Thanks Kiloamp, that's kinda what I was thinking. CoolColJ, I did not specify for non-o-lifters, which I should have. I'm fully aware of the weight categories in the olympics. In amatuer strongman middleweight is 200-250, I'm not an olympic lifter nor could I be. Even at 240 I couldn't compete with those guys. low 400's on the clean and jerk is out of my range. Right now my short term goals are 235 on the snatch, and 335-340 on the clean. Its just that I never see any semi descent lifts posted, so I'm not sure what is good for someone sorta big and athletic who isn't a trained o-lifter.