got my blood work back today, anyone help

[g69m2001]

so i got my blood work back and my dr. said that my kindeys show signs of damage, but the chart says the reading for my
KIDNEY WERE
BUN CREAT.
33 1.7

AND looks like the avarage should be;
bun creat.
25 1.4

show she said there high should i worry???????

also said that my blood count ,liver,cholesterol were all fine !
my LDL choloest was 131 and they gave a range of 62-130 SHOW I WORRY ABOUT THAT????

IM KINDA NERVOUS TO START ANOTHER CYCLE ? SHOULD I BE?

thanks
guys

 

[The Terminator]

If you are taking creatine then your creatinine levels will be higher than normal.

 

[HamStuffer]

What supplements are you on? The only supplement that I am aware of that will alter your kidneys is Trenbelone (Finiplex). That is not really high enough to worry about. Drink lots of water. Your cholesterol is also not that bad either. Almost all AS will increase your cholesterol. I am taking Zocor to help.

 

[g69m2001]

well i came of a deca,primo cycle,,only 150mg of deca week ,100 mg primo week, and then clomids, was off for 5 weeks and then had blood work...
i was using glutamine...i had my blood work done last friday at 8am and could not eat anything thursday night after 9pm but had my glutamine up till 7pm thurs..would the glutamine effect those levels????

thanks again

 

[ambulancechaser]

g69

What kind of results did you get with such a low dose cycle. I haven't done one yet and I am just curious.

Thanks

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

A high protein intake will cause those types of renal elevations.It's not inherently dangerous,just keep an eye on them and make sure they don't KEEP rising.You'll be fine.

 

[g69m2001]

huck,
thanks for the help......

ambulance.,
i got great results on a low dosage, but i also eat clean and cardio 30min a day 4 days a week..
i start really dieting full force on monday and gonna start a cycle of primo 200mg weeks,deca 100mg weeks along with liquidex(in 2 weeks)..should work great since i keep my carbs low around 100 g a day while dieting...

 

[wilson6]

Agree with HUCK.

My BUN and creatinine run about 33 - 36 and 1.5 - 1.7, respectively. They have for years. I take creatine and my dietary protein intake is high (400 g/day). No juice.

W6

 

[LONE_AZ]

Mine are high and have always been high. Nothing to worry about. Just have them checked again in three months. Kidney disease is very slow to develop. So if there is a problem they are not going to fail overnight. Besides those values are not that high anyway.

 

[DaMan]

Damnit, where were you guys on my "bloodwork mystery" thread???

 

[Buld0g]

A high protein intake will cause those types of renal elevations.It's not inherently dangerous,just keep an eye on them and make sure they don't KEEP rising.You'll be fine.

NOT really true huck. After reading "The Ketogenic Diet" by Lyle McDonald, it clearly references that any connections from high protien diets and kidney problems only occured in people with a history of family kidney problems, or pre existing kidney problems. That's right bro, they did studies on this.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

NOT really true huck. After reading "The Ketogenic Diet" by Lyle McDonald, it clearly references that any connections from high protien diets and kidney problems only occured in people with a history of family kidney problems, or pre existing kidney problems. That's right bro, they did studies on this.

LOL,we're not talkin about kiney PROBLEMS bro,only elevations in BUN,which IS normal,due to the kidneys extra work on processing/excreting much larger amounts of nitrogen from blood than the average person takes in.

 

[Buld0g]

Opps ... my bad huck. That's what happens when you read shit to fast

 

[g69m2001]

huck,,
im glad that some of you know alot about this stuff ,it really helps out since alot of Dr. out there dont know crap about this stuff when it comes to protein etc..they think if your blood work is high than there is a problem...
Glad to see u guys are knowledgeable about this stuff !! thats y im still learning ...

thanks again guys for the input....peace

 

[g69m2001]

wilson,
when u say no juice do u mean your a natural BB?? if not how long have u been taking roids for???

thanks

 

[Seth28]

Do you have any basline studies to compare those with. You can tell if Azotemia (high BUN/Cr) is pre-Renal (ex dehyradration, High protein diet) Renal (actual damage to the nephrons- many causes too numerous to list and explain) or Post Renal (ex Bladder outlet obstruction. By the Ratio of BUN to Cr. IF the ratio is 20:1 or Higher, it tends to be Pre-Renal (easily fixed by increasing Hydration, decrease protein intake)

But yours is around 19.4: 1 this is more indicative of kidney damage as your Dr. said. I would need to know some earlier baselines and get a more thourough History to help anymore. What I can tell you is to stay hydrated, whatch the protein intake and get some follow-up labs. Renal Failure isnt anything to be taken lightly. The Kidneys can effectivey eliminate toxins until only 10% of nephrons work. So 90% of the Kidney has to be damaged before you see a rise in BUN/Cr.

Dont get in a panic though. Compare your labs pre-use with these and if the difference is minimal, this wouldnt be concerning.

As far as your LDL goes: if your Level is 130 or more and u have a history of Hypertension, Diabetes, Coronary artery disease, smoking, etc... I would recommend something like zocor. These classes of drugs should be taken under the supervision of a physician because they can be hepatotoxic (liver toxic) so the liver enzymes need to be monitored

 

[g69m2001]

seth,
thanks for the info, damn sounds alittle concerning !
how did u become so knowlegeable at this.. i will get another copy of a test done last yr to compare them....and check back with you....

when your on do your levels run in this range ?also i had the tests done after being off for only 5 weeks after a 2 month cycle..would that of had an effect on the tests?

thanks

 

[the UNDERTAKER]

just my .02 but bump that deca to atleast 200mg you will be happier!!!

 

[g69m2001]

seth,
ok have a previous lab result from 1 1/2 yrs ago...my results:
bun creat liver
29 1.3 88 these were from 11/17/00


new one from 4/20/02,BELOW

bun creat liver
33 1.7 38 (60 being the high)


so as u can tell my liver went down ALOT...

 

[Seth28]

First, were these pre-"supplement" labs (did you take anything before) Second, what liver enzyme are you giving me (ALT,AST, ALK Phos?) If these were pre-use labs, I wouldnt be too concerned.

 

[g69m2001]

seth,
on the one from 11/17/00 i had just finished a deca,winny cycle 2-3 weeks proir so im sure the stuff was still in my system..
bun creat alt(sgpt) ast (sgot)
29 1.3 88 39


on the test done 4/20/02 i had done deca,anavar,clen(2 months) and took the blood test 4-5 weeks after coming off.

bun creat alt (sgpt) ast(sgot)
33 1.7 38 24



thanks again

 

[g69m2001]

seth,
on the one from 11/17/00 i had just finished a deca,winny cycle 2-3 weeks proir so im sure the stuff was still in my system..
bun , creat , alt(sgpt) , ast (sgot)
29 , 1.3 , 88 , 39


on the test done 4/20/02 i had done deca,anavar,clen(2 months) and took the blood test 4-5 weeks after coming off.

bun , creat , alt (sgpt) , ast(sgot)
33 , 1.7 , 38 , 24



thanks again