Guess whos's back from the dead: John Kerry

[The Greatest]

I actually think he could have knocked Bush out tonight but instead took a clear victory over GS and this topic was Homeland security, Bush's favorite propaganda scare tatic.

Remember GOP followers say what you want about John Kerry, he is vastly more educated and polished then the man you call choosen leader. Tonight america was able to witness that "hey shouldn't our President be smart"? "Hey this guy is fully willing to send us into world war three, no matter how many 18 year old lives he takes."

 

[CFZB]

true.

 

[Carmen]

WHY CAN'T BUSH PRONOUNCE THE WORD "NUCLEAR" CORRECTLY???????

ARGH... i found that annoying.

 

[slickdadd]

He also can't pronounce terror. It's always terr. Terr.

 

[Carmen]

He also can't pronounce terror. It's always terr. Terr.

i heard that. i attributted that to his accent, although he should still pronounce things properly. the whole 'nuclear' thing is annoying cause he actually says it WRONG, with an extra letter in there.
NUKE LEE ARE
NOT
NUKE YOU LAR.
ARRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!

 

[HS Lifter]

nucular

 

[gymrat]

li can imatate him perfectly

 

[ChefWide]

How many ways can you say Kim Jong Il anyway?

He was a scared, twitching schoolboy who barely got through his prepared lines and lost his poker face on no less than a dozen occasions before I gave up laughing at his 'kid caught in candy store' demeanor.

The least 'presidential' president this country has ever seen. Even LBJ was a better comunicator than this rube.

 

[DIVISION]

How many ways can you say Kim Jong Il anyway?

He was a scared, twitching schoolboy who barely got through his prepared lines and lost his poker face on no less than a dozen occasions before I gave up laughing at his 'kid caught in candy store' demeanor.

The least 'presidential' president this country has ever seen. Even LBJ was a better comunicator than this rube.

100% Correct, nugga....

Bush has this amazing way with words.......like he's trying to recreate syllables and remix it and spit it back out......like when he couldn't pronounce "subliminal"....He kept saying -subliminibable-sublimable-subliminable_...

DIV

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Cheffy

have you ever given a speech to a group larger than maybe 10?

Kerry was awful. Over rehearsed, stunted, mechanical, and usually off topic.

Bush was bad too. The only difference was the way they were bad, not that they were.

 

[WODIN]

Cheffy

have you ever given a speech to a group larger than maybe 10?

Kerry was awful. Over rehearsed, stunted, mechanical, and usually off topic.

Bush was bad too. The only difference was the way they were bad, not that they were.

LMAO..

You've become a freeper.

 

[Carmen]

Cheffy

have you ever given a speech to a group larger than maybe 10?

Kerry was awful. Over rehearsed, stunted, mechanical, and usually off topic.

Bush was bad too. The only difference was the way they were bad, not that they were.

i didn't think kerry was a bad speaker. bush is like.. a TERRIBLE speaker. we became spoiled from clinton- who was one of the best speakers we've ever had,along with kennedy (i'm not referring to content, although he's has great speach writers too).
Kerry wasn't enigmatic, but he was certainly well spoken.

 

[hamstershaver]

i watched celebrity poker did i miss something?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

i didn't think kerry was a bad speaker. bush is like.. a TERRIBLE speaker. we became spoiled from clinton- who was one of the best speakers we've ever had,along with kennedy (i'm not referring to content, although he's has great speach writers too).
Kerry wasn't enigmatic, but he was certainly well spoken.

clinton is great, agreed, so was Reagan, but thenagain he was an actor. Clinton was a better storyteller, Reagan better at painting a "vision".

Last night, from a speaker's standpoint, was a disaster.

Kerry was very robotic, which typically reveals excessive rehearsal. Bush got flustered and then appeared to "spit his words out" which is a characteristic of nervousness.

After 45 minutes, they both needed an intermission.

 

[ChefWide]

Cheffy

have you ever given a speech to a group larger than maybe 10?

Kerry was awful. Over rehearsed, stunted, mechanical, and usually off topic.

Bush was bad too. The only difference was the way they were bad, not that they were.

That was characteristically condescending of you.

I thought we went over this before, my bad:

I won three gold's at the North American Public Speaking Championships my first year and took two gold's, a bronze and the overall my second year. I speak regularly at conventions and seminars of between 500 and 3500 guests, my largest to date being 8500 people.

I teach continuing education level and university level classes of between 30 and 100 people 4 times a year. Did I mention that I did voiceovers for The Loop Group for 6 years and work freelance doing voice overs for corporate videos? I have done work for Pharmanor, Microsoft, Macromedia, Siemens, Nokia and Sony Entertainment.

I did product pitches and proposals regulary for companies in NY during my years there, but have only flown back to do two over the past three years, kind of hard to keep in the fold from this far away.

Why, do you do a lot of public speaking, Dick?



I would crush them both, but I am not interested in lying for a living.

Kerry was the superior speaker both in form and poise. Was he a professional? Not even by republican standards.


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[Carmen]

That was characteristically condescending of you.

I thought we went over this before, my bad:

I won three gold's at the North American Public Speaking Championships my first year and took two gold's, a bronze and the overall my second year. I speak regularly at conventions and seminars of between 500 and 3500 guests, my largest to date being 8500 people.

I teach continuing education level and university level classes of between 30 and 100 people 4 times a year. Did I mention that I did voiceovers for The Loop Group for 6 years and work freelance doing voice overs for corporate videos? I have done work for Pharmanor, Microsoft, Macromedia, Siemens, Nokia and Sony Entertainment.

I did product pitches and proposals regulary for companies in NY during my years there, but have only flown back to do two over the past three years, kind of hard to keep in the fold from this far away.

Why, do you do a lot of public speaking, Dick?



I would crush them both, but I am not interested in lying for a living.

Kerry was the superior speaker both in form and poise. Was he a professional? Not even by republican standards.


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lol
i think you may have won that one.
kerry was a little stiff/rehearsed, but... thats ok. its preparation and he SHOULD be prepared. its better than fumbling over your words and seeming slightly illiterate.
i'm probably biased, but i like to look at the non-speaking candidates facial expressions. kerry looked contemplative and serious. bush looked like he was trying to look amuzed but it came off as cocky.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

That was characteristically condescending of you.

I thought we went over this before, my bad:

I won three gold's at the North American Public Speaking Championships my first year and took two gold's, a bronze and the overall my second year. I speak regularly at conventions and seminars of between 500 and 3500 guests, my largest to date being 8500 people.

I teach continuing education level and university level classes of between 30 and 100 people 4 times a year. Did I mention that I did voiceovers for The Loop Group for 6 years and work freelance doing voice overs for corporate videos? I have done work for Pharmanor, Microsoft, Macromedia, Siemens, Nokia and Sony Entertainment.

I did product pitches and proposals regulary for companies in NY during my years there, but have only flown back to do two over the past three years, kind of hard to keep in the fold from this far away.

Why, do you do a lot of public speaking, Dick?



I would crush them both, but I am not interested in lying for a living.

Kerry was the superior speaker both in form and poise. Was he a professional? Not even by republican standards.


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LOL, yes, I speak a lot too, impressive credentials though.

I do speeches / seminars for a few hundred people in things like management, leadership and personal development a few times a year. Typical size is 350, sometimes up to 500. I also do trial preparation for many of the lawyers on our staff (this is extremely tedious and very detail oriented, to the point of choosing the right individual word), and together with a friend of mine, we do consulting on verbal / non-verbal communcations for executives.

So I'm pretty good at this too. I am just amazed you could pick a winner. Wouldn't you agree that Bush had moments where he actually looked comfortable and just "talked" to the audience? Certainly Bush had moments where he was a flustered nimrod.

Kerry's voice and diction are suited to public speech but he never achieved any sense of just talking to the audience. He was like one of those guys who looks at the back of the room rather than his audience, and reads a speech he mechanically rehearsed.

 

[big_bad_buff]

what do speeches (good or bad) have to do with being president? should have nothing to do with it. i think most of us here would shit our pants if we had to speak in front of the world, and your job or getting a job depended on it

 

[RottenWillow]

If impressive, extemporarious public speaking is so damn important then ressurect Reagan or raise a clone from the DNA of his I'm sure is stored somewhere. He couldnt ever "recall" anything at all, but wow he sure was relaxed, avuncular, offhand and "talked to his audience".

 

[IvanOffelitch]

what do speeches (good or bad) have to do with being president? should have nothing to do with it. i think most of us here would shit our pants if we had to speak in front of the world, and your job or getting a job depended on it

Exactomundo!

These debates are nothing more than "intellectual intercourse" for the sheeple....er....public. Having the ability to ramble on with polish and poise has nothing to do with one's leadership qualities (or lack thereof).

I leave you with 2 thoughts:

1) Actions speak louder than words

2) Adolph Hitler was perhaps the greatest public speaker (esp. in a motivational sense) of modern times.

Need I say more? Nope. `nuff said.