guys please critique

[carrera104]

hi guys
i am 30,15%bf 170 pound my next cycle would be...

d-bol 30mg 1-4 weeks
primo acetate 4-6 pills 1-12 weeks
test e 250 0r 500 1-12 weeks not sure though...

pct
hcg + hcgenerate
liv 52 and needtoguard throughout the cycle

i have bridge too to hold gains after cycle...

i have 2 questions

is it ok to use two orals specially primo ace for that long not effecting the liver..

your inputs are highly appreciated..

 

[blue_steel74]

What are your previous cycles? And i would run 500mg of test, and opt for the injectable version of primo to keep liver toxins down. Dbol is toxic enough on its own. If you cant afford injectable primo, masteron is a great alternative

 

[blue_steel74]

And what AI's are u gna run?

 

[jondale123]

And what AI's are u gna run?

You atleast need a ai or something to make sure estrogen stays under control while on cycle i would also recomend a serm for post cycle also. my post cycle consists of clomid and nolvadex and some natural test boosters especially when your running a cycle that long. good luck man.

 

[carrera104]

What are your previous cycles? And i would run 500mg of test, and opt for the injectable version of primo to keep liver toxins down. Dbol is toxic enough on its own. If you cant afford injectable primo, masteron is a great alternative

my previous 2 cycles consisted of test e and test prop for 12 weeks..

masteron has some toxicity which i am trying to minimize...

 

[carrera104]

And what AI's are u gna run?

i have forma in hand and i might throw some Armidex...

 

[thecompound]

How tall are you?

 

[carrera104]

how tall are you?

5,7

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Definitely run test at 500. I cannot recommend you run two orals like that. I would definitely inject the primo unless you have purchased the oral version already. Definitely A-dex on hand for AI. 12 weeks is just a long time to run orals and four of those with two.

 

[carrera104]

Definitely run test at 500. I cannot recommend you run two orals like that. I would definitely inject the primo unless you have purchased the oral version already. Definitely A-dex on hand for AI. 12 weeks is just a long time to run orals and four of those with two.

would be ok to add tren to get more out of that cycle or that would too much

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Tren is a great compound. One of my favs actually but not for your third cycle. Tren comes with alot of risk bro. The sides can be hell and it can shut you down hard. If you want to run Tren it will change the dynamic of the entire cycle. What are your goals for this cycle?

 

[carrera104]

Tren is a great compound. One of my favs actually but not for your third cycle. Tren comes with alot of risk bro. The sides can be hell and it can shut you down hard. If you want to run Tren it will change the dynamic of the entire cycle. What are your goals for this cycle?

in all my previous cycles i only put 10 to 15 pound and i am really looking for a real transformation and because i was reading so much i have noticed that tren is the best way to get job done..

 

[obsessedwliftin]

That is true about tren. It will transform you. If you want lean mass gains and to cut your BF% down we need to redesign your whole cycle IMO. So as long as you are not wanting to bulk we can do that no problem. That is why I asked about your goals for this cycle. I would personally run Test p, Tren Ace, and Masteron 100mg eod. I noticed you weren't to keen on the Masteron so maybe excude that. If you already have the Test E run 500mgs split two shots a week. Run your Tren Ace at 75mgs eod building up to 100mgs eod and run tren for 8 weeks. Continue your Test until week 10. Get some caber or dostinex on hand for progesterone sides from Tren. DO NOT RUN ANY Nolva with Tren. Have PCT lined up with hcg starting week 5 through PCT. HC Generate, Post Cycle/Unleashed for after and nail down your diet to clean foods only. Train like you never have before in your life and you will get the results you are looking for.

 

[carrera104]

That is true about tren. It will transform you. If you want lean mass gains and to cut your BF% down we need to redesign your whole cycle IMO. So as long as you are not wanting to bulk we can do that no problem. That is why I asked about your goals for this cycle. I would personally run Test p, Tren Ace, and Masteron 100mg eod. I noticed you weren't to keen on the Masteron so maybe excude that. If you already have the Test E run 500mgs split two shots a week. Run your Tren Ace at 75mgs eod building up to 100mgs eod and run tren for 8 weeks. Continue your Test until week 10. Get some caber or dostinex on hand for progesterone sides from Tren. DO NOT RUN ANY Nolva with Tren. Have PCT lined up with hcg starting week 5 through PCT. HC Generate, Post Cycle/Unleashed for after and nail down your diet to clean foods only. Train like you never have before in your life and you will get the results you are looking for.

i want to ask about liver toxicity, is it exaggeration with tren or it is true..

 

[obsessedwliftin]

Tren is harsh on everything bro. It is a rough compound on the body. If you are that concerned with toxcitity I would rethink cycling with Tren.

 

[carrera104]

i made my mind bro i will take tren with test e.

thanks again for inputs

 

[obsessedwliftin]

That will be a great cycle. I would research tren sides a bit, so you will be ready for the possible night sweats and insomnia. Keep your water intake through the roof and good luck bro.