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Guess what? She really DOESN'T have ripped abs

Good work VDL! :angel:
Did she send you any other information? Diet or training journal?

Come back Missy- we need more info!

Please folks let's play nicey-nicey! *flames to a minimum* :redhot:
 
WTF?

Starfish - Im lost too

I know I dont spend all day here,but geez......Ive never seen such rude replys to a question.....can someone fill me and Star in.....
 
OK... Now I am PISSED AS HELL!

First of all - you are a beautiful young girl with a beautiful body.

Second of all - DO YOU HAVE FUCKING ROCKS IN YOUR HEAD?!

Allow me to post a pic of what I looked like when I was your age...

*hint* *hint*

THERE IS NOT A FUCKING THING WRONG WITH YOUR GENETICS OR YOUR BODY AND YOU SHOULD BE SLAPPED FOR EVEN THINKING THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG!
 
Whoa gals, missyd never said she was fat! She just wants to see a 6 pack of abs. I think you need to do several things to achieve those abs. First of all is give yourself more time. You're probably pretty young, with raging estrogen, and haven't been seriously weight training for long (if you're serious at all that is). So let's lay out a plan for missyd that incorporates a solid weight training base, and a lifestyle diet rather than a quick weight loss diet. To start with we need to know exactly what you've been eating, when and how often, and exactly what kind of training you've been doing, including sets, reps, weights and cardio.
 
MS said:
To start with we need to know exactly what you've been eating, when and how often, and exactly what kind of training you've been doing, including sets, reps, weights and cardio.
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I've asked 3 times and received no response :rolleyes:
 
MS - and all others who do not realize who this poster is...

She has been posting for QUITE SOME TIME (on a few of the boards here). She is always asking the same question. "HOw do I get a six pack?" People BEND OVER BACKWARDS investing LOTS OF TIME AND EFFORT to help her only to have her come back 3 days later and say, "My genetics suck! This isn't working.... NOW what do I do?..... tummy tuck? Lipo?"

Is the picture becoming MORE CLEAR?
 
here is my current diet beverly put me on....i do cardio 4 times a week HIIT or moderate for 45 min..HIIT--20 min and some said to have a 500 grams mega refeed--par deus. so today i ate 3 bowls of HI gi cereal..and some low fat ICE cream...i thinkt at was 200 grams of carbs--crappy carbs but i feel llike throwing up..i cannot fit no more carbs in my tummy.. but this is the diet i currently have--except today!=)...(i tries the dextrose pst workout but decided not to casue i wanna alot of fat gone..)

Meal #1
1 whole egg + 3 egg whites
3 oz. 93% lean beef
1/2 cup oatmeal before cooking

Meal #2
Protein Drink: 2 Scoops Ultra Size and 12-oz water
or
5 oz chicken or turkey breast, 5 strawberries

Meal #3
5 oz. chicken (before cooking)
4 oz. sweet potato or 1/2 cup cooked brown rice
1 cup vegetables (broccoli, etc.) or salad with 2 TBS. Low Cal Dressing

Meal #4
(Same as meal #2)

Meal #5
6 oz. 93% lean beef, chicken, turkey, fish and
once or twice weekly sirloin steak
2 cups vegetables
2 tsp Flax Oil
i weight train heavy 4 times a week and no carb ups..good? or not caus eim takin in a sufficient amount..
 
OMG...........thats too much for me to handle! I'm not throwing this up at anyone, but I am very thankful I don't have to follow shit like that! I am very thankful I am blessed.
:angel:
 
missyd143 said:
here is my current diet beverly put me on....i do cardio 4 times a week HIIT or moderate for 45 min..HIIT--20 min and some said to have a 500 grams mega refeed--par deus. so today i ate 3 bowls of HI gi cereal..and some low fat ICE cream...i thinkt at was 200 grams of carbs--crappy carbs but i feel llike throwing up..i cannot fit no more carbs in my tummy.. but this is the diet i currently have--except today!=)...(i tries the dextrose pst workout but decided not to casue i wanna alot of fat gone..)
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Missy, who is the MORON who told you to eat 500gms of carbs a day? I think someone is fucking with you and giving you bad info on diet purposely.

Shit, even I don’t eat that many carbs
 
thanks ny muscle..i totally agree with your decision on the reffed..my reffed is just about 130 grams of carbs such as yams or oats...i dont need to eat HI gi carbs all day..im not on a keto diet..just normal low carb/
 
NY Muscle said:



Missy, who is the MORON who told you to eat 500gms of carbs a day? I think someone is fucking with you and giving you bad info on diet purposely.

Shit, even I don’t eat that many carbs
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yeah i was wondering the same thing..that is fucked up. people that give out wrong info on purpose should be shot.
 
tell u what missy ill give u a diet...whats ur weight? like 115-120? i cant tell how tall u are in the pic.

but on my diet you wont even be eating 1/4 of the amount of carbs you are having now..
 
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Finally you posted some info!

Missy who is Beverly? Is she the person who designed your diet? Are you willing to let someone here like NY Muscle help you? Please say yes! :)

What time of day do you do your cardio?
What time of day do you lift?

What is your body fat %? How was it tested? What is your weight? Age? Height?
What type of lifting routine do you have?

I know it's a lot of questions but people here do want to help you achieve your goals. :angel:
 
missyd143 said:
hey thanks ny muscle...can i have a diet ? do u refeed or what? isa cutting diet
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do i refeed? missy what the hell are you talking about?

Do me a favor when you post on elite, post as if we are all 3rd graders, and explain precisely what you are talking about because most of your posts are completely unreadable.


What do u weigh? And who told you to eat 500gms of carbs? What is refeed? Or mega refeed part deus? Is that like the movie naked gun part dues?
 
starfish said:
Hey now, Ny Muscle... Now I'm really lost..

:bawling: :bawling:
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follow the yellow brick road baby

im laughing because i think she must be from a foreign counrty also...her sentences make NO sense and her grammar is way off. ( not that mine is any better lol )

missy where are you from??
 
I went back and searched her old posts....
I agree that there has to be a lanuguage barrier here....

What I have gathered from what I skimmed thru (old posts) is that somebody ... had her on a keto diet and was explaining the carb up to her but somehow something got lost in the translation.
Basically think she has been applying a carb up from keto to a moderate carb diet with lots of high GI carbs in it....

Seems that there is a bunch of info coming from too many different places - it gets thrown in the sack and shook up and consquently we have a gal that can't figure out what in the hell she is supposed to be doing.
 
Ok I see now re-feed as in CARB UP..i think that’s rediculous, and at the least the carb amount is…
Its not like she is eating zero or next to zero carbs all week and a one day carb up like a typical CKD (cyclical ketogenic diet) and some dude named Par Deus recommended the 500gms which even if she WAS eating ZERO carbs during the week and one day of “re-feed” 500mgs is still WAYYYYY too much.

Where do people come up with this blabbering bullshit. Yeah ok put some little girl on 500gms of carbs 1-2 times a week and expect her to lose weight…eh eh aint gonna happen.


hey missy bottom line, listen to ME ill get you to your goal, dont listen to anyone else, they have made it worse for you.

thank you

signed...the narccissist :)
 
never mind... I missed that one where she was stalled due to starving herself but it doesn't matter overyly much.

missyd - I recommend tha you get one advisor and stick with them. NYM would be an excellent choice for this (you can thank my later NYM). That way all of your info will be linear rather than some from here and some from there. He will know what you are doing and what you are not doing and what he has said previously and why.
 
I think she took DDC's opinion as the *ahem* gospel for abs- she even started a poll. :)

If she would listen to someone and start at the beginning instead of "contest prep" she might get those abs!
 
Hmmmmm.. Temple, maybe you are right. She may be reading EVERYTHING here and trying to do it all..

Gotta lose the Lucky Charms though..
:stpatty: :stpatty:

Damn, now I have a craving for Alpha Bits.:bawling:
 
Good Luck NYM..... you obviously have WAAAAAAY more patience than I do!

(I bet that she is cute doesn't HURT the situation - LOL!)
 
bikinimom said:
Good Luck NYM..... you obviously have WAAAAAAY more patience than I do!

(I bet that she is cute doesn't HURT the situation - LOL!)
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Oh trust me I have my reasons…I love taking on new “prospects”..especially if shes a local chic lol
Ill turn her in to a POS for sure ;)
 
Hey BMOM - check that new avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NYM needs to start signing things "narcissist dog"
ahhhh well, maybe he just has a big heart...or somthin'
 
Temple01 said:
Hey BMOM - check that new avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NYM needs to start signing things "narcissist dog"
ahhhh well, maybe he just has a big heart...or somthin'
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yeah or.."something" :p :p
 
You like that, do ya? I just saw it "somewhere" and thought it properly conveyed the way I felt about my babies... :)

NYM = or something LOL, couldn't agree more! tee-hee
 
Can we please go back to basics here for a sec -- "ripped abs" -- as we all know, this is a function to a certain degree of genetics, but is primarily a body fat issue. Remembering that you can't spot reduce and to get "ripped abs", especially on a girl, you are talking bodyfat levels around 10%. Unless you are a contest prep diet, this is fairly hard to set as your expectations. Not to say it can't be done, but let's get real with our expectations for a sec. I"m not saying missy is "heavy" or this is not do-able --- I am saying, however, that I"m thinking missy has just gotten this started. First work on getting the diet to work & then just keep the training & cardio going, tweak it as you go. Dont' set "ripped abs" as your expectation immediately.
 
Well well well, this has turned out to be a far more interesting thread than even I anticipated. BMOM, I am well aware of missdy's past. However I don't think she's beyond help, she just needs a concensus plan that she can STICK TO and not question. NYM, I also recommended missdy take a few high carb refeeds (aka carb up) for some very sound physiological reasons. She's been dieting for 4-5 months without a break, her fatloss has stalled, and IMHO she needs to kick start her metabolism with some carbs. 500 grams is only 2000 calories worth, and I eat this much every 4th day at the moment and am still losing fat and gaining muscle. Par Deus and I were only recommending she do this for a few days to get her metabolism up and going again, NOT as a long term diet.

Whatever. I think missyd needs to emphasize her weight training more, and be patient and stick to a plan. Make an 18 month plan to get you where you want to be. This is realistic. This plan should incorporate lean muscle building, good diet (which includes high carb days), plenty of rest, vitamins, creatine blah blah blah. If you just want abs and you want them NOW, then lipo is the way to go. Bodybuilding is a journey, not a destination. If you don't want to take that journey then go for the plastic surgery.
 
thanks again guys. i am sorry for my grammer but i will type more clear. im just always in a rush and never check..my bad@! well i am willing to take ny muscle's diet plan. iBTW i do cardio in the am HIIT or walking on an incline for 30-45 min.. i wieght train every other day in the evening and just finished carbing up w/ ice cream cereal, crakers and bread. i did this for today and think its time to start fresh and hope this will kick start my metabolism just incase it slowed down. i dont think its a goof 500 grams of carbs but it was alot of HI gi carbs ..im saying mabye 300 grams..any help ny muscle w/ diet?
 
thanks again guys. i am sorry for my grammer but i will type more clear. im just always in a rush and never check..my bad@! well i am willing to take ny muscle's diet plan. iBTW i do cardio in the am HIIT or walking on an incline for 30-45 min.. i wieght train every other day in the evening and just finished carbing up w/ ice cream cereal, crakers and bread. i did this for today and think its time to start fresh and hope this will kick start my metabolism just incase it had slowed down. i dont think its a good 500 grams of carbs but it was alot of HI gi carbs ..im saying mabye 300 grams..any help ny muscle w/ diet?
 
You are carbing up with ice cream, crackers and bread??? Why do you want to do that?

That sounds like a dreamy diet.. :o

Ny Muscle would have to roll me through the gym door it I did that.:)
 
missyd143 said:
thanks again guys. i am sorry for my grammer but i will type more clear. im just always in a rush and never check..my bad@! well i am willing to take ny muscle's diet plan. iBTW i do cardio in the am HIIT or walking on an incline for 30-45 min.. i wieght train every other day in the evening and just finished carbing up w/ ice cream cereal, crakers and bread. i did this for today and think its time to start fresh and hope this will kick start my metabolism just incase it had slowed down. i dont think its a good 500 grams of carbs but it was alot of HI gi carbs ..im saying mabye 300 grams..any help ny muscle w/ diet?
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Missy don’t carb up with those nasty carbs, stick to complex carbs, sweet potato, brown rice, even some pasta if you like, if you want cereal try to get some that have good amounts of fiber in it, kelloggs all bran extra fiber has 13gms per serving, like 1/3 or ½ a cup, that’s a lot. Or get any type of non sugar cereal, stay away from those kiddy cereals. Also get some oatmeal and not the kinds in the bags, get whole oats or quick oats, they come in a big container, and just add some sweet and low to it after its cooked to make it taste good, and throw some protein powder in there and maybe even a dab of peanut butter, like 1 TEASPOON.

Im not sure of yoru dieting past, but if you think your metabolism is shot like MS thinks and If you have the money, go buy some pyruvate tablets and some taurine (an amino acid) take about 6grams of each.
A B –100 complex would also help, there are some others but I forget, its been years since I took any supplements other that protein powder.

As far as diet ill send u one when I get more time, maybe tonight.
 
missyd143 said:
ny muscle i thought u were going to help me..she said ice cream is bad on a carb upp?
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???????

I am confused!! Do you honestly think u can get lean eating ice cream???? Did you even read NYM's post that he took time out to write for you?? Damn, I think I've burned 1000 calories just reading all your posts today!

Ok I'm done griping now.... :mix: ARGGGHHHH!!!!
 
MS and NYM you guys are FAR BETTER PEOPLE than me....

I guess with all of the other nensense in the world (both in real life and the boards) I have developed a thick skin and am less patient....

I hope Missy realizes HOW LUCKY SHE IS to have you two in her corner. I give her two weeks tops (and that is at the far end of an extremely generous estimate) and you guys will go running from the keyboard screaming obscenities.....

PROVE ME WRONG MISSY - I DARE YOU.

I'll hold my tongue (or fingers as it were tee-hee) until either

A) I see some FOR REAL progress pics.

or

B) BOTH MS and NYM send up the white flag.


GOOD LUCK MS and NYM - YOU TWO ARE GOING TO NEED IT!
 
Sorry ny muscle..i didnt see the post w. carbs,.,,,but i did do that for a long amount of time slowly adding carbs like yams and oatmeal for the past 3 months but i thought carb up meant sugary crap? but i used to weigh 105 llbs but now im 130 llbs..---the updated pics i am 130 of course =) but i think ill just eat 100 carbs grams and 180 grams of protein and 30 grams of fat -efa..that sounds about normal and no carb ups! since im eating yams and oatmeal in the afternoon and morning
 
That’s a good amount of protein for your weight, I always like to stay on the heavy side of protein, more may not always be better but less sure is not good…whens the last time someone said “hey you should cut some protein out of your diet”.?

Your cals are 4 x 180 = 720…….4 x 100 = 400…9 x 30 = 270 total cals =1390.

If I was you id cycle your cals, some days eat around 1200 cals some days as high as 1600 cals, back and forth to keep your metabolism in check. Maybe 2 times a week eat 1600 and the rest of the week 1200.
Maybe Wednesday and Saturday have higher cals, or any 2 days of the weak, just make sure those are the days you are working out.
 
thanks alot ..um and im guessing no cardio with this routine until im unhappy with results..also the higher cals i would be taking in more of low gi carbs like wheat bread yams oats etc.......right? twice a week is good for me lol rather than 1 day of 500grams of lucky charms or carb ups...
 
missyd143 said:
thanks alot ..um and im guessing no cardio with this routine until im unhappy with results..also the higher cals i would be taking in more of low gi carbs like wheat bread yams oats etc.......right? twice a week is good for me lol rather than 1 day of 500grams of lucky charms or carb ups...
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no cardio? why not? yes do some cardio or whatver you have been doing now, and then add some more when you progress slows.
 
hardbdygrl- Read the package just because it says "wheat" doesn't mean it's good for you. The "harder" the wheat the more sugar required to activate (feed) the yeast so you get a "soft crust".

Breads - Glycemic Index

Bürgen Soy Lin 20
Bürgen Oat Bran & Honey Loaf 31
Barley kernel bread 40
Rye Kernel bread 48
Oat bran bread 50
Mixed grain bread 50
Pumpernickel 49-52
Whole grain rye bread 42
Bulger bread 55
Linseed rye bread 57
Pita bread, white 78-60
Rye flour bread 64-67
Rye, whole 50
Stuffing mix 75
Semolina bread 67
Oat kernel bread 68
Barley flour bread 69
Melba toast 71-73
Wheat bread, white 74
Whole Wheat Bread, 72-75
Tortilla, corn 70
White Bread, 69-95
Bagel, white 75
Wheat bread, gluten free 94
Kaiser roll 73
French bread 96
French baguette 99
 
Sassy69 said:
Can we please go back to basics here for a sec -- "ripped abs" -- as we all know, this is a function to a certain degree of genetics, but is primarily a body fat issue. Remembering that you can't spot reduce and to get "ripped abs", especially on a girl, you are talking bodyfat levels around 10%.
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Yes, and not only that, but you actually have to HAVE abs to start with.

Missy, I've asked you this before - DO you actually have ab muscles? Because if you don't, you will never be able to see them, even if you get down to minus 10% fat (ha).

Please perform this check for me, and I want you to report back here, OK?

Lie down on the ground as if you are going to do crunches - knees bent. Now raise your head and shoulders as if doing a crunch. Tense your abs as hard as you can, pulling the top part of them down towards the lower part.

OK?

Now, hold that position, and feel with you fingers through/under the fat on your stomach.

What can you feel there? Please describe the shape and feeling of your ab area under your fat while tensed in the crunch position.
 
Thank you NYM and MS. I'm glad we're finally getting a bit more info out of missy - I've been getting the feeling for a while now that she is horribly confused with all the advice that has been given to her. It's a feeling I can (well, sort of) relate to - I was pretty confused when I first started reading here - and diet manipulation seems to be one of the most confusing issues of all - everyone has a different opinion on pre/post-workout nutrition, the timing of meals, what type of diet to follow, how many calories to take in, etc, etc., and if you are not very good at collating, analysing, editing, synthesising and implementing information, you're sure to feel swamped pretty quickly.

For B'mom, spatts, and anyone else who has been around to see most of missy's posts and has completely lost patience, well, the above is why I think we need to give her the benefit of the doubt. This board is about trying to help people to achieve their goals (even if they have irritating personalities), and I'm not sure that, without complete information, we have the right to simply shrug them off and laugh at them. Now, I know I may live to eat those words, but the fact is, all we know is that missy has posted a lot about how to achieve ripped abs, and people have given her a great deal of information, but a bunch of it has been conflicting, and has either been too complex or too simplified (for example, Par Deus' one liners about carb refeeds - I'm guilty of doing this to her too). Neither of those information presentation techniques is effective for people with learning styles that ... do not fit the normal curve.

I don't think that just ONE well-informed person has sat down with her to try and work out an individualised plan - so, as someone here said, she's doing everything she's read all at the same time!

NYM, I would be glad to hear of the progress you make.
 
thanks steel !..i knew a bunch of info being thrown at me is a bad idea but what can i do?..listen to eveyone and have refeeds and no carb days, and dextrose post weights? i dont care im just doin my own thing now..the 50/30/20 plan and no sugar postworkout..and what u have mentionaed about what i felt when i crunch is a bit of flab with a hard ab muscle underneath...hmmmm how to rid that ...i always work my abs intensly with weights and without 4 times a week..sometimes twice if im tired..
 
Well said Steelweaver. IMHO the diet discussion board (where missyd has spent a lot of time) is one of THE worst places for a newbie to go and figure out a diet plan. On just the first page alone there are folks saying "30:30:30 is THE BEST diet", crumcake's ultimate diet to get ripped, Dr Atkin's diet, CKD, Zone, paleolithic diet, animalbolics, caveman, eat anything you want, high carb refeeds, high GI post workout, low GI all the time, no carbs ever, etc..... and there are people religiously proclaiming the perfection of each of these approaches to dieting. I think the majority of visitors to that board get confused, chop and change diets a few times, get more confused with poor results, then give up. Missyd is more tenacious than average, and should be commended for her persistance in asking which diet is best and how to "get abs". However, I think that missyd should pick one person (say, NY Muscle) and take their advice and STICK TO IT for at least 6-8 weeks. Don't bother reading other boards or asking questions....just DO IT for a set period of time and see what kind of results you get. You have to give it some time and commitment.
 
Missyd143 - I wholeheartedly agree with MS (don't think I have ever disagreed with her). To have someone like NYM offering to take you under his wing and get you on the right path is an offer that you are a fool if you pass up. Listen to noone but him and you will see results.
 
missyd143 said:
i dont care im just doin my own thing now..the 50/30/20 plan and no sugar postworkout..
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STOP!!!! doing your own thing, and do what NYM tells you to do. Do NOTHING EXCEPT what he says. DO NOT listen to anyone else right now. Follow NYM's plan for AT LEAST 6-8 weeks. FOLLOW it properly. Do not do your own thing. After 6-8 weeks, he/we/you will reevaluate, OK??? Got it?


missyd143 said:
and what u have mentionaed about what i felt when i crunch is a bit of flab with a hard ab muscle underneath...hmmmm how to rid that ...i always work my abs intensly with weights and without 4 times a week..sometimes twice if im tired..
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OK, missy, it's time to tell us your weights routine now: exercises, sets, reps and weights for each. EVERYTHING. OK? Working abs 4 x per week is not optimal - it's too much. The ONLY 2 things that will make you be able to see your abs are a) you have abs, and b) diet. You cannot lose fat only on your tummy by doing lots of ab exercises. Impossible.

Now, that hard ab muscle you felt - what shape was it? Was it flat? Or does it have have hard lumps?
 
I'm completely flabbergasted....I just do not know what to say. Are these real pictures??? I can't believe this is a real person. Anyway, I am not here to bash anyone, but hopefully everything works out well Missy...Good luck.

Just PLEASE stick to one plan for at LEAST 8 weeks like MS stated.

I would also suggest that you take biweekly pictures so that everyone can see your progress. A lot of times looking at yourself everyday can be deceiving. Pictures are pretty motivational. Even if gains are slow, i'm sure you will get positive comments from the members, which is a great confidence and motivation booster. You are not that far off...just don't try and rush shit...which = STICKING TO ONE PROGRAM FOR 6-10 WEEKS, AT LEAST!!!

Again, good luck with your future gains...god knows we all want you to reach them.

BMJ
 
hey well i luv reading comments but im ready for ny muscles diet plan..i weigh 130 weight trian 45 min 2 bodyparts a day every other day...besides that i decided to save cardio until i reach a sticking point in NY's diet ...thanks alot.
 
missyd143 said:
hey well i luv reading comments but im ready for ny muscles diet plan..i weigh 130 weight trian 45 min 2 bodyparts a day every other day...besides that i decided to save cardio until i reach a sticking point in NY's diet ...thanks alot.
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dont worry missy i didnt forget you, i have a lot to do at work but im writing your diet too, i should be done by the end of the day.
 
low reps --high weight...4 sets of bi curls and back...i cant explain all of them but my arma and everything are good..i just need a fixed sound diet from ny muscle...to reveal abs a bit
 
yes i do work legs out intenly and i am happy with my results..im just not that cut and dont think i need any reffed when i am low carbing..i had a refeed yesterday of about 350 carbs worth of cereal and low fat ice cream and potatoes..i felt fat but hopefully that would restart my metabolism...if not i am not refeeding like that until i reach a bf% of 11 or 9..which is my wish
 
Missyd -
I am not asking about your diet...
All I want to know is
what day you work chest and what exercises
what day you work back and what exercises
what day you work legs...
what day you work biceps...
what day you work triceps...

You need to let NYN put a TOTAL program together for you and NOT just the diet...
 
mon-
back n bi's

tues-
off or cardio

wed-
chest and tri's

thursday
off or cardio in am

fri-
shoulders

sat-off day
sunday=----LEGSSSS for 1.5 hours
 
mon-
back n bi's

tues-
off or cardioabs

wed-
chest and tri's

thursday
off or cardio in am and abs

fri-
shoulders

sat-off day
sunday=----LEGSSSS for 1.5 hoursand some abs
 
Heh heh heh.....Imma bust in herrr for a sec.........

Azia's Work Out schedule:

Mon., Wed., Fri - EVERYTHING!!! (except I don't work out chest anymore)

Tues., Thurs., Sat. - Cardio..............

Aren't I boring?? (Hey, whatever works for you ya know?)
:D
 
deb---i only carbed up on icecream in the morning ..the rest of the day was oats and yams..300 grams worth..but ny muscle said thats too much....he said just cycle carbs and calories from 1100-1500///i weigh 130 so that will be 100 grams of carbs 150-170 grams of protein and 40 grams of fat...and on low calorie days i will take out the carbs from oatmeal and replace with vegiies and lower my fat intake a bit to 30 grams...sound ok? is that a carb up ? 150 grams of carbs instead of 500?
 
Missy - did NYM tell you to refeed? No, right? So don't. Do what NYM tells you to - and I think he said 1200 - 1600, not 1100 - 1500, unless he said something different in PM to you.

We're still waiting for those exercises, sets, reps and weights. EXACTLY. We don't want to hear "I do weights on Mon, etc etc"

We want to see, for example:

Mon: back & bi's
deadlifts 3x8x100 (first number is sets, 2nd is reps, 3rd is weight)
lat pulldowns 3x10x30
etc, etc.

Please write your WHOLE program like this. Losing fat and gaining muscle requires a TOTAL approach. Diet and training.

And I'm still waiting for you to answer my question about your abs. Did it feel flat and hard or lumpy/bumpy and hard under your stomach fat?
 
missyd143 said:
deb---i only carbed up on icecream in the morning ..the rest of the day was oats and yams..300 grams worth..but ny muscle said thats too much....he said just cycle carbs and calories from 1100-1500///i weigh 130 so that will be 100 grams of carbs 150-170 grams of protein and 40 grams of fat...and on low calorie days i will take out the carbs from oatmeal and replace with vegiies and lower my fat intake a bit to 30 grams...sound ok? is that a carb up ? 150 grams of carbs instead of 500?
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NO BABE LIKE I SAID AROUND 250GMS OF CARBS WHEN U "REFEED" WHICH ISNT VERY OFTEN
 
Debu said:
NYMuscle - can you post the exact diet that you might have pm'd her.
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I would but 1st off its not rocket science, missy is gathering info from too many people and her diet is out of whack because of that...i just gave her a basic simple plan that probably many of you do, i want her to stay on this diet and stick to it, with no variations, and then if need be i will get into some more "tricky" diets that are used to really get you shredded when you have exhausted all other means.


besides, everyone on here has their own opinion and im sure ill get shit like "whyd you recomend this" or "why is she eating that" etc etc
 
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Debu said:
NYMuscle - can you post the exact diet that you might have pm'd her.
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It seems to me that many members could benefit from your plan for missy.
I think there are more people lurking afraid to ask basic questions about their diets. Look what happened to missy, she was given too many different ideas and it made all of this more confusing.
I hope you will reconsider. :)
 
I'm just trying to that "eye" of what to do for this kind of person with this kind of goal, etc...plus the more options I have to review for myself the longer I can procrastinate on dieting!:D

I would like to hear the reasoning of why you would recommend x, y, z, ....
 
And in other news, OHMIFREAKINGAWD, Missy, you such a cutie patootie. I hope that your new diet and training regimen goes well and gets you those ripped abs. Just wanted to let you know that you are quite beautiful already. :) Need a mantra or something? How 'bout "NYMuscle made me do it?" :p
 
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MS and NYM you guys are FAR BETTER PEOPLE than me....

I guess with all of the other nensense in the world (both in real life and the boards) I have developed a thick skin and am less patient....

I hope Missy realizes HOW LUCKY SHE IS to have you two in her corner. I give her two weeks tops (and that is at the far end of an extremely generous estimate) and you guys will go running from the keyboard screaming obscenities.....

PROVE ME WRONG MISSY - I DARE YOU.

I'll hold my tongue (or fingers as it were tee-hee) until either

A) I see some FOR REAL progress pics.

or

B) BOTH MS and NYM send up the white flag.


GOOD LUCK MS and NYM - YOU TWO ARE GOING TO NEED IT!
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Hey, guess who is now looking for a new diet over on the Diet Discussion board? It looks like someone around here is entitled to a freebie "I told you so!"


B-Mac
 
LOL!

Well, I DID say I had a feeling I'd have to eat my words. Now that we've had the fair hearing, Spatts, B'mom, others - I admit defeat - let the games begin!
 
OUCH... I REALLY hate that I was right! (I am not being sarcastic AT ALL.) I was sincerely hoping that with my "challenge" that would give her the "I'm gonna SHOW YOU" attitude and perhaps would motivate her to stick to something for longer than 2 days...
 
89 replies?! YIKES! This girl is causing a stir in this place. She has been brain washed for too many years by the media, and general public, just like thousands of others. She seems pretty far out there, and who knows if she can be saved by the Goddes Squat, and King Deadlift.....
 
LOL, welcome to the world of Missyd.

I'm relatively new to this place, but I've noticed missyd and her relentless quest for a diet that works. No matter how clear or how much time you spend giving her advice, it'll just go in one ear, and out the other.

Anyhow, I'm not convinced she's a real person and I think she's just fucking with us. She's just to unreal to be legit, so be warned.

By the way, if that is really her picture, she's a hottie! A VERY confused hottie, but a hottie nonethelss.
 
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