Going to jail on Tues....

[Fonz]

Fonz, explain this abstract to me in plain english:

Abstract: unassigned Both enantiomers of 3,4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) competitively inhibited 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) catabolism by rat brain MAO-A. A mixed type of inhibition by MDMA was observed for phenethylamine catabolism by MAO-B for both optical antipodes. When the MAO inhibitory properties of fenfluramine (FEN) and fluoxetine (FLUOX) were compared with those of MDMA, the rank order potency of these drugs was MDMA>FLUOX>FEN for MAO-A inhibition and FLUOX>MDMA>FEN for MAO-B inhibition. MDMA produced a preferential inhibition of MAO-A, which should increase extracellular 5-HT; this may explain its high toxicity potential. FLUOX showed an inhibition of MAO-B, which may increase the intracellular content of 5-HT and may contribute to its therapeutic potential. FEN appears to be a poor inhibitor of both MAO-A and MAO-B.

This is from a related study of effect of Prozac on E.

But in anycase, if ALA is neuroprotector, then you agree that, with enough knowledge, and responsibility, a person could use E relatively safely.

Not taking your Prozac and your ALA while on E, i think is like not taking you ALA or Milk Thistle when your running ABombs.

Im sure heavy, long term Anadrol use, without proper supplementation can be as bad in the long run as consistant and irresposible E use. Thats my bottom line.

Interesting.

What E does is put your CNS in over-drive and also plays
a role in your serotonergic metabolism.(You feel happy
and elated while on E).

The prozac would combat the serotonergic come down.
E can play havoc with your 5-HT levels.

Now, increased oxygen consumption because of CNS stimulation
produces free radicals that damage neurons. This prozac can not combat. Only ALA can as it is a very potent anti-oxidant.

Mixing ALA and Prozac(OR better yet 5-HTP. Just safer IMO)
with E would help prevent any potential damage.

It sounds good on paper. Don't know about real life though.
I don't condone E use, but if I did do E, I would DEFINATELY
use ALA and 5-HTP.

Fonz

 

[Golden_Muscle]

o <--------Your asshole before jail


0 <-------Your asshole after jail

That is fucking funny! lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its not like hes going to die, he might get raped up the shit hole but thats it! It would be a pleasure for me to go to jail. Kidding bro, I hope you get out early on good behavior or something because what you did doesnt make you a bad person. Just eat sleep and workout like a freak for 3 years, dont make enemies and set examples if you have to. You will probably have the internet as well. Boy it must be hard to be in your situation. They should also lock up beer drinkers too. Fucking beer drinking pigs!

 

[hitmeoff]

Interesting.

What E does is put your CNS in over-drive and also plays
a role in your serotonergic metabolism.(You feel happy
and elated while on E).

The prozac would combat the serotonergic come down.
E can play havoc with your 5-HT levels.

Now, increased oxygen consumption because of CNS stimulation
produces free radicals that damage neurons. This prozac can not combat. Only ALA can as it is a very potent anti-oxidant.

Mixing ALA and Prozac(OR better yet 5-HTP. Just safer IMO)
with E would help prevent any potential damage.

It sounds good on paper. Don't know about real life though.
I don't condone E use, but if I did do E, I would DEFINATELY
use ALA and 5-HTP.

Fonz

Cool deal, I always respect your opinions on these sorts of matters.

 

[RussianBro]

Fonz, explain this abstract to me in plain english:

Abstract: unassigned Both enantiomers of 3,4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA) competitively inhibited 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT) catabolism by rat brain MAO-A. A mixed type of inhibition by MDMA was observed for phenethylamine catabolism by MAO-B for both optical antipodes. When the MAO inhibitory properties of fenfluramine (FEN) and fluoxetine (FLUOX) were compared with those of MDMA, the rank order potency of these drugs was MDMA>FLUOX>FEN for MAO-A inhibition and FLUOX>MDMA>FEN for MAO-B inhibition. MDMA produced a preferential inhibition of MAO-A, which should increase extracellular 5-HT; this may explain its high toxicity potential. FLUOX showed an inhibition of MAO-B, which may increase the intracellular content of 5-HT and may contribute to its therapeutic potential. FEN appears to be a poor inhibitor of both MAO-A and MAO-B.

This is from a related study of effect of Prozac on E.

But in anycase, if ALA is neuroprotector, then you agree that, with enough knowledge, and responsibility, a person could use E relatively safely.

Not taking your Prozac and your ALA while on E, i think is like not taking you ALA or Milk Thistle when your running ABombs.

Im sure heavy, long term Anadrol use, without proper supplementation can be as bad in the long run as consistant and irresposible E use. Thats my bottom line.

This all sounds great... And don't get me wrong, I don't want to be perceived as one of people who blindly don't want accept that it can be administered safely... You can be right or you can be wrong... So as I... One abstract cannot possibly prove to me that E can be used safely... Example? I read probably about 6 abstracts on use of Nolva or Clomid post cycle... they pretty much contradicted each other. There is still big confusion on which one to use (both, probably is the best way to go).

But, no matter how many abstracts I read, I will never get anywhere close to this drug...
In regards of laws issues... Whenever there is someone is busted with AAS and there were "other" substances found, the AAS users get another "black mark" on them... Somehow cops and judges are more understanding of AAS use than E or cocain, etc...
It is quite frankly impossible to fight system and educate everyone else on "safe E use."

The reason that I brought up rapes on E use... I worked with almost 20 girls by now who were raped during rave parties... Sorry you couldn't understand what I was talking about. I can try typing it in Russian for you next time...

Now, if you will pardon me, I've got to go get my Test/Deca injection done...

 

[ripped1979]

GUYS, DONT MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT WHAT THE HELL IS G? IS IT GHB?? DID HE AND HIS BUDDIES MAKE AND SELL IT THATS WHY THEY ARE ALL GETTING PUT AWAY? IS HIS GETTIG PUT AWAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BUYING AAS? SORRY FOR THE CAPS!

 

[PatBateman]

GUYS, DONT MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT WHAT THE HELL IS G? IS IT GHB?? DID HE AND HIS BUDDIES MAKE AND SELL IT THATS WHY THEY ARE ALL GETTING PUT AWAY? IS HIS GETTIG PUT AWAY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BUYING AAS? SORRY FOR THE CAPS!

from what I understand this has nothing do with aas. Yes, G is GHB and from the posts it looks like he and some friends were developing a GHB analog drug and trying to market it and sell it.

 

[hitmeoff]

Now, if you will pardon me, I've got to go get my Test/Deca injection done...

I have a Prop/Eq/Fina shot myself

 

[1Mistake]

Update

1mistake don't leave us hanging, lets hear your story

OK..1st of all it was for conspireacy to traffic MDMA. I never got caught with 1 pill!!! Out of 30 people,I would not give up names-therefore I am getting hasher treatment than normal.
A drug is a drug. AS will still land you in jail if the amounts are there. I'm not out to crusade for X-but it is now 5x more criminalized than H. The FDA even wanted to put it class III-but when elections come around,tough guidelines get votes. he War on Drugs is a joke!! The agents that arrested even said all they care about is the $$...they know there are 20 other drugs out there worse than MDMA..its the media.

I went today and they DA and DEA attacked me from the go. They want 6 yrs minimal..this is for NO posession!! The judge only allowed a half hr to hear each side and we went 1.5 hrs over the time allotted. My lawyer is like fucking Al Pacino!!! He needs an Oscar!! The judge said he couldn't make a fair call without looking into the testimony from the informants more deeply. I have to go back on Dec 5th and thats lights out. On the light side,I'll get 3 yrs...for being a tough motherfucker when all these pussies copped out!! Thankfully I have the old guidelines. Under the new ones I would be doing 35- LIFE

 

[1Mistake]

Oh yeah..I did help develop and market a G analog product-I can't name it because my case is tech. not over...but it does taste like fruit punch wink,wink....I'm sure they are going to let some child diddler out early to make room for me and waste tax $$.
MDMA can cause bad effects on the brain..this is not 100% clear in testing. The FDA just approved MDMA HUMAN clinical trials to begin soon...hhhhhmmm...$$$
I have nothing to worry about in jail-I've been there awaiting bail and I'm...lets say "protected"..people like the fact I kept my mouth shut

 

[Zerxes]

Oh yeah..I did help develop and market a G analog product-I can't name it because my case is tech. not over...but it does taste like fruit punch wink,wink....I'm sure they are going to let some child diddler out early to make room for me and waste tax $$.
MDMA can cause bad effects on the brain..this is not 100% clear in testing. The FDA just approved MDMA HUMAN clinical trials to begin soon...hhhhhmmm...$$$
I have nothing to worry about in jail-I've been there awaiting bail and I'm...lets say "protected"..people like the fact I kept my mouth shut

You're alot tougher than most would've been brother. Obviously, somone raised you with some actual sense of value. Most would've squauked like a parott. I admire you, and wish you luck.

More than likely(especially if you weren't directly involved) you would've gotten a LIGHT probation sentence MAX, if you would've rolled. Given that option, and the option of 3 years minimum, I think that 95% of people would've ratted. I hope the kiddies here doing their PETTY FUCKIN BITCHING about you not telling us what your story was fast enough, actually realize what real problems(and real decisions) are after reading your update bro!