Guru Help!

[natedogg03]

I need some input here on my PCT. I'm coming off tren and prop in a couple weeks here and want to use my HCG. I've read I should have started it earlier but I'm about to strart now. After reading a post by fat sumo

"The first thing that needs attention is the testicle. HCG is needed to prevent testicular atrophy. 300-500ius every 4-5 days throughout a cycle will do the trick. IF you have waited until the end to fix the problem, take 500ius ED for the last 14-21 days of your cycle. After the testicles are taken care of we can work on restarting the HPTA. Here are a few ways in which you can address the problem"

What do you guys think of runnig the 500 ius ED? I don't want to take too much and overload my system, but I also want to make sure I recover my HPTA as quickly as possible before I use my clomid and nolvidex.

Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[sigmund]

I need some input here on my PCT. I'm coming off tren and prop in a couple weeks here and want to use my HCG. I've read I should have started it earlier but I'm about to strart now. After reading a post by fat sumo

"The first thing that needs attention is the testicle. HCG is needed to prevent testicular atrophy. 300-500ius every 4-5 days throughout a cycle will do the trick. IF you have waited until the end to fix the problem, take 500ius ED for the last 14-21 days of your cycle. After the testicles are taken care of we can work on restarting the HPTA. Here are a few ways in which you can address the problem"

What do you guys think of runnig the 500 ius ED? I don't want to take too much and overload my system, but I also want to make sure I recover my HPTA as quickly as possible before I use my clomid and nolvidex.

Thanks in advance for your input.

In my opinion - 250 IU's everyday or 500's IU's EOD, couple it up with Nolva / clomid (and .5mg Arimidex EOD - if you've got it) for 14-21 days before you finish your cycle - then, providing testical size is pretty much back, continue with Clomid / Nolva to get your LH back into normal ranges as quick as possible.

You'll probably get alot of different opinions on this. Everyone has their own schedule and to be honest that's probably best as recovery is an individual thing, what works for one person may not work for another.

 

[vandelman]

hhhmmm.....not to step on your toes bro......but I would think twice about taking HCG and clomid at the same time.

There are many ways to run an effective PCT regime, and like sigmund says...most people have their own opinions on what works and what doesn't. However, using clomid and HCG at the same time can actually keep you shut down. HCG is one powerful ass drug....do a little research on combining these two compounds and you'll be amazed at the studies that are out there on it. When I use HCG I either use it at 250iu-500iu everyday for the last 14 days of my cycle. You want to time the last shot of HCG to the compound with the longest half life. Since both prop and fina have half lives of 3 days you want to start your clomid therapy 3 days after your last fina or prop injection. Depending on how you run your HCG you want to make sure your last shot is not later than on 2 or 3 days after your last shot of fina or prop. So lets just say you went the route of taking 500 iu of HCG everyday for the last 14 days of your cycle. You would want to ensure that your 11th or 12th shot of HCG is on the same day as your last shot of fina or prop. After you wait the 3 days following your last shot of prop or fina you should take 300mg of clomid on the first day......then take 100mg everyday for 10 days....and then take 50mg of Clomid for another 10 days. This makes your PCT a total of 21 days which is pretty standard. Some dudes swear by breaking up your clomid dosages throughout the day....but the half life of clomid is long enough that a once a day adiministration will still keep clomid levels in the body at a steady level. This is just one suggestion for PCT using HCG....there are a lot of other ones out there that do work......this is what I do...and what works for me.....hope this has helped you out bro.....