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Good place to get ECA ?

The ECA from Universal is a good one, but I'm not sure if they still put the ephedrine in it or not. Just google Universal animal cuts and you'll find it, it's everywhere.
 
tommboy said:
that doesnt even have ephedra in it? wtf?
but it dose have a new brake threw product
Synephrine HCl
Synephrine HCl is an alkaloid extract of bitter orange (Citrus x aurantium L.) peels. Synephrine is similar structurally to ephedrine, and like ephedrine it acts as an adrenergic (adrenaline-like) stimulant. Even so, synephrine is not as potent as ephedrine and is found, at least by some studies, to be much less active in the central nervous system. Further synephrine has not been demonstrated to produce (at least in oral doses) the severe side-effects and toxicity of ephedrine. Synephrine still appears to act upon most adrenergic receptors, including the alpha-1 receptors which can constrict blood vessels causing increased blood pressure, and to a lesser degree the beta receptors, which can increase heart rate and contractility. It appears that synephrine' primary action, though, is through activation of the beta-3 adrenergic receptors that are found on fat cells, thus promoting weight loss by breakdown of fat. Synephrine also should not be confused with neosynephrine (phenylephrine), a drug often used as a nasal decongestant.


it works bro.better on the system then ephedra by fare and works better if you ask me.
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
OKAY, that's fucking BS right there. Synephrine is an agonist for a different receptor than ephedrine is. It has a much more negative effect on your blood pressure than ephedrine does.

If it didnt, then why did all products have ephedra in them until the ban happened?

Here's someone explaining it better: http://www.philkaplan.com/thefitnesstruth/synephrine.htm

Anyone wanting to take an ECA stack needs a good understanding of alpha vs. beta agonists and the different receptors within each group.
so you want to go to battle bro...I got reports to.lets have some fun then.you know I will get you.
 
needtogetaas said:
so you want to go to battle bro...I got reports to.lets have some fun then.you know I will get you.
I dont want to go to battle, I want people3 to have information and make their own choices. I think your original assertion that synephrine based products are better is not a good bit of information to put out there, and I cited why.

There's a reason synephrine wasnt used originally.
 
I'm with Juiced on this one -- I've never heard anyone put synephrine over ephedrine.

And synephrine's not new or break-through. It's been around for a long time... I seem to remember it being pushed around the turn of the century when ephedrine was at it's peak and gaining in popularity.



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