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Great Leg Night!

lucidblue

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I had an awesome leg workout. Didn't have PRs or anything, but I'm already sore as hell (it usually takes 2 days) and I just really pushed myself. Did squats again for the first time in quite awhile. Hopefully, my hip won't start to hurt again.;)
 
Gotta love a good leg day. I have good upper body days, but nothing beats a good lower body day...I had one yesterday...they're still hurting...gotta love it!;)
 
Sounds great. What are you doing for those beautiful hips???

B True
 
I can fix your hip - no BS, unless its congenital deformity or traumatic damage to the joint.

just put up some info - Currently preventing an MD from having hip replacement surgery.

S
 
Yes, unfortunately the medical field as a whole is grossly misinformed about musculo-skeletal pain.

I have fixed every injury I've had with either trigger point, myofascial release, or active release therapy.
 
supreme said:
I can fix your hip - no BS, unless its congenital deformity or traumatic damage to the joint.

just put up some info - Currently preventing an MD from having hip replacement surgery.

S

It hasn't been bothering me lately, but then again I haven't been squatting for a month or more. My hip started bothering me out of the blue. I think it might be because I stopped stretching my IT band. I think this may have been helping my hip in some way... not just my knee, which is why I do it.

I go this popping feeling in my hip when I would walk and it would hurt when that happened. Only other time this happened to me was several years ago when I used to do Tae Bo (so I stopped doing Tae Bo).
 
Scotsman said:
Nicely done. Plus anything that makes me think of your legs or hips is a great thing.

CHeers,
Scotsman

LOL, Lucid box squat can help hip tremedously, also light stretching might prevent any problems as well
 
box squats are a great exercise. I thought they were crap until my strength coach talked me into trying them.
 
supreme said:
I can fix your hip - no BS, unless its congenital deformity or traumatic damage to the joint.

just put up some info - Currently preventing an MD from having hip replacement surgery.

S

Bump for more info...
 
lucid, I think you should try some box squats. Is there any way to do them in your gym? If there are no boxes, aerobix steps make a good substitute.

They are a tremendous exercise.
 
how is your hip flexor flexibility?

ive felt alot of popping in the hip/ inguinal fold. chalked it up to my tight hip flexors. stretched em out as well as did some extra glute work and they are fine.

do you do leg lifts, full situps etc. things heavily involving hip flexors?
 
bignate73 said:
how is your hip flexor flexibility?

ive felt alot of popping in the hip/ inguinal fold. chalked it up to my tight hip flexors. stretched em out as well as did some extra glute work and they are fine.

do you do leg lifts, full situps etc. things heavily involving hip flexors?

That's some great info as well. Possibly overlooked ...
 
There are boxes at my gym. I am going to add them in when I change my workout (still not sure what I want my new routine to be :confused: ). I do stretch my hip flexors quite a bit. I don't do leg lifts or full sit ups. I thought SLDL and good mornings would hit my hips...

I just went exrx.net and looked up hip flexor exercises. Says decline sit ups could work too. Funny thing is I can barely do decline sit ups. Maybe the hip flexor is part of my weakness??
 
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Boardin087 said:
can u use a bench for box squats?

From my experience, they're much too high. And lucid is like 5'4 or something.

Originally posted by lucidBlue Maybe the hip flexor is part of my weakness??

It's possible. Start adding bignate's suggestions in. (Leg lifts, FULL ROM sit ups, etc. Spread eagle sit ups are good too.)
 
Sorry ,

I thought you had everything under control.

I would look into fixing the hip before box squats - they are great but if you have any imbalances you are just loading faulty joints and then trying to accelerate the load.

Start with what Bignate said - address hip flexor tightness - you must differentiate between the 1 & 2 joint hip flexors. Also what is the alignment of your pelvis?? Your squat should always start in neutral.

You can also assess the tightness of your deep extrnal rotators, for if they are tight they pull the head of the femur out of alignment. This can cause pain in the socket for the head of the femur starts to grind against the acetabulum.

I will work up something now that I know you stil need some help.

A good place to get starting info is a series of articles - "back to basics" - I foind these courtesy of Bignate.

http://www.yorkbarbell.com/sandh.html

Issues 1 -4 have the series of articles - "back to basics" read these!! they are excellent and will answer many questions.

S:google:
 
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Supreme... thanks for your help. I will check out that site. Deep external rotators may be the issue. I do feel pain in the socket.
 
Reading over the post you mentioned IT band tightness, It may not actually be the IT band but the tensor fascia latte (TFL) The TFL is 2 joint hip flexor that can get over recrutied when the other larger hip flexors are over worked. This can pull the IT band tight and cause deviations of the hip and knee. If you can have someone perform Ober's test it will tell you the status of the TFL - i.e normal or tight. a bi-lateral tightness results in an anterior pelvic tilt. If its unilateral you will have tightness in the hip abductors on the tight side and a lateral pelvic tilt. a lateral tilt can cause a rotational deviation during squats and result in hip and /or back pain.

We need to narrow the probable cause down: I.e tight hip flexors, tight or weak external rotators, hamstring imbalance etc.

S :supercool
 
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Supreme. The "Back to Basics" articles you recommended are great! I think there it should be part of the training methods sticky. The articles are really helpful.

I may have had an Ober's test done when I went to my orthopeadic doc for knee problems. That is where I found out about my IT band tightness. I looked up the Ober's test to see what it was and I think I remember him doing that, but not positive...

This could help explain my knee problems and IT band issues. I also had problems for awhile with my squats because of pain I felt in my tailbone and lower back... this sounds like it may all go together.
 
Well youhave to thank Bignate fo the articles - he told me where to find them.

Pain in the low back when squatting is usually do to some form of disc problem where if the lumbar spine flexes forward the nucleus of the disc is pushed posteriorly thus wearing out that section of the annular ring allowing the nucleus to push against the posterior longitudinal ligamnet and associated nerves.

You should check for hamstring tightness for tght hams pull the pelvis into a posterior rotation increasing spinal flexion and thus the posterior migration of the disc. If you have tight hams you need to stretch them whle holding the pelvis in an anterior rotation to increase spinal extension allowiing the nucleus to travel toward the center of the annular ring. you can then follw this with spinal extension exercise like the McKenzie extension etc.

Keep me updated and I will try to post more info! If your ever in town give me a shout and I'll see what I can do

S :supercool
 
when i have pain in my lower back, it is my QLs and spinal erectors. honestly. when i pull conventional, i get them something fierce. i switched to sumo and its nearly gone. skwat form may also be an issue. torso lean etc.
 
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