Going on and not coming off, or bridging between cycle?

[Gorilla-Pharma]

I realize everything suppresses at different levels. I want to see were I'm at at 4 weeks PCT, will prob take more like 12 weeks. I wanna know how bad my levels are actually. I've heard of many of you guys using online blood results? Am I correct on that?

masteron will suppress you. any AAS will. some more than others.

you can run bloods and look at your LH and FSH. if they are near 0 then you know you are 'shutdown/suppressed'

then it will be time to blast some hcg/HMG and run a pct to try and get things humming again .. if you were on for 2 years you are gonna want to stretch out a pct for a while.. can't run 4 week pct and expect to get anywhere.

once your LH starts waking up that will trickle over to your test levels slowly. its kinda cool running bloods every couple weeks during this and watching things slowly recover. then all of a sudden you see a huge jump in your LH and total T and then you know your body is finally producing test on its own at a good clip

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Cruising on 250mg wk is not cruising. 100-150mg wk is what will keep your test levels high normal which is what you want to stay as healthy as possible. Go 125 mg wk and get bloods done after 2 months and see where its at. Up it 25mg or take it down. Whatever keeps you around 850ng/DL. You don't want to be cruising on more test than you need. Then other shit happens. Your body isn't in normal range. Your RBC count goes and stays high, as does hemocrit ect... Stuff you don't want constantly elevated.

 

[stevesmi]

Cruising on 250mg wk is not cruising. 100-150mg wk is what will keep your test levels high normal which is what you want to stay as healthy as possible. Go 125 mg wk and get bloods done after 2 months and see where its at. Up it 25mg or take it down. Whatever keeps you around 850ng/DL. You don't want to be cruising on more test than you need. Then other shit happens. Your body isn't in normal range. Your RBC count goes and stays high, as does hemocrit ect... Stuff you don't want constantly elevated.

yup and you pretty much feel like shit if you don't cruise at a moderate level which defeats the purpose.

 

[stevesmi]

I realize everything suppresses at different levels. I want to see were I'm at at 4 weeks PCT, will prob take more like 12 weeks. I wanna know how bad my levels are actually. I've heard of many of you guys using online blood results? Am I correct on that?

privatemdlabs.com is the one i have been using.

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

privatemdlabs.com is the one i have been using.

Thanks, think I should test at start of PCT here?

 

[RickRock13]

Thanks, think I should test at start of PCT here?

If you are wanting to assess recovery, its probably best to test after PCT. Testing at the start of PCT will just show you that you are shutdown...what you already know.

Testing about 2-3 weeks after PCT is what I would do.

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

If you are wanting to assess recovery, its probably best to test after PCT. Testing at the start of PCT will just show you that you are shutdown...what you already know.

Testing about 2-3 weeks after PCT is what I would do.

That's what I'm gonna do, so ill post aprox 6 weeks out to see were I'm at.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

yup and you pretty much feel like shit if you don't cruise at a moderate level which defeats the purpose.

Im sure you'd feel fine at any cruising dose really. But if you Want to do it as right and safe as possible then you need to be at an actual HRT level. Theres an older guy on here that cruises at 300mg wk or something like that IIRC. Some people do require 200-250mg wk to get high normal levels. But thats pretty rare. So walking around with a constant level of say 1400-1500ng/dl as opposed to a top range normal 850ng/dl or even slightly high at 900ng/dl is going to start slowly compounding problems. Prolonged elevation of all things RBC will start to take its toll on your heart eventually.

I have been cruising for 5 months. It wasnt my origional plan but it happened. Even at 150mg wk my body, i feel, isnt completely shut down. What I mean is it seems to be constantly trying to recover. I say this because my nuts are huge most days and i'm taking no HCG or HCgenerate. On a normal cycle without any support for nut size they would be like raisins. Especially in the morning they are huge.
Just as an example my plan is to do a cutter in the next few weeks for 8 weeks. Then cruise for feb/mar maybe do some sort of 4 week blast of an oral or maybe suspension just to try. Then cruise another 8 weeks and blast a lean bulk june-sept. then cruise another 3 months.then attempt to clean up for a year by running a massive pct. 3 months of unleashed, hcgenerate, natty test booster, multiple pins of HMG, DAA, forma, Peptides,even if I were to recover nicely I will lose some mass.
Theres no comparison between natty test and synthetic. Even if your levels are the same with each you will hold more mass with the synthetic test.

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

That's why I kind of wanna see my Bloods now. When I cycles your right nuts went down. But I've been of test for 10-12 weeks and runnig aprox 200mg of mast E only. Nuts are very full and all there. I feel great, I'm wondering how shut down I actually am.

Im sure you'd feel fine at any cruising dose really. But if you Want to do it as right and safe as possible then you need to be at an actual HRT level. Theres an older guy on here that cruises at 300mg wk or something like that IIRC. Some people do require 200-250mg wk to get high normal levels. But thats pretty rare. So walking around with a constant level of say 1400-1500ng/dl as opposed to a top range normal 850ng/dl or even slightly high at 900ng/dl is going to start slowly compounding problems. Prolonged elevation of all things RBC will start to take its toll on your heart eventually.

I have been cruising for 5 months. It wasnt my origional plan but it happened. Even at 150mg wk my body, i feel, isnt completely shut down. What I mean is it seems to be constantly trying to recover. I say this because my nuts are huge most days and i'm taking no HCG or HCgenerate. On a normal cycle without any support for nut size they would be like raisins. Especially in the morning they are huge.
Just as an example my plan is to do a cutter in the next few weeks for 8 weeks. Then cruise for feb/mar maybe do some sort of 4 week blast of an oral or maybe suspension just to try. Then cruise another 8 weeks and blast a lean bulk june-sept. then cruise another 3 months.then attempt to clean up for a year by running a massive pct. 3 months of unleashed, hcgenerate, natty test booster, multiple pins of HMG, DAA, forma, Peptides,even if I were to recover nicely I will lose some mass.
Theres no comparison between natty test and synthetic. Even if your levels are the same with each you will hold more mass with the synthetic test.

 

[-SD-]

That's why I kind of wanna see my Bloods now. When I cycles your right nuts went down. But I've been of test for 10-12 weeks and runnig aprox 200mg of mast E only. Nuts are very full and all there. I feel great, I'm wondering how shut down I actually am.

Gotta get bloods to know for sure, cant just go by feel