God's Army:

[redguru]

muslims are the Christians of earlier generations! The Christian religion went through its violent brutal times, why are we so hard on other religions that simply do the same thing?

We're in a catch 22. We know that fundamentalist Islam is destructive to the lives of non muslims, but we can't denounce it outright and still respect fundamental Christian or Jewish beliefs here at home.

The difference is that Islam hasn't progressed at all since the 7th Century. if 15% of all Muslims agree with Bin Laden's tactics, that's a significant number.

 

[Mr. dB]

Doesn't anyone else find religious recruiting during basic training to be unethical? These boys in basic are in a very vulnerable position, already getting their minds fucked and spirit broken on a daily basis to make them trainable, having all their independence and self-determination stripped away from them and replaced with blind obedience and a groupthink mentality. Taking advantage of that to make them more receptive to religious propaganda at the same time is, uh, like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[redguru]

Doesn't anyone else find religious recruiting during basic training to be unethical? These boys in basic are in a very vulnerable position, already getting their minds fucked and spirit broken on a daily basis to make them trainable, having all their independence and self-determination stripped away from them and replaced with blind obedience and a groupthink mentality. Taking advantage of that to make them more receptive to religious propaganda at the same time is, uh, like shooting fish in a barrel.

I know I found it disgusting and that was in 1984. In boot camp, we were given certain flags for achievements such as drill, inspections, and academics. One flag our Company could earn was the Chapel flag, requiring 100% attendence in religious ceremonies weekly. We'd go to the Chapel, sign in and then promptly leave. But to be the best honored company in the Graduation class, we needed that Flag. The Chaplain Corps is a very powerful group of Officers in the US Military.

 

[redguru]

We basically got four hours off a week to do what we wanted within the confines of the base. To be required to spend an hour of that in Religious Worship we didn't necessarily believe in galled us.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/122107J.shtml

The Christian right has been successful in spreading its fundamentalist agenda at US military installations around the world for decades. But the movement's meteoric rise in the US military came in large part after 9/11 and immediately after the US invaded Iraq in March of 2003. At a time when the United States is encouraging greater religious freedom in Muslim nations, soldiers on the battlefield have told disturbing stories of being force-fed fundamentalist Christianity by highly controversial, apocalyptic "End Times" evangelists, who have infiltrated US military installations throughout the world with the blessing of high-level officials at the Pentagon. Proselytizing among military personnel has been conducted openly, in violation of the basic tenets of the United States Constitution.

Yet another reason it's foolish to join the military these days. We really need to gtfo of the Middle East and start first taking care of problems domestically.

 

[javaguru]

Doesn't anyone else find religious recruiting during basic training to be unethical? These boys in basic are in a very vulnerable position, already getting their minds fucked and spirit broken on a daily basis to make them trainable, having all their independence and self-determination stripped away from them and replaced with blind obedience and a groupthink mentality. Taking advantage of that to make them more receptive to religious propaganda at the same time is, uh, like shooting fish in a barrel.

By going to church we also got an hour in air conditioning, the chapel was the only air conditioned building, very attractive for someone dealing with Oklahoma heat in August.

How about indoctrinating children as they even start to receive the rudiments of formal education, Jesus Camp style?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_EKHK1C2IE

 

[Spartacus]

red finally got around to increasing his sig font size I see

 

[rnch]

By going to church we also got an hour in air conditioning, the chapel was the only air conditioned building, very attractive for someone dealing with Oklahoma heat in August......

quoting the SNL character "the church lady" : "how con-vieeeeeeeeeen-yit!"

 

[Mr. dB]

I suppose to the evangelicals, any opportunity for a new recruit is fair game.

 

[eddymerckx]

Don't forget the christian terrorists.
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like the one in the white house