Got my labs back from Doctor!

[dopename]

Got my labs back from Doctor! NOT GOOD!!

My doc tested my DHEA and Test this week and I got the results today!

I'm 29 years old.

Test: 207

DHEA: 152

He gave me a cream with Test and DHEA in it. Test 100MG DHEA 50MG daily.

I thought I was making decent progress on my lifting, but I suppose this is really gonna help out huh?

Any suggestions? These numbers are pretty damn low aren't they?

 

[njmuscleguy]

You do realize that he's putting you on an HRT program, right? did he talk to you about that at all? What it entails, what the consequences are?

Had you cycled at all before having this bloodwork done? If not, then it may well be that you're hypogonadal (low natural test) and will likely have to be on test supplementation for life.

 

[dopename]

You do realize that he's putting you on an HRT program, right? did he talk to you about that at all? What it entails, what the consequences are?

Had you cycled at all before having this bloodwork done? If not, then it may well be that you're hypogonadal (low natural test) and will likely have to be on test supplementation for life.

Yeah I know it's replacement therapy but what else can I do?

and I have never cycled before.

 

[njmuscleguy]

well, if you're legitimately low on test, then not a whole lot else you can do... you can waste time and money on test-boosters, but in the end, they won't bring you up into "normal range" for your age...

just read up on HRT... ask questions... you'll likely get tested every 3 months to see how your levels are doing... you're bound to feel better and your workouts will improve as well....better quality of life all-around

 

[galaxy]

Forget the DHEA part of it. Thats crap. Im thinking that the cream will get you up in the 400 range? But thats just a guestimate.

How are you feeling? How is libido and sex drive?

Mine still sucked at the mid level range and I bumped up my trt to get to the higher level range and it really still aint that great. Thats why sometimes its good to go by feel. I mean 1200 for a reading isnt gonna fly but a Doc may ok around 900 if thats what it takes to make you feel good.

Myself Im hoping to get 200mgs enanthate a week prescribed.

 

[slamminshaun]

I was at a Test level of 340 and was able to get 200mg prescribed weekly for 10 weeks to start....all depends on where you go. Anyone have a "guess" on where you think this will put my levels?

 

[galaxy]

Im gonna say 950-1000

 

[slamminshaun]

Im gonna say 950-1000

Interesting....thanks for the estimate. I just started on Tuesday....in 3 weeks, do you think I'm gonna be a maniac in the gym or will I just feel good?

 

[sdever]

my first blood work show my test at 167 i'm 55 years old started on hrt of .8 cc test c after 8 weeks second blood work came back test at 820 he bump me to .5 cc twice a week just took third blood work this week i will let you know results

 

[dopename]

Forget the DHEA part of it. Thats crap. Im thinking that the cream will get you up in the 400 range? But thats just a guestimate.

How are you feeling? How is libido and sex drive?

Mine still sucked at the mid level range and I bumped up my trt to get to the higher level range and it really still aint that great. Thats why sometimes its good to go by feel. I mean 1200 for a reading isnt gonna fly but a Doc may ok around 900 if thats what it takes to make you feel good.

Myself Im hoping to get 200mgs enanthate a week prescribed.

The doctor said he believes in higher test levels. He said he would like to get it at least in the 800 range. Maybe he just wants to take it slow at first?

I have been feeling kinda damn lazy lately. As for libido and sex drive? It's been in the toilet for a while. It really takes cycles though. Sometimes it great but most of the time it's non existent.

I just rubbed my first dose. When would I be able to feel anything, as for my mood that is?

 

[galaxy]

my first blood work show my test at 167 i'm 55 years old started on hrt of .8 cc testosterone cypionate after 8 weeks second blood work came back test at 820 he bump me to .5 cc twice a week just took third blood work this week i will let you know results

I'll guestimate 868

 

[njmuscleguy]

Forget the DHEA part of it. Thats crap. Im thinking that the cream will get you up in the 400 range? But thats just a guestimate.

How are you feeling? How is libido and sex drive?

Mine still sucked at the mid level range and I bumped up my trt to get to the higher level range and it really still aint that great. Thats why sometimes its good to go by feel. I mean 1200 for a reading isnt gonna fly but a Doc may ok around 900 if thats what it takes to make you feel good.

Myself Im hoping to get 200mgs enanthate a week prescribed.

Sometimes you can do a decent amount of test for HRT and get a high enough reading and *still* not feel like you should... test alone isn't always the only part of the equation... that's where the DHEA comes in... pregnenolone is also prescribed sometimes... I'm guessing you've tried oral DHEA? if so, that's very poorly bioavailable, which is why you thought it was crap...if you can get it in a more bioavailable form (transdermal, for example), you'd definitely feel it

 

[extremefighter]

Bro your way too young to be on HRT. Get on a good PCT program and your test can come back. DO NOT go on HRT without giving a few rounds of PCT a try.

peace

 

[dopename]

Bro your way too young to be on HRT. Get on a good PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - program and your test can come back. DO NOT go on HRT without giving a few rounds of PCT a try.

peace

That's the thing, my test has never been "UP". I had it tested a few years ago (5 years to be exact) and it was low then.

Would a few rounds of PCT kick start everything?

dopeNAME

 

[falcyou]

Extreme- what such a hard stance against HRT? He had never cycled before, so it's just that his levels are low. You can still have kids on HRT so long as you run CLOMID, so not sure why he would avoid it all costs.

Galaxy - doc gave me 200mg of Test CYP, he said Cyp is the only one covered with insurance and not enanthate or prop

 

[Tatyana]

The doctor said he believes in higher test levels. He said he would like to get it at least in the 800 range. Maybe he just wants to take it slow at first?

I have been feeling kinda damn lazy lately. As for libido and sex drive? It's been in the toilet for a while. It really takes cycles though. Sometimes it great but most of the time it's non existent.

I just rubbed my first dose. When would I be able to feel anything, as for my mood that is?

Putting your levels mid-point is a much better idea than just going for the high levels.

Our bodies don't respond well to drastic changes, we have reactions to this.

I do think that some of the lads have a point. You are young.

How many times have your test levels checked out low?

Or have you had symptoms of low test levels?

The whole TRT/HRT thing for men is quite new, I think they are still sorting things out.

Look at birthcontrol pills and HRT for women, it has been around ages but all sorts of papers come out all the time saying it is good for this, bad for that.

It will ultimately be your choice, but you may have to take test the rest of your life.


You will not feel one application of testosterone. It will take awhile for your body to respond to the drug.

 

[dopename]

I already have all the kids the I'm gonna have.( 1 beautiful daughter) I have already had a vasectomy.

I have tested twice for test and both times they were low. (over 5 years)

As for symptoms, I have always had a low sex drive and often have difficulty keeping an erection. Not much morning wood.

Whats so bad about HRT if I am having no kids and have always have had low test? What's the worst thing that could happen? I quit the HRT and I return back to low test/DHEA levels?

Oh and BTW, I believe I had a slight BUZZED feeling this morning after my application and a CRAZY appetites this afternoon!! I was starving!!!

Is this just in my head?

 

[Tatyana]

I already have all the kids the I'm gonna have.( 1 beautiful daughter) I have already had a vasectomy.

I have tested twice for test and both times they were low. (over 5 years)

As for symptoms, I have always had a low sex drive and often have difficulty keeping an erection. Not much morning wood.

Whats so bad about HRT if I am having no kids and have always have had low test? What's the worst thing that could happen? I quit the HRT and I return back to low test/DHEA levels?

True.

There is nothing wrong with it at all.

It is a good idea to make sure that you are getting good medical treatment, you are well-informed about your choices.

There is an HRT section on this board as well.

 

[galaxy]

Dont know about the cream, but I can definately see an increase in libido within 3 days of injecting test enanthate.

I pay a $5 co pay for my 5ml bottle of enanthate, so my Insurance covers it. Told my doc the last thing I took was 1000mgs of Test E and 400mgs of Eq so he just continued with the test enanthate and agreed with me on the half life being better than cyp. He however, didnt agreee to EQ dosing.lol He didnt consult an endo however tho who told me not to even bother with "HCG and clomid and all that other stuff."

My balls dont shrink so I dont see the need for hcg, so I would agree with the endo.

And me, I want my libido as high as can be and still be in the normal range. For me that means the high end.

And TRT imo is the way to go. I mean, I still maintain size well and havent touched a weight in 7 months. Sure not shredded by any means, but big enough people think I work out and get pissed at me?

My my blood work is good besides my hdl but thats a hereditary thing.

 

[galaxy]

Sometimes you can do a decent amount of test for HRT and get a high enough reading and *still* not feel like you should... test alone isn't always the only part of the equation... that's where the DHEA comes in... pregnenolone is also prescribed sometimes... I'm guessing you've tried oral DHEA? if so, that's very poorly bioavailable, which is why you thought it was crap...if you can get it in a more bioavailable form (transdermal, for example), you'd definitely feel it

I'll definately have to ask him about that! Thank you for the info.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Bro your way too young to be on HRT. Get on a good PCT - post cycle therapy - program and your test can come back. DO NOT go on HRT without giving a few rounds of PCT a try.

peace

That's a lousy way to look at it, especially if the guy is truly deficient in test (naturally)... for many guys, it's just genetic...the thing to do at first is determine if one is primary or secondary hypogonadal....if it's primary, the testes aren't functioning properly and he will likely have to go on HRT for life. If it's secondary, he could try a course of clomid and H C G to try and kick-start the H P T A... if that doesn't work, then HRT is the the next course.

So you're sort of on the right track with recommending some sort of "P C T", even if technically-speaking, it's not really a true "P C T"... in either case, a guy shouldn't be denied a better quality of life by avoiding HRT, even if he's in his 20's