check out this site it includes pictures: http://www.ricksilverman.com/gyno_faqs.html

 

[Texas Ranger]

Yes, I've gotten the rebound gyno from deca. Started getting sore nips so began running nolva and ran it through post.Seemed to take care of the problem. It was well after post that I developed the lump. Had gyno surgery on it to remove it and the doc did an excellent job. Would I recommend deca? Yes. Everyone reacts differently. I'm currently running NPP which is a quick acting deca and so far no problems. Just keep an eye on things and take precautions. Don't take too high a dose to start and see how you feel.

What doses are you using on the NPP?

 

[sestes]

I see, thanks.

 

[trinidad]

What doses are you using on the NPP?

Syrus prop/NPP both @ 100 mgs. eod.

 

[shamrock11]

The causes for test gyon are different than those for deca. Just b/c your prone to gyno from test doesn't mean you will be prone to it from deca. I'm doing 400mg/week deca only and haven't gotten any signs of gyno. I'm in my seventh week.

 

[LoneTree]

I am taking Deca 300+Tren 250+Eq 200.
Not even an itch in my nipples.

 

[shadowhunta]

it seems to me that most of the folks reporting gyno from deca were stacking it with potent androgens. how can you be certain that the effects were from the deca and not the dbol, adrol, or test?

and for those who say they got gyno off deca alone, are you sure you were using deca? a lot of fake decas are some type of test.

if someone did get gyno from using deca alone (and it was real) then it would suggest that those individuals had a genetic propensity towards gyno, not that deca causes it across the board.

not downplaying anybody's experiences or anything like that; just saying that all factors need to be considered...

 

[Prince77]

Let's be clear on one thing as I was wondering about the gyno from deca thing as well, if you do get the pogesterone gyno, isn't arima as opposed to nolva the way to go? I've heard that nolva doesn't take care of it since the deca gyno is from your progesterne. Arima does counteract this right?

 

[Advisor_x]

Deca and oximethalone...........bad combo for me but gyno is coming as soon as week 2......

 

[jokerswild]

I got it this cycle from 500mg wk Deca, hard knot under left nipple.......

 

[Ulter]

Nostalgia. I miss Big Brother Val.

 

[Mike LI]

Deca works great for me. When stacked with test I grow like a weed. No real side effects from either

 

[bigrand]

Test makes my feel like shit, deca, feel lovely, never signs of gyno. Deca at 450mg a week and anadrol next cycle for sure.
1) cholesterol--2)pregnenolone--3)Progesterone which converts into test, cortisol, or aldosterone.
Progesterone gyno is far less prevelant. Estrogens are the primary hormone of breast tissue growth.

Deca please.

 

[deltron2000]

so how come letrozole doesnt do shit for trashed nips on deca?

 

[bigrand]

letrozole is an aromitase inhibitor, deca doesnt aromitize to estrogen.

 

[deltron2000]

OK but how come some VETS AND MODS say that bitch tits need estrogen to grow??

 

[bigrand]

From what ive been reading, breast tissue has both estro and prog receptors, estrogen being the predominant initiator of growth, but progestins can play a part, if the individual is sensitive. Its complex, but its seems estro is the main culprit.

 

[twar543]

I've used up to 475mg of Deca a week. I did get the usual Gyno-Paranoia, but that's just what it was. Paranoia. My nips got a little tender towards the end, but I've been off my cycle for a couple of months now and everything has returned to normal. Don't sweat it and stay around or below 400mg a week!!

I ran deca 300/week w/ test E 500 with no gyno. My only complaint with deca was that it made my triceps so damn hard they were constantly tight & sore. Never run EQ, but thinking about it w/ test my next cycle

 

[random]

I started a front loading with deca 400mg the first day i have nothing for the moment i will tell u if i have gyno during my cycle i m using Proviron50mg ed and nolva20mg almost ed.
I should use Test E soon.

 

[random]

Fiveth weeks with deca/sustanon and no gyno to report i still have 9weeks we will see.
Actually i m using letro EOD or sometimes and proviron ED 25/50mg.
I have nolva but it may increase the deca gyno if i get it then i prefer to stay away from nolva. I m waiting for my bottles of Dostinex(cabaser) and i m actually takin a Vitamines B-complex everyday 200/400mg of all vitamines B.

 

[JohnRambo]

I've never faced any gyno-symptomes on deca, and never used anti-e's..

 

[random]

what was ur dosage? lenght of cycle? stack with deca?

 

[BrettB1]

did 300mg every 4 days for 8 weeks with winny 50mg tabs every day. No problems whatsoever, except trying to explain to my girlfriend where the gains were coming from so fast!

 

[solidspine]

I have never had gyno, but always use AI's

 

[trowsersnake98]

ran it for about 12 weeks at about 250wk for the first time and had no problems. 2nd run was at 250 again and by week 4 a pornstar couldnt give hard on and my nips were hurting terribly. small lumps developed and i threw my fucking bottle of deca away. NPP only from here on out with cabasser and b6.

 

[Acela]

never but only run @ 300mgs EW

 

[alchemist]

Progesterone induced GYNO.
QUOTE]

OK. It's time to clear up the general misunderstanding on these boards that progesterone causes gyno because it doesn't. Prolactin is responsible for gyno as a result of Nandrolone usage. PROGESTERONE BLOCKS PROLACTIN! Progesterone blocks gyno caused by prolactin secretion by blocking the prolactin. Progesterone is what prevents a woman from producing breast milk during pregnancy. Immediately after giving birth the woman's progesterone levels drop sharply and prolactin production begins and along with it milk production. I don't know how many times I've read this misconception regarding progesterone on this board and others. This is a prime example of how misinformation is spread on the internet by people regurgitating the posts of others without any understanding of what they are regurgitating. This board is the absolute pinnacle of regurgitation with absolute zero understanding of that regurgitation.

D

 

[the_alcatraz]

ran it for about 12 weeks at about 250wk for the first time and had no problems. 2nd run was at 250 again and by week 4 a pornstar couldnt give hard on and my nips were hurting terribly. small lumps developed and i threw my fucking bottle of deca away. NPP only from here on out with cabasser and b6.

It's not called "dead-dick" for nothing mate...

 

[off_safety]

It's not called "dead-dick" for nothing mate...

a poll from 2001? really? seriously? huh. really?

 

[ceo]

fuckin sweet! Big Brother Val! The Iron Game! Huckleberry Finnaplex! 2Thick! Ranger! And more...long list of folks no longer here. Nostalgia. I miss those guys. Most people here don't remember all of them. Good bump.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Bumped again for CEO.

 

[tropo]

An interesting thread spanning almost 7 years. What happened to those member from back in 2001?

 

[theblondebomber]

An interesting thread spanning almost 7 years. What happened to those member from back in 2001?

their all dead.LOL

 

[ceo]

they moved on.

 

[the_alcatraz]

they moved on.

To bigger and better things?

 

[cadey]

when using de.ca at 400 mg with test at 500 mg noticed pea sized lump in right nipple towards end of cycle. went away within a few weeks of coming off. never got gyno from anything else so i pressume it was caused by the de.ca

 

[ALIN]

Okay, damnit.

I have one concern about Deca. Not Deca-Dick, not bloating, not IM fat deposits, shit... I don't even care if I don't gain worth a whore on it... my concern is GYNO.

Progesterone induced GYNO. I am really prone to gyno from Test... I don't know if I'll have the same effect on Deca, or if I should even really be concerned.

I grow like a weed on EQ. Better than I do off of Test. So Deca intrigues me, I'd like to see how I react.

So this poll is essentially designed to give me the vote on how many of you have ACTUALLY GOTTEN GYNO FROM DECA.

No rumors.

No scientific proof that it will or will not happen.

I want personal experiences.

Thanks for taking the time to help.

its purely individual. I say most will not have a problem if used right in moderate dosage

 

[wheyman090]

400 mg/week....no problems for me

 

[Cry0genix]

OK guys ..
Ive read pages 1-11 and wanted to go ahead and post up a quick reply while Ive got a computer available...

Ive done what I would consider a pretty good amount of research on Deca and the and the postive and negative effects it may have, but am curious about ...you guessed it, Gyno.

I took my FIRST "cycle" of 200mg/1CC per 10 days for 60 days to see how my body took it. I was overweight but not in AWWFUL shape at 5'10 285 lbs, played football in high school, just had gotten out of shape. After getting positive results, and dieting properly i knocked myself down to 250lbs by the end of the "mini cycle" and chopped about 4 inches off my waist. I was told I should not need to take an estrogen blocker or any kind of post cycle of a minimal dose of only deca. Waited about 6 weeks and started another cycle of deca at 200mg/1cc per 7 days and am on week 6...I'm now weighing in at 228-230 and have noticed dramatic increase in strength, decrease in body fat, and increased energy. NOW. Of course at 285..I had man boobs...now, I am noticing some dramatic change but am still seeming to hold on to the fat around my chest and stomach...more likely that I need to hit my chest and stomach exercises harder...? Do more cardio than weights in my workouts..,? OR could this be a sign of gyno...Ive experienced no sensitivity in my nipples, no growth in them, and the area around my chest HAS gotten smaller with the loss of weight...just figured it would be smaller than it is. OPINIONS here from EXPERIENCE please guys. WHat are some things I could do to determine if this is the case, and how would I go about getting an estrogen blocker if necessary (Im not opposed to taking something else..but would need to know how to go about getting it)

 

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[Different]

just check you prolactin and progesterone levels. if too high it could be from deca. just use dostinex+hcgenerate then.

 

[Flexnds]

If your ok on EQ then you'll be just fine on Deca.

 

[Johnny 138]

If your ok on EQ then you'll be just fine on Deca.

Completely false. EQ is not a 19nor like deca. EQ does not pose any threat to elevate prolactin and as a matter of fact it barely aromatizes. This statement is completely baseless.

 

[christdupont]

Agreed ^^^^