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Bruce

Bruce

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what up bros just wanted to let everyone know that i will be around still and happy to share my experience and knowledge but i am going natty for a while. right now i am almost at my goal and i would like to see how easy it is to maintain naturally. i also am so busy that i can't go balls to the wall with diet and workout so it is a a waste of gear. hope all cycles are going well if you want advice or anything just holler. i'll be around and probably will do a light cycle this summer when i can be serious with my regiment. this last cycle was also the first time that i experienced sides or any drastic change in bp and the first time i had trouble recovering so i am going to be much more modest with my cycles from now on. i don't think i realized how strong some of these compounds actually are and i got a reality check. sorry to ramble but thanks to everyone on this board for being a place to learn and not judge one another. just remember you don't need huge amounts of gear but just a deadicated diet and training regiment. peace out. if you want to give me some free primo then i'd consider staying on fellas.
 
Good luck with the Natty thing. You don't know me.... but i know you. :) All your posts on T-Bol helped plan out my cycle... thanks.


--Techbaseball
 
good luck bro..

when your head clears after your levels return to normal, let me know what your next cycle is going to be ;)
 
Hey Bruce got any recent blood tests? You say you had problems recovering, what are your test levels now?
 
How bout a cycle history?

Good luck going natty. Of course, the more you focus on diet and rest, and quality training, the better for you.
 
first cycle was 600 deca and winny with 250iu's of hcg a week, should have done test but still gained 20 lbs, no libido issues or deca dick just a tad bit of depression from progesterone. winny was ran the last 5 weeks of a 12 week cycle at 50mg ed. hcg 500iu's mon, wed, fri for two weeks with nolva 40mg ed for a week and 2 more weeks at 20mg ed was pct. no rise in bp or anything.
second was tbol 60mg ed for 25 days. gained 7 lbs of lean mass no sides easy recovery. nolva pct same as above without hcg. no liver damage or anything.
last cycle was
600 deca 1-10
500 test e 1-14
40mg dbol weeks 4-8
test prop 100mg eod weeks 1-4.
gained 12 lbs after 18 were put on
hcg and nolva pct same as 1st with hcg bumped to 1000iu's a shot. by blood work was fine i don't have it in front of me i just moved, but the bp was high and i always have perfect bp even after my first two cycles. recovery was a bitch only in the bedroom i needed some cialis and that NEVER happened to me. i just look at the fact that i got my best results when on the least gear and that is because i ate like it was my job. when i can do that i'll hit up some primo and anavar or tbol

recovery was not horrible but a lot more drastic, no
 
hey bruce thanx for stayin around bro. i'm on a ugv tbol only cycle right now. day 3 today. i'm on 40mg ed. planning on running that for 28 days. was thinking of bumping up to 60 but the anxious feeling i get from the doses i dont think i can take another 20 mg right now. got nolva on hand for pct. what do you think?? does the jacked up feeling i get subside as time goes, or is that the effect i'll always get??


also what about gyno with tbol only?? you ever get any symptoms??
thanks again bro.
 
Bruce you're a great bro and I hope you really do stick around EF. Sorry to hear about the sides catching up with you. It happens to many of us sooner or later, and I think you made the right decision.

And if you decide to get back in the game, try cycling Tbol-only 4 weeks on, 5 weeks off for 6 months.



Mendo
 
mendo said:
Bruce you're a great bro and I hope you really do stick around EF. Sorry to hear about the sides catching up with you. It happens to many of us sooner or later, and I think you made the right decision.

And if you decide to get back in the game, try cycling Tbol-only 4 weeks on, 5 weeks off for 6 months.



Mendo
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that is what i will do unless by some chance i have some primo to run it with. but most likely i will do another 4 week tbol only. i loved it and i really didn't even notice coming off it was like discontinuing N02 i just lost the pump. to answer the question you will feel jacked up for 4 weeks if you are like me and mendo, fergie, and fonixer, not sure who else concurs this. just seems to fade away
 
Goodluck bro... thanks for all your help... don't worry i'll still be bugging you from time to time lol!!!

ang.tibay
 
the sides from my last cycle were at first non-existant. then the dbol began to make me so hot i could walk around the windy city with a beater on in late november. then i began getting offel headaches from the dbol i think, both bp related. Then i had a lot of trouble sleeping from the dbol, once i dropped it i was good. Also coming off the dbol regardless of the fact that i was on test i was intensly emotional about trivial things, though it was just in my head and i knew it, i did not like the feeling. and then there is the gyno you have to keep in check with your anti e's and that fucks with your cholesterol. i just don't need to be taking so many things in my body unless i am training for my job.
 
i'm not leaving the game by any means just gonna go natty till this summer fellas, and in no way am i saying not to do big cycles i'm just saying i am not in a postition where a heavy stack is necessary.
 
mendo said:
Bruce you're a great bro and I hope you really do stick around EF. Sorry to hear about the sides catching up with you. It happens to many of us sooner or later, and I think you made the right decision.

And if you decide to get back in the game, try cycling Tbol-only 4 weeks on, 5 weeks off for 6 months.



Mendo
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hey bro.......I love tbol....how does that 4 on 5 off work, is that enough time to recover? Please tell me more about that cycle......
 
mr.jones said:
hey bro.......I love tbol....how does that 4 on 5 off work, is that enough time to recover? Please tell me more about that cycle......
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You should always get blood tests to decide if you're recovered. In my case, I ran Tbol 4 weeks on, 5 weeks off for 6 months last year and blood tests showed my test levels were back to normal (mine are low naturally) and my liver and lipids were fine after each off period. Some may need more time to recover...some less. I think its important to run a good solid PCT with HCG and nolva, even though its just short cycles of orals. Also, I ran policosinol and low dose nolva even when on...so my values never got that bad anyway. You only gain a few lbs each time...but it adds up :) . Also, Tbol is versatile and you can turn any of those mini-cycles into a cutter or bulker to fine tune, its all about diet. Its one of the few AAS that is great for cutting because it has no sides and you stay dry, but can also give decent gains on a bulker if you up the cals.


Mendo
 
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