Guys, PLEASE help me decide on my second cycle.

[Mr_Pincushonass]

My first cycle was sust 250mg/wk for 8 weeks. Gained and kept 22lbs and dropped 1% bady fat, (Very good results). For my second cycle should I do........

sust 500mg/wk for 8 weeks
deca 300mg/wk for 8 weeks
d-bol 20mg/wk for first 4 weeks

or...........

sust 500mg/wk for 8 weeks
deca 300mg/wk for 8 weeks
No d-bol.

I want to keep it as simple as possible with the best results as possible. Health comes first.

questions:

1. Should I wait to use d-bol for future cycles when I really need to stack to make gains?

2. This is kind of a hard question but, how much more weight do you think I would gain if I kept the d-bol in the cycle? Im just curious. Im not counting water weight, i mean lean muscle weight.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Either one will be fine and you will be pleased with the results. However, you will be much happier, much quicker with the dbol. Why? Because that will kick in by week 1 or 2. The test and deca will kick in around week 4-5.

But in the end, it's your call.

 

[Mr_Pincushonass]

Thanks a lot for the response TX. But can anyone give me a good answer for my two questions, I guess it will help me to be more knowledgeable.

 

[Willyumyum]

Asking how much weight you will gain is too broad of a question... too many factors play a role in how much you gain... Anything from how you respond to the gear you are taking, your diet, your training and how much you rest.... I'd say at, around, or a little above 20 pounds is not un-realistic on the cycle WITH dbol, but your diet would need to be spot on as would your training... Good luck bro.

YUM

 

[Mr_Pincushonass]

right on. So if 20lbs is a reasonable gain with the d-bol, what would be a reasonable gain without it? I just want to know your opinions just to give me a bit of an idea.

 

[TxLonghorn]

Reasonable without dbol is 20 pounds. That's why I didn't answer your questions, there isn't just one correct answer. I know a guy who did a fina/ox cycle and gained over 20 pounds (and lost fat). Plus, 'weight gain' is the key word here. That includes fat and water in addition to muscle.

So a good answer is:
1. Should you wait? If'n you wanna wait, then wait. If not, don't.
2. You will gain more weight with dbol than without it.

These are intentionally vague because nobody knows how you will respond to the dbol or deca, or whether your diet is good, etc.

 

[Mr_Pincushonass]

hehehe, thanks TX, I know the questions were kinda unquestionable but thanks anyway. I think for a second cycle sust and deca will be all I need for a good 22lbs, since my first was only 250mg/wk of sust.

If anyone else has any opinions feel free to let me know.