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Going clean, need some input!

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Due to court procedures and covering my ass :) I am will be going clean, forever, how about we say yes ;)

Its been 4 years since I have trained completely clean all year long and those that do, what is new out there for supplements. All I usually take between cycles right now is Creatine, Protein, glutamine and Animal Paks. Now that I will be clean all the time I would like to take anything other supplements that boost training.

Post up what you guys use as I know lots of clean dudes around here.
 
Take some BCAA's to bro. Amino's rock. Looks like you are pretty straight already!! Good luck man!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
The Bigdawg said:
If they did I would look like Colemen :garza:
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You'd be black? :artist:

For real though I like to cycle creatine and tribulus, take a multi-vitamin, some glutamine, and some glucosamine chondroitin mix.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
Scotsman said:
You'd be black? :artist:

For real though I like to cycle creatine and tribulus, take a multi-vitamin, some glutamine, and some glucosamine chondroitin mix.

Cheers,
Scotsman
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i concur with scotsman. Thats all you need. take more that one multi vitamin per day though- just because its the "recommended daily allowance" doesn't mean its all you need- especially if you're muscular/athletic/active.
 
Scotsman said:
You'd be black? :artist:

For real though I like to cycle creatine and tribulus, take a multi-vitamin, some glutamine, and some glucosamine chondroitin mix.

Cheers,
Scotsman
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I didn't put it but i am also doing glucosamine-chondroitin, MSM and Celedrin for joint repair and relief.

Haven't done Trib in a few years, was buying it from BAC, what else is good right now?

K for your input bro!!
 
The Bigdawg said:
I didn't put it but i am also doing glucosamine-chondroitin, MSM and Celedrin for joint repair and relief.

Haven't done Trib in a few years, was buying it from BAC, what else is good right now?

K for your input bro!!
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Not sure I bought bulk powder a while ago and haven't had to buy any trib recently. Some other great shit is from Iron Curtain Labs www.ironcurtainlabs.com it's called GH1000. I got the four bottle system a while back in it works great, I had great workouts and was seldom sore at all.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
nutsnack said:
Mt1
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yeah except M1T would negate the purpose of going "clean"


You're gonna have to clean up your diet a little probably - training natty isnt as forgiving as being on.
 
UA_Iron said:
yeah except M1T would negate the purpose of going "clean"


You're gonna have to clean up your diet a little probably - training natty isnt as forgiving as being on.
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yea that is a must, I eat very clean when need to and right now I NEED TO LOL.
 
I have been clean for a while (as you can see from my skinny ass in my avatar). I just started taking Tribex 5 on 2 off. I think I am going to use ZMA too.
Other than that I use 100% whey from Optimum, MASS AMINO'S & ULTRA 40 from Beverly. I am more lean than most guys in my gym. I still outgain the guys that are on too. Its all diet for me!
 
From your avatar it looks like you've been clean for a long time already.
 
Miss24k said:
For trib, tribestan is supposed to be 1 of the best.
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I will never bother with anything but Tribestan ever again for my trib needs. Tried something different on a couple of occasions due to getting an incredibly low price...and was disappointed on both occasions.

Also, I'm using BSN CellMass right now along with 1/2 of a carb drink immediately after every workout, and it's making a substantial difference.

Other than that, just make sure you take in a 100% whey isolate drink 1/2 hour after taking CellMass, and eat at least one serving of lean beef (eg Eye of Round) every day as part of your protein intake...and you will do as well as can be expected while clean. Maybe throw an extra rest day into your training split too, just to make sure you aren't overtraining.
 
canadianhitman said:
I will never bother with anything but Tribestan ever again for my trib needs. Tried something different on a couple of occasions due to getting an incredibly low price...and was disappointed on both occasions. .
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I have been clean for 1.5 year now and for most of that time have had sub-optimal free test/bio-available test. Total T was consistently good usually around ~500ng/dl or 17.5nmol/l. After running tribestan for 2 months, i had some blood tests done....LH doubled as did Bio-Available test. I then added some dostinex with the tribestan and got tested again. Bio-availble test doubled again. I am now at 11 nmo/l (range is 6-21). I feel much better...
 
canadianhitman said:
I will never bother with anything but Tribestan ever again for my trib needs. Tried something different on a couple of occasions due to getting an incredibly low price...and was disappointed on both occasions.

Also, I'm using BSN CellMass right now along with 1/2 of a carb drink immediately after every workout, and it's making a substantial difference.

Other than that, just make sure you take in a 100% whey isolate drink 1/2 hour after taking CellMass, and eat at least one serving of lean beef (eg Eye of Round) every day as part of your protein intake...and you will do as well as can be expected while clean. Maybe throw an extra rest day into your training split too, just to make sure you aren't overtraining.
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Overtraing won't be a problem, I have my off cycle training program down pat.

Big thing is seeing what others are taking supp wise as I didn't spend my money on anything other then Creatine and Protein while off and still maintained 90% of my gains.

Now that I have to go clean I wanna make more gains instead of just keeping what i have as I did in the past while off.

Will check out Tribestan and see how it goes.
 
Props for going clean. Here's to glutamine and protein. :chomp:
 
thats a big step man... props to you... i never use creatine cuz all it does is cause water retention, hence the weight gain and strength gain, joints r more lubed and what not.. i look worse on creatine then w/o
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thats a big step man... props to you... i never use creatine cuz all it does is cause water retention, hence the weight gain and strength gain, joints r more lubed and what not.. i look worse on creatine then w/o
 
superqt4u2nv said:
There is something you can take they have no test for I foget what it is I believe javaguru was taking it pm him :)
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I am aware of it but it isn't possible financially either.
 
well....not sure how clean you need to be, but perhaps you could still partake in clen, T3, HGH, and other such things that aren't anabolic steroids per se.....

if not i think everyone else pretty much covered it....protein, aminos, glutamine, creatine, ECA of some sort, trib....I guess NO2, and I've always been partial to ZMA.
 
HMB, ZMA, tribulus, no2, creatine, glutamine, protien, vitmans and fat burns when needed. If you could get up to Newmarket you could get this stuff for sorta free just pay by being there and selling stuff. I know he needs help on Saturday's in October.
 
You must be in some shit if they are actually testing for juice. I was pissing in a cup once a week and juicing all the way through.

What about these "off cycle" supp compounds that are supposed to raise natural test level after a cycle. They contain things like aveena, zinc, trib, etc.
 
milo hobgoblin said:
damn, good luck with that. Too bad they took all the good prohormones off the market.
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Actually, there are still some good prohormones legally available. It seems the anti-prohormone laws excluded compounds that existed at that time, but now there are some new ones, invented after the ban, that somehow are not technically included by the ban.

One that I tried and liked is called Trenobol. It's basically a precursor to Trenbolone (allegedly only 2 hydrogen atoms different) and either converts to trenbolone or a crippled form of trenbolone in the body. For me it had all the effects and side effects of real tren so I was pretty convinced. I gained 8 pounds in 3 weeks on the stuff and got really strong.

Trenobol is made by an apparently fictitious company in Las Vegas called "Novel Nutrition" (I couldn't find it) and is sold at a store called Max Muscle in San Francisco.

There are several other new prohormones that act like exotic new types of steroid. They even have products that are supposed to mimic PCT, but I haven't investigated what's in them or how they work. People seem to like these products and they are bestsellers, according to the sales person and hearsay around town.

Good luck to you going clean, bro.
- DJ
 
Id go with BioTest Tribex. It contains tribulus and avena sativa which both raise test naturally and have studies to prove it. Other than that just protein, creatine and glutamine. Maybe try some 6 OXO? 10ius humalog post workout with 2 iu hgh monday - friday too may help....Personally i could care less if i ever see a needle again and i think its gonna be 250mgs of cyp for awhile until i get the courage to come off totally.lol
 
chefbone said:
Take some BCAA's to bro. Amino's rock. Looks like you are pretty straight already!! Good luck man!!! :Chef: :tuc:
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There are aminos in everything, no need to take them by themselves.

Good luck Dawg.......It wasn't easy at first, but overall, I am much healthier/happier now. I'm under 250 for the first time in a looooonnng time....

Flexibility....check!

Breathing easier....check!

Arms still over 20" (just shy of 21).....check!

All I am taking at this point is ON Whey, some creatine, and other piddly shit (just to ease my body back into a healthy lifestyle).

:)
 
canadianhitman said:
Also, I'm using BSN CellMass right now along with 1/2 of a carb drink immediately after every workout, and it's making a substantial difference.

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Where are you getting this at...?? :)
 
mekannik said:
Are you being tested for compounds specifically or being above the high normal range limit?
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I'm guessing he doesn't know; he's preparing for the possiblity of anything.
 
galaxy said:
i think its gonna be 250mgs of cyp for awhile until i get the courage to come off totally.lol
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This is EXACTLY how I came off, with help from the doc.

Also, aveena sativa didn't do shit for me. Good luck with your decisions bro.
 
I'm just gonna do the cyp/igf-1 thing once I use up what I got.
 
Well knowing u still got 20" arms helps give me strength to do it.lol Ive been back in the gym for a whole month now and after benching today my fucking shoulders are killing me right now.
 
M1T is the shit. I added that stuff to my test cycles and got better gains that when I added deca.. M1T didnt fuck with my sex drive either.. man I miss that stuff. Worst part is that its harder to get than gear now.. I dont think anyone even makes it anymore.
 
Are they testing you? Small doses of test...very small.

1/2 amp of sus is better than nothing.

Creatine, MRP's for nutrient rich calories
 
No idea what I will be tested for. But its a major issue in my child custody case to make me look bad so I am offering myself up to be tested or will already have a test done for gear before I go to court showing I am clean as a whistle.

My joints will never forgive me but I went 34 years clean and only juiced for 3 years so I will have to adapt again. I was happy with how I looked before just a matter of training differently.
 
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