guys this post may save your life.

[Japanese machine]

I think this guys heart was in the right place, but his ideas weren't on the right track completely. The only thing I think is true, are the guys who have done 4 cycles and are still under 200lbs. And I'm not talking about the shorter guys who are 5'4-5'7. I see some people who are 5'10-6'3 who are cycling and can't get past 200. Yet they all claim to be gaining AND keeping 30-40lbs a cycle! Get real.

Everyone has different goals bro; what if those 4 cycles were cut cycles, or very mild cycles? ive hit 3 very mild cycles and still under 200lbs; im also 5'9. So its all in relation to you goals, hell i easily could have hit a test/dbol/fina, but i chose not to, for longevity reasons; heath wise and gear wise.

 

[RADAR]

you---you-----mean.........i...willl...never be .....like majik....johnson???????????? RADAR

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Kaoz, there was nothing moronic about my post. Petty insults are childish. With that in mind, I believe you need to re-read my post. I was talking about the kids who post that they've done 3-4 cycles, and gained 20-30lbs on EACH ONE, and never lost a lb. Yet somehow they are all under 200lbs. It's just foolish bullshit, that gives unrealistic dreams to people who are new to juice.

Also, I think anyone who wants the Brad Pitt look that you describe, certainly doesn't need juice. If they can't get like that natural, then they need to seriously look at their training, and nutrition.

Genetics play a part, indeed they do. But if you have a waist as wide as your shoulders, then no amount of juice will help. People who juice just to get that 'model' look quickly ( fuck working for it! I don't care if it can be done naturally, I want it in 6 weeks!), in my own opinion, are lazy. So, I am sorry if valid points are moronic.

 

[Dr.M]

I think the better reason to wait until you've trained for awhile, is so that you know what your doing, you know your going to stick with training for awhile, and you hopefully know how to eat right.

Other than that, I don't see a reason why some skinny kid can't start right off with roids, but honestly I would likewise advice against it, you should learn how to train and gain naturally, all the gear is going to do is make you more a "man" than you already are hormone wise, but if you can't train/eat right then yes, its a waste. I think this is the reason that so many people have done your "4 cycle" example and still look like they barely work out, I've seen it on another board guys that look about like me or slightly smaller, and they've been doing gear through 3 or more cycles, and I wonder WTF is going on.

My genetics are nothing special at all, but if you do things right it does come in time. I think experience is the key, the wisdom you pickup over time, I don't think it has a damn thing to do with needing to be a certain poundage or etc.

FWIW, I haven't done a second cycle yet, soon!

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Dr. M, with your attitude, I am sure your goals will come to you.

You are one of the few people that seems to understand that you can't jump into this without knowledge of training, and nutrition. That is why a lot of people need to juice to get that 'model look'. They never learned how to train properly, or eat. So they are always searching for that 'quick fix'. I firmly believe the only way to instill those basics, are to stick it out natural for a while. Those type of people need to learn how to train properly, how to gain naturally, how to eat to gain, etc. Otherwise they will be doing 5 cycles a year, just to 'maintain'. Sad really.


Ps. I hate to use the 'model' look as my example. It's just the only come back people gave me, were for people who want to look like 'brad pitt'. I think there is nothing at all wrong with that goal, or that look. But it is a look that you can achieve with good training, and solid nutrition.

 

[RICOSUAVE]

I got and idea for dick4ladies , change you screen name to CRACK_HEAD_BOB, did you though this all on your own or you got help?

 

[troybday]

Silverback says it the best, "hey dickface, shut the fuck up and shot yourself" This guy better just go on Musclur warriors grape fruit stack if he wants to look like Magic Johnson, i think that's the only thing that will work, or maybe the herb-bol/banana peel stack, go get em tiger...thanks for saving me!!!

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

MODS, please make this a sticky.

This is very important, earth shattering, cutting edge news.

 

[strider364]

How did thid find it's way to the chat board?

Comic relief I guess.