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jerseyrugger76
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The positive spin on the whole affair is refreshing and Nelson's points concerning product safety are well taken. That said, taking out 56 UG labs removed significant supply from the market, so prices will be on the move and headed upward. And that's not cool at all.
I think a lot of people are missing the point.
First off, I didn't say human grade, I said places where it's legit, i.e. foreign countries.
You may not want the government telling you what you can and can not do, but that's what they're doing. You can either accept it and find alternatives or bitch about it to no avail.
People must stop squaking because this whole thing makes stuff cheap gear tougher to find. Boo fucking hoo. If things kept going the way they were going there would have been more crappy labs, more underdosed products, more illness from contaminated gear.
AND ANOTHER THING
As it stood, I'd say at least half of these labs didn't even give you what you bought!!!
Most everything is a different dosage of either test or Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - or whatever is cheaper. But so many guys don't give a shit because "at least it's working". Well, that's a dumb ass response. People should be sure of what they're putting in their bodies.
It was time to clean house. And like it or not, it's been cleaned.
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First off, I didn't say human grade, I said places where it's legit, i.e. foreign countries.
You may not want the government telling you what you can and can not do, but that's what they're doing. You can either accept it and find alternatives or bitch about it to no avail.
People must stop squaking because this whole thing makes stuff cheap gear tougher to find. Boo fucking hoo. If things kept going the way they were going there would have been more crappy labs, more underdosed products, more illness from contaminated gear.
AND ANOTHER THING
As it stood, I'd say at least half of these labs didn't even give you what you bought!!!
Most everything is a different dosage of either test or Finaplix - trenbolone acetate - or whatever is cheaper. But so many guys don't give a shit because "at least it's working". Well, that's a dumb ass response. People should be sure of what they're putting in their bodies.
It was time to clean house. And like it or not, it's been cleaned.
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In my opinion the whole UG lab scene got out of control. I have posted many times about how many class a good ''lab'' which seemed to be
Do they answer mails quickly
Does the person at the other end of the e-mail seem ''nice''
Do they have nice labels
Do they send it to me quickly
If it was yes to these 4 questions then that was in the main that the supplier was good and based on that evidence people would inject themselevs with what turned up.
Never was the knowledge of the chemist (if they had one) questioned, never was the quality control considered but every now and again some lab reports were done and if it proved bunk never mind because next time they sent ''extras'' --- great!
Over the years i have invested a lot of time and money into my body and so will not take short cuts with what if any product i choose to inject and really can not understand thiose that do. If you can not afford to pay then don't play but do not risk your health more than you are.
If anything this has been a clensing operation that in someways was required. I do not like to see anyone go to jail but they all ran the risk and they all reaped the benefits whilst operational.
In someways i think all this was necessary but like anything it means it has raised profile and will have negative effects in terms of supply and cost but there were too many board openly advertising illegal substances for it to continue.
We all slate the boards that are open but even here at Elite there is source posting so nothing is whiter than white
Wrongun!
Do they answer mails quickly
Does the person at the other end of the e-mail seem ''nice''
Do they have nice labels
Do they send it to me quickly
If it was yes to these 4 questions then that was in the main that the supplier was good and based on that evidence people would inject themselevs with what turned up.
Never was the knowledge of the chemist (if they had one) questioned, never was the quality control considered but every now and again some lab reports were done and if it proved bunk never mind because next time they sent ''extras'' --- great!
Over the years i have invested a lot of time and money into my body and so will not take short cuts with what if any product i choose to inject and really can not understand thiose that do. If you can not afford to pay then don't play but do not risk your health more than you are.
If anything this has been a clensing operation that in someways was required. I do not like to see anyone go to jail but they all ran the risk and they all reaped the benefits whilst operational.
In someways i think all this was necessary but like anything it means it has raised profile and will have negative effects in terms of supply and cost but there were too many board openly advertising illegal substances for it to continue.
We all slate the boards that are open but even here at Elite there is source posting so nothing is whiter than white
Wrongun!
Wrongun said:
Dead on correct.
BigGuyPHX
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Nelson Montana said:And in the end, you're probably better off than buying shit from some kid brewing it up in his kitchen sink -- who once the cops start to lean on him will give out your name and address faster than you'd drop your pants if Paris Hilton told you said she needed to suck some shank NOW.
It's all good.
What the fuck Nelson???
You're better than that...
Leave Paris Hilton out of it!
nelson is spot on. i admit i used ug labs as well as vet labs putting gains ahead of where its being made and how it may effect me later. fact is there is no telling what i placed in my body and thats scary in its own right. truly glad i stopped competing and taking bodybuilding so seroius.
sweatandscience
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Good points made in your post.
However, since the whole Barry Bonds thing came about, my sister in law says that there are more guys in her high school trying to get roids because, as the media would have you believe, it's the only reason he's such a good ballplayer.
I can understand we have to take some hits now and then, but at the end of the day, all of this steriods talk and craziness in the media has made a lot of young people curious about steroids. That does bother me.
However, since the whole Barry Bonds thing came about, my sister in law says that there are more guys in her high school trying to get roids because, as the media would have you believe, it's the only reason he's such a good ballplayer.
I can understand we have to take some hits now and then, but at the end of the day, all of this steriods talk and craziness in the media has made a lot of young people curious about steroids. That does bother me.
sweatandscience
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Damn, this has me concerned. I have what I think is a reliable provider, but I did notice that I get tren cough from their deca. How common is this?Nelson Montana said:
Harleymarleybone
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Nelson Montana said:
Of course, that's what they are doing, but I don't think it is a good thing as you seem to. I think it would be a good thing if the UGL's stayed open, and think what happened was very unfortunate. I think the risks of contaminated gear were pretty low, and I always had good results. The free market and feedback loop on quality that the boards provided minimized the risks for those who knew what they were doing.
Probably I'll do both - I'll bitch about it and find alternatives.
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