Grippers

[Tblock1]

I have wanted to get some Captain of Crush grippers for a while and am finally going to be ordering them, but don't know which ones to get. I want to get 2, one that I can get a decent workout with now and another that will be a challenge to close and will take a couple of months before I can close it.

Captains of Crush Hand Grippers - the gold standard of hand grippers from IronMind

I have a pretty strong grip and decent forearms, as I rock climb so that helps the grip. My best deadlift is only 375 @190 pounds but I could probably pull a little more, and my grip was fine. So which ones should I get? Thanks!!!

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[Scotsman]

I'd suggest getting the trainer and the #1.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Tblock1]

I'd suggest getting the trainer and the #1.

Cheers,
Scotsman

Thanks dude! Do you think I will be able to close the #1?

 

[Scotsman]

Thanks dude! Do you think I will be able to close the #1?

Unsure, crushing grip is very different than holding grip. I can pick up over 800 lbs out of the rack without straps and can't close the #3, but I can do the #2 for 10 reps easy.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[musketeer]

No2 really is pretty tough. If your grip is strong, you'll probably be able to do a No1, so I think they do a 1.5 now so go for that.

 

[Scotsman]

True there are half steps now (1.5,2.5,3.5).

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[kx250rider]

I might get into those, as I've always used a tennis ball. Problem with the tennis ball, is that it's non-linear; and doesn't give you a good, full range of motion. They should invent something, if there isn't already such a thing, that will let you have the same resistance all the way from open-fist to closed-fist.

Just fyi; I use lifting hooks for deadlifts and dumbell shrugs. Without them, my hands and grip are nowhere near strong enough to get a good workout with shrugs (120 lb hex dumbells). My grip craps out after about the 5th rep, and feel nothing in the traps yet. Lifting hooks make it so I can take my traps to exhaustion. Right now, I have a hariline fracture in my left wrist, which makes the lifting hooks a must for anything that "pulls" on the wrist. I'm not supposed to work out at all, but I'm addicted and flat-out disobeyed the order. I even took the splint off and went out on my dirt bike last weekend, and will today too. (I hope Dr. Fischmann isn't an EF member or is reading this!!!!)

I don't know 100% sure how that fracture started, but I suspect it was forearm wrist curls which I did a month ago. I felt something like an electric shock, and it hurt later... Then the next day, I leaned on a shelf in the garage suddenly to catch a fall after I tripped, and CRUNCH! My wrist swelled up black & blue that night. It's a hairline fracture so small that it doesn't even really show up on an X-ray, but the doctor is pretty sure that's what it is, as nothing else is wrong on exam. He says it's common in fighters, motocross/skateboard/BMX riders. He threatened me that if I make it worse, I'll have to get a 5 inch bolt through the front of my thumb, and out the side of my wrist for 6 weeks.

The reason I'm boring you with all that, is that Dr. Fischmann also said that we can get "too muscular in the wrist and forearm" for our bones to handle, making it possible to break your own bones with your own flexion.

Charles

 

[oso0960]

IMO I would go with the 1 and 2. I have the T,1,2,3,4 and some Beef Builders. When I bought them I could almost close the 1. After a couple of months I crushed the 2. Only thing I did on them was Overcrushes and Negatives

 

[ExtraMile]

Im also thinking of getting some but they are pretty expensive for saying you only get 1 you dont get the pair. Im not sure whether to get the #1 or #1.5...

 

[musketeer]

EM - I'm guessing the No1 will be a good place to start.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I don't have the CoC grippers but I have the Heavy Grips.

I just recently closed the gripper #5 - 300 lbs of pressure per square inch.

I still have the #6 - 350 - that's the one that Magnus closes 2 times - yes, world's strongest man

I have retarded strength in my hands....I don't have amazing grip when lifting, it's decent but nothing awesome, but I have a crushing grip and I break most peoples' hands if i press hard enough and yes they do help

Here's a link for you:

Heavy Grip Handgrippers- Hand Grippers, grippers, handgripper, wrist, strength

 

[musketeer]

I have the HG250 and could do 10 reps every time I tried (after month) not sure about the HG300 as I don't own it but I have the COC2 and it's considerably tougher - like my best with that is a double. COC have a much more linear resistance (equal throughout) and a more quality feel. My grip was always shit until I stopped using straps and got a gripper. I keep the COC2 on my desk and when colleagues come over they usually pick it up and have a go - nobody ever comes close!

 

[Tblock1]

I might get into those, as I've always used a tennis ball. Problem with the tennis ball, is that it's non-linear; and doesn't give you a good, full range of motion. They should invent something, if there isn't already such a thing, that will let you have the same resistance all the way from open-fist to closed-fist.

Just fyi; I use lifting hooks for deadlifts and dumbell shrugs. Without them, my hands and grip are nowhere near strong enough to get a good workout with shrugs (120 lb hex dumbells). My grip craps out after about the 5th rep, and feel nothing in the traps yet. Lifting hooks make it so I can take my traps to exhaustion. Right now, I have a hariline fracture in my left wrist, which makes the lifting hooks a must for anything that "pulls" on the wrist. I'm not supposed to work out at all, but I'm addicted and flat-out disobeyed the order. I even took the splint off and went out on my dirt bike last weekend, and will today too. (I hope Dr. Fischmann isn't an EF member or is reading this!!!!)

I don't know 100% sure how that fracture started, but I suspect it was forearm wrist curls which I did a month ago. I felt something like an electric shock, and it hurt later... Then the next day, I leaned on a shelf in the garage suddenly to catch a fall after I tripped, and CRUNCH! My wrist swelled up black & blue that night. It's a hairline fracture so small that it doesn't even really show up on an X-ray, but the doctor is pretty sure that's what it is, as nothing else is wrong on exam. He says it's common in fighters, motocross/skateboard/BMX riders. He threatened me that if I make it worse, I'll have to get a 5 inch bolt through the front of my thumb, and out the side of my wrist for 6 weeks.

The reason I'm boring you with all that, is that Dr. Fischmann also said that we can get "too muscular in the wrist and forearm" for our bones to handle, making it possible to break your own bones with your own flexion.

Charles

Shit that is gnarly about breaking your own bones with flexion!!! Hope you heal quick

 

[the.gladiator1987]

I need some of these, my grip SUCKS

 

[ExtraMile]

so do people thing CoC is really that much better than HG? or are they pretty much the same? I wouldnt know which to get: CoC trainer (100lbs of resistance), No1 CoC (140lbs of resistance) or HG1 which is also 100lbs resistance...

 

[future]

You know you can always work on doing Olympic style deads, static holds and pinch plate work and save some money?

 

[ExtraMile]

You know you can always work on doing Olympic style deads, static holds and pinch plate work and save some money?

Thing is alot of people say u can't beat grippers for developing a hard crush grip.

By Olympic deads do u mean hook grip deads or snatch grip deads?

 

[the_alcatraz]

I have the HG250 and could do 10 reps every time I tried (after month) not sure about the HG300 as I don't own it but I have the COC2 and it's considerably tougher - like my best with that is a double. COC have a much more linear resistance (equal throughout) and a more quality feel. My grip was always shit until I stopped using straps and got a gripper. I keep the COC2 on my desk and when colleagues come over they usually pick it up and have a go - nobody ever comes close!

I strongly feel you're exaggerating bro

I have crushed big ass hands in under 5 secs and I can't even close the 350 lbs one from Heavy Grips

 

[musketeer]

I strongly feel you're exaggerating bro

I have crushed big ass hands in under 5 secs and I can't even close the 350 lbs one from Heavy Grips

I don't know about crushing big hands, just that I own both brands and that's how they stack up for me.

The No3 COC is so hard I can't hardly move it. Even Mark Felix from WSM had to practice for a week before he could do an "unofficial" No3 close.

I'd also say that because the HG are cheaper,they are probably less standardised meaning that there is probably a fair difference between different grippers of the same rating.

 

[kx250rider]

Shit that is gnarly about breaking your own bones with flexion!!! Hope you heal quick

LOL... I'm sure in my case I didn't do that from lifting alone; I wish I was that strong. Doc just warned me that it's possible, and he's seen in in serious lifters. I think I probably had a weak spot from other MX crashes, and stuff. So the lifting probably weakened it more, then catching myself on the metal shelf split it all the way to a hairline fracture.

I do have a buddy who tore his bicep tendon completely off his arm bone, by showing off on the preacher bench (while drunk)... The doctor said that's actually harder to do than to break a bone while lifting. Feet & hands especially subject to breakage from stress/lifting.

Charles

 

[the_alcatraz]

I don't know about crushing big hands, just that I own both brands and that's how they stack up for me.

The No3 COC is so hard I can't hardly move it. Even Mark Felix from WSM had to practice for a week before he could do an "unofficial" No3 close.

I'd also say that because the HG are cheaper,they are probably less standardised meaning that there is probably a fair difference between different grippers of the same rating.

I see what you're saying.

Either way, I love my heavy grips...and enjoy the feeling of having so much power in my hands

 

[musketeer]

Just to be clear Alc - I wasn't trying to say my grip is stronger or anything like that, I'm sure it isn't!

Anyhow I'd recommend you get 'ahold' of a COC 2.5 and see how you like it!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Just to be clear Alc - I wasn't trying to say my grip is stronger or anything like that, I'm sure it isn't!

Anyhow I'd recommend you get 'ahold' of a COC 2.5 and see how you like it!

haha it's all good bro, I don't really compare myself to anyone...I compete and try to beat myself ONLY

not too sure I would spend the extra money to pick one up...my grippers get the job done

 

[Tblock1]

So if I got the Coc #1 and #2, I could work on closing the number one for like 10 reps, then work toward closing the #2 eventually. I think I'm going to go with that combo.

 

[Tblock1]

I just ordered the 100 pound and 200 pound heavy grips. I wanted to order the captains of crush ones but they ended up being $54 for 2 with shipping and tax, while I got the heavy grippers for $35 shipped. Thanks for all the advice guys!

 

[the_alcatraz]

I just ordered the 100 pound and 200 pound heavy grips. I wanted to order the captains of crush ones but they ended up being $54 for 2 with shipping and tax, while I got the heavy grippers for $35 shipped. Thanks for all the advice guys!

Anything under 250 lbs for HG is easy IMO

 

[ExtraMile]

i bought the 150lb heavy grip yesterday, it should be here tomorrow or saturday

 

[Tblock1]

Just an update: Somehow I ended up with 2 150lb heavy grips instead of the 200 and the 150. The 150 turned out the be really easy, and once I warmed up right after my workout I closed it for 20 full reps(handles touching each time) on both arms, although my left arm was harder than my right. So if I got the 250 would I be able to close it for one rep? Thanks!

 

[the_alcatraz]

Just an update: Somehow I ended up with 2 150lb heavy grips instead of the 200 and the 150. The 150 turned out the be really easy, and once I warmed up right after my workout I closed it for 20 full reps(handles touching each time) on both arms, although my left arm was harder than my right. So if I got the 250 would I be able to close it for one rep? Thanks!

I close the 250 lbs grip a couple of reps easy but I can only close the 300 lb gripper halfway, so I'm not too sure...