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Glutamine effect after workouts.....

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Dr. JK

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How many of you use Glutamine supplements after workout and what is the best way take it?

Have you seen a difference with it?

Thanks in advance
 
best way to take it is through an iv. Any other way is a waste of cash and another scam by the supplement companies.
 
Now Glutamine is shit. I suspected as such when I was using it. Now the latest and greatest is the Glutamine Peptides... which I am sure will be debunked soon.
 
So basically Glutamine is crap? Wow, good thing I asked cause I was reading in the nutorious Muscle Mag about how good it is and was ready to start it.

Thanks for the feedback guys!
 
ulter said:
We will be selling someone elses private label of Glutamine peptides starting next week. I'll post what people think of it when we get some responses back on it. I don't know enough about it to comment much.
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I hope it turns out to be a good product. I am so snakebitten with supplements that I no longer waste my money on them. Protien, a Multi and Flax are all I buy anymore. I save the rest for gear.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


I hope it turns out to be a good product. I am so snakebitten with supplements that I no longer waste my money on them. Protien, a Multi and Flax are all I buy anymore. I save the rest for gear.
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I feel (generally) the same way -- hard to get me to try new stuff...

BTW, you know that flax is worthless for omega-3s, right?
 
THeMaCHinE said:


I feel (generally) the same way -- hard to get me to try new stuff...

BTW, you know that flax is worthless for omega-3s, right?
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I use the flax for added fat in my night time shake. I figure it is better than lard.
 
Corleone said:
best way to take it is through an iv. Any other way is a waste of cash and another scam by the supplement companies.
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i apologize, as i am new here and maybe i dont quite understand the terminology used to describe procedures around here.
does iv stand for what i think it does ?? (intravenously)?? this cant be. im sure it stands for something else or is a joke.
either way could someone clear this up for me.
thanks
speller
 
Iv is intravenously. They make an injectable form of glutamine and it would be the only decent glutamine product. Hopefully the peptides will be worthwhile.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


I hope it turns out to be a good product. I am so snakebitten with supplements that I no longer waste my money on them. Protien, a Multi and Flax are all I buy anymore. I save the rest for gear.
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I know how you feel give it a shot you wont be let down:)


just remember tyo mix it with a flovored protien drink

its not to be drinken by itself, just add it to your drink like any supp. in powder form

add one big table spoon twice daily


for each large table spoon (17 grams)you'll be getting 5.595 grams of glutamine


every body builder I know (esp off cycle) just thrives on the stuff
 
OMEGA said:



I know how you feel give it a shot you wont be let down:)


just remember tyo mix it with a flovored protien drink

its not to be drinken by itself, just add it to your drink like any supp. in powder form

add one big table spoon twice daily


for each large table spoon (17 grams)you'll be getting 5.595 grams of glutamine


every body builder I know (esp off cycle) just thrives on the stuff
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I hope you are right OMega. Forgive me if I wait a little while to see the reaction of others. I am tired of wasting cash on "HMB" type products.
 
The_Eviscerator said:


I hope you are right OMega. Forgive me if I wait a little while to see the reaction of others. I am tired of wasting cash on "HMB" type products.
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forgiven:)

I can share with you MOD feedback from various boards

from a MOD

"I've been using it since I got off last cycle, I'd guess about 6-8 weeks now. My last couple cycles I lost considerable size and strength post cycle. But this time I've retained most all my size and have maintained my strength. I think it would be hard to judge if the glutamine worked or not if I was "on" but since I was off, and it had about the exact opposite effect as my previous cycles, I can honestly say that I'm very pleased with this product"

and another MOD

"It's going well. I've been using it for a while now and have not lost nearly as much post cycle as I did last time. I'm not sure how much credit goes towards the glutamine but I think it helps."



and another MOD



"I met OMEGA on another board...where I'm a Mod...
I am now using his product.
I must say, I love it.
No he didn't pay me to say this or give me free products. I'm just spreading the word b/c I will never use plain glutamine again.

I mix one Tblspn with my protein in the AM and post workout. I am recovering quicker and feeling better. BTW, I can hardly tell the difference as far as taste in my protein drink.

Great Product OMEGA ! You got a customer out of me. "



and an OWNER of one of the elite boards



"Like Ive said, the taste is bad by itself but once you mix it with whatever protein powder you are using, the taste gets nulled.

I like the stuff. At the very worst its an extra 15 grams of quality protein per day and that cant hurt at all."


let me reply to the MACHINE as to why it works

:)

take care
OMEGA
 
Ok Omega... Where can I get some. I am willing to try anything once. Hell I even smoked crack once... so I am sure Glutamine Peptides won't hurt me.;)
 
Glutamine is largely used in parenteral ( IV) solutions. However, the first solutions containing Glutamine presented problems with solubility and stability. Adding peptides ( alanine mostly, ALA-GLU) was the solution found to increase stability and solubility to make and store these PARENTERAL(iv) glutamine solutions.
Adding peptides to an oral form of glutamine won't increase it's effectivness, since peptidases in the small intestine will break ALA-GLU into alanine and glutamine. Almost immediately upon absorption glutamine is further broken, and it will be re synthesized in according to physiologic needs. THERE ARE NO REASON TO TAKE GLUTAMINE. Take your share off whey and all glutamine needed will be synthesized within your body.
 
Glutamine doesn't work becasuse it can not work. Annyone who thinks differently is mistaken .Even if you've experienced good results while using it, it wasn't the glutimine.

Back when I was wrting for T-mag, before it sucked balls, I exposed the fraud of the supplement marketers who sold glutimine. It's taken about 4 years but research has proven me right. Oral gluamine can not be absorbed. End of story.

Don't discount the placebo effect. I know someone who stopped eating sugar and her arthritis symptoms miraculously disappeared. Meanwhile she eats potatos, rice cakes, Power bars, carrots, apples and cereals -- all laden with sugar. But she's convinced cutting sugar from her diet did the trick.

Nobody wants to admit that something that "worked" didn't really work at all. They just convinced themselves it did. That's what 99% of the supplement companies count on.
 
The_Eviscerator said:
Ok Omega... Where can I get some. I am willing to try anything once. Hell I even smoked crack once... so I am sure Glutamine Peptides won't hurt me.;)
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you can get it at THE AF STORE

https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop/

look to the bottom right hand corner

its coming soon:p

your open mindedness will pay off :)

and it wont hurt at all

aside form all the advantages it gives you in regards to nitrogen retention , immune system inhancement, and recuperation

GPLENISH is actually good for you in terms of giving you antioxidant benifits and other benifits to your digestive system,

I am going to make a thread just about the product and why it works
in a day

talk to you soon bro please share your feedback

just remember to mix it with a flavored beverage (just add it to your protin drink-----I add mine with a little milk and banana)
it tastes earthy by itself
 
Rio and Nelson

I respectfully disagree

aslo Nelson I think your experience as most of ours here was limited to just L-GLUTAMINE the sythetic mono peptide form that is extremley unstable

Glutamine Peptides are the way glutamine was suppost to be taken all along...

stable, bioavailable, and potent


give it a shot you will be as surprised as I was........
 
Yeah, yeah. And Androsteine didn't work because it needed cyclodextrins. And HMB didn't work unless you took it for 6 weeks. And Methoxy didn't work because one molecule was out of whack but now they got it right. And Gamma Orzanol didn't work until they added micro-ecapsulated peptide ions to the formula.

All bullshit to get you to buy more.

Glutamine does nothing. Accept it.
 
I like Glutamine for what it is. Its not a magic supplement, just a very good one. I get 5 grams in my isopure clear whey so its practically free. I believe it helps me recover, as I seem to recover more quickly when I take it.
 
Hi Nelson although I don't know you at all, I can't deny that you have alot of knowledge at your finger tips.


but but before you go on discounting a product en' total
you may want to try it....


what we have is a potent adjuct to our nutrition and goals in what we all are trying to do here

and Glutamine Peptides are a tool and aid

straight up....no apologies.....its potent.....and......it works

thanks

OMEGA
 
I agree. Few things are black and white and many conclusions are not scientifically drawn, so I dont believe in absolutes such as "glutamine can not work!". Well my evidence for it "working" is at least as good if not better than the empirical evidence against it. I like glutamine better than creatine, it works that well for me. I believe it helps my recovery a lot.
 
Anabolic MD

I could not agree with you any more.

things are not back and white especially when dealing with the variables associated with each individual.

however

I am confidant there will be a dissproportionate amount of those who try Glutamine Peptides that will be happy with the results.

just make sure you mix it with something flavored because by itself it tastes earthy............all you need is one big table spoon twice daily added to your protien drink.


Where normal glutamine may or may not have had benifits
GPENISH GLUTAMINE PEPTIDES DOES have benifits............

your body and increasee energy levels will tell you so........

again its not a miracle, although I can easliy say its one of the best supps to come out in along time

its a very noticiable and distict support mechanism in our diets especially when we are doing it natural or coming off cycle.

OMEGA
 
I've been using L-Glutamine for several months now and wondering why it had no noticeable effect after all the muscle mags touted it as a "must have" supplement for post workout recovery.

It's nice to finally hear that I'm not the only one on the planet that thinks L-Glutamine doesn't really do anything.
 
Omega, I have a question...if were not using a glutamine peptide like gplenish...should we not both with the regular supplement (l-glutamine) they sell in the stores at all?

Been taking prolab glutamine powder for about 3 months now, being honest with myself don't really know if its doing anything for me besides the placebo affect...


And another question, Im considering first cycle (age 22, weight 175, want to bulk up) If Im considering buying Gplenish to TRY would you recommend me starting it at the end of my cycle to retain gains? middle or from beginning of cycle? Much Thanks


DecaBane
 
The_Eviscerator said:
Ok Omega... Where can I get some. I am willing to try anything once. Hell I even smoked crack once... ;)
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How were your gains on crack?? J/K. Bro, what were you thinking???? Get the crack out your viens and hope in your brains. Sorry, there's a T.V. evangelists that says this on his comercial. Can't help but chuckle every time I see it.
 
i have to agree with the anabolicmd. glutamine always keeps me pumped and in my opinion works better than creatine. i have a hard time believing that it does'nt do shit. i remember reading one time that the gut is a glutamine "hog" and absorbs most of it. am i making a mistake counting my 20g of daily glutamine towards my total daily protein intake? shit, hope not...
 
jboldman said:
aargh! Drink fish oil? You must live alone! :)

jb
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lol... Actually it is not bad at all. Health from the Sun makes a lemon-lime flavored oil that is very light and neutral tasting... and it's only like $8 for a big bottle.
 
you know i used to take grams upon grams of glutamine, and i even worked at gnc for a time, preaching how using glutamine post workout will help you recover. i havent taken glutamine in about a year and i have still recovered fine without it. I've seen products come and go and the hype behind them, however i still have to give supplement companies some credit for keeping the product on the shelves for so long.
 
Just wanted to add that cold-pressed Flax Seed Oil is the best source of omega-3's.

(this entire thread belongs on the supplements board)
 
DecaBane said:
Omega, I have a question...if I were not using a glutamine peptide like gplenish...should still use the regular supplement (l-glutamine) they sell in the stores at all?


And another question, Im considering first cycle (age 22, weight 175, want to bulk up) If Im considering buying Gplenish to TRY would you recommend me starting it at the end of my cycle to retain gains? middle or from beginning of cycle? Much Thanks


DecaBane
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Hi Decabane
welcome to Elite.....
and your welcome, ask Q's any time.....

the normal l-glutamine that we are all familiar with does seem to have immunological benifits, so if your taking it just for health reasons then thats ok.
The reason why its not effective in the goals of Body Building is that most of it gets terminated by any PH or HEAT changes thus most of it is not taken up by target tissues because it cannot survive long enough to accomplsh that job

but GPLENISH because of it inherant stablity can be absorbed thoughout the whole process of digestion fom stomoch to colon.
thus the possiblity of true nitrogen retention becomes reality.

YOUR going to recover faster, YOUR going to have more endurance, YOUR muscles will feel fuller.


as for you goals I wish you the best of luck .


while on cycle maybe just take it post workout out.

if not just for the antioxidant benifits (click under my name where it says "TAKE IT UP TO THE NEXT LEVEL" that will give you additional info)

POST CYCLE however take it up to three times a day in divided doses.

its going to help alot of us when coming off, preliminary feedback from customers, and mods has already confirmed this.

OMEGA
 
about mixing GPLENISH
heres what to do.


1 just put it in the blender with your other items and blend

or

2

put it all you contents in a shaker bottle dry
with no liquid, and shake till all powdered items merge in to one another.

then add your chosen liquid and shake

then all should be fine.



the only thing about GPLENISH that is different is the mildley earthy flavor wich is just natural

and the fact that you have to mix it in the way explained above

after that your set.


just shake it dry with your other contents till it all merges and add liquid as desired





OMEGA
 
Nelson Montana said:
Yeah, yeah. And Androsteine didn't work because it needed cyclodextrins. And HMB didn't work unless you took it for 6 weeks. And Methoxy didn't work because one molecule was out of whack but now they got it right. And Gamma Orzanol didn't work until they added micro-ecapsulated peptide ions to the formula.

All bullshit to get you to buy more.

Glutamine does nothing. Accept it.
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You're such a farce Nelsen. STOP PARA PHRASING FROM OLD BOOKS.

YOU KNOW nothing about cutting edge supplements.

L-glutamine(the free-form AA) did nothing BECAUSE it was destroyed by the stomach acids, and less than 1% of it reached the blood stream intact.

A bit of background:

Glutamine comprises about 61% of the AA(Amino acid) pool in the blood stream. Making it BY FAR the most abundant.

Strenous excercise depletes Glutamine levels in the bloodstream anywhere from 30-80%...so you can see were a glutamine supplement that actually works could be beneficial. Taken Post-workout it would combat blood glutamine depletion, and bring blood glutamine levels back to normal(or even higher) therefore curbing catabolism by quite some margin.

A Glutamine peptide, is basically a glutamine molecule joined to another glutamine molcule making it MUCH more resistant to stomach acids, and therfore a much higher % of the peptides reach the blood stream. By my estimation, its something like 50%. Compared to L-Glutamine(1%) its a quantum leap forward in glutamine delivery. Only IV is more effective.(Obviously :) )

I definately think its worth buying. Its not a scam like free form L-Glutamine...but a very potent anti-catabolic NATURAL supplemment that is also going to be one heck of an immune booster as well.

Just don't listen to nelson, he doesn't even know what a Gplenish is...probably thinks its normal l-glutamine......lol

You can even improve the absorption of the peptides by using a bufferring agent that reduces the stomachs PH leve(Baking soda or potassium Citrate), making them even more effective.

Fonz
 
hmm around how much baking soda should i take with the gplenish ?

Fonz said:


You're such a farce Nelsen. STOP PARA PHRASING FROM OLD BOOKS.

YOU KNOW nothing about cutting edge supplements.

L-glutamine(the free-form AA) did nothing BECAUSE it was destroyed by the stomach acids, and less than 1% of it reached the blood stream intact.

A bit of background:

Glutamine comprises about 61% of the AA(Amino acid) pool in the blood stream. Making it BY FAR the most abundant.

Strenous excercise depletes Glutamine levels in the bloodstream anywhere from 30-80%...so you can see were a glutamine supplement that actually works could be beneficial. Taken Post-workout it would combat blood glutamine depletion, and bring blood glutamine levels back to normal(or even higher) therefore curbing catabolism by quite some margin.

A Glutamine peptide, is basically a glutamine molecule joined to another glutamine molcule making it MUCH more resistant to stomach acids, and therfore a much higher % of the peptides reach the blood stream. By my estimation, its something like 50%. Compared to L-Glutamine(1%) its a quantum leap forward in glutamine delivery. Only IV is more effective.(Obviously :) )

I definately think its worth buying. Its not a scam like free form L-Glutamine...but a very potent anti-catabolic NATURAL supplemment that is also going to be one heck of an immune booster as well.

Just don't listen to nelson, he doesn't even know what a Gplenish is...probably thinks its normal l-glutamine......lol

You can even improve the absorption of the peptides by using a bufferring agent that reduces the stomachs PH leve(Baking soda or potassium Citrate), making them even more effective.

Fonz
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XzRzX said:
hmm around how much baking soda should i take with the gplenish ?
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About 20g.

Adding a sweetener(Which people do anyways) gets rid of the taste).

Fonz
 
Fonz thanks alot,

I think you just tought ME a couple of things GPLENISH that I did not even know.

=)

on a side note:

FONZ just recieved his GPLENISH, and was open to the idea of trying it.

thanks bro
 
OMEGA said:
Fonz thanks alot,

I think you just tought ME a couple of things GPLENISH that I did not even know.

=)

on a side note:

FONZ just recieved his GPLENISH, and was open to the idea of trying it.

thanks bro
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oh its in huh? i missed this thread. i have spoke with you in the past on it on steroidology under a different username. i'll have to get me some. :) on 2200 cals with anavar/clen/proviron and high protein.....so i can use all the anti-catabolics that i can find. how about making it effervescent like creatine? adding in alka seltzer for stomache PH?
 
would L-Glutamine be asorbed at all with using insulin or still a waste? see a lot of people using it with it and i am just to add something.
 
Little Rage said:
would L-Glutamine be asorbed at all with using insulin or still a waste? see a lot of people using it with it and i am just to add something.
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Insulin pushes everyhting in the blood stream...both fat, glucose, and AA's inot the muscle and fat cells.

So, insulin would just push more AA's(including Glutamine peptides) into the muscle cells)

Fonz
 
Bishop4 said:


i have spoke with you in the past on it on steroidology under a different username. i'll have to get me some. :) on 2200 cals with anavar/clen/proviron and high protein.....so i can use all the anti-catabolics that i can find. how about making it effervescent like creatine? adding in alka seltzer for stomache PH?
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ahh a mystery member


:D lol



www.steroidology.com is easely one of the best boards around period

love that place



anway it WILL make a difference with your diet, you'll feel much better than you normally would when you start really getting down there in weight

I know I get mucho mean when I start getting light, and when i restrict my food intake.

this time around I have been cutting with Glucorell R, GPLENISH, and Thermorexin

and it has been alot easier, and I am less mean:mad: :)

about changing GPLENISh or adding to it.

this is the base product so to speak, but luckily I have found two great collegues, who will help GPLENISH bring in
GPLENISH GENERATION 2

this will take some time though:angel:
 
THeMaCHinE said:


BTW, you know that flax is worthless for omega-3s, right?
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ughh whats up with that?

Singleton said:
Just wanted to add that cold-pressed Flax Seed Oil is the best source of omega-3's.

(this entire thread belongs on the supplements board)
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Flax oil no good for Omega-3 ? New to me
 
OMEGA said:



ahh a mystery member


:D lol



www.steroidology.com is easely one of the best boards around period

love that place



anway it WILL make a difference with your diet, you'll feel much better than you normally would when you start really getting down there in weight

I know I get mucho mean when I start getting light, and when i restrict my food intake.

this time around I have been cutting with Glucorell R, GPLENISH, and Thermorexin

and it has been alot easier, and I am less mean:mad: :)

about changing GPLENISh or adding to it.

this is the base product so to speak, but luckily I have found two great collegues, who will help GPLENISH bring in
GPLENISH GENERATION 2

this will take some time though:angel:
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haha. i'll let you know who i am, shoot you an email. your not a fed or nothing i don't think. :p and i'm making alka-seltzer GPlenish. :D it will be my innovation, and i will patent it. :) lol..
 
Bishop4 said:



haha. i'll let you know who i am, shoot you an email. your not a fed or nothing i don't think. :p and i'm making alka-seltzer GPlenish. :D it will be my innovation, and i will patent it. :) lol..
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no fed here far from it

lol at your patent,;) it probably could be done.

the stuff we will create wil have about 3-5 other goodies in it.

but thats far away.

or is it??........:p ;)
 
point of clarification

each jar of GPLENISH contains 70 plus servings

we decided at the last minute to up the amount

a serving size is 17 grams or one big table spoon.

for ideal results take 2-3 servings of GPLENISH a day.:angel:
 
I've been on that stuff for like 2 week now. Im totally used to the taste. Its not bad at all anymore. It just kinda salty. I seem to be recovering faster but im not sure cause im on quit a few PH's. But i will continue it use.
 
bicepts101 said:
I've been on that stuff for like 2 week now. Im totally used to the taste. Its not bad at all anymore. It just kinda salty. I seem to be recovering faster but im not sure cause im on quit a few PH's. But i will continue it use.
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hey Biceps

what PH's are you on?

juit curiuos
 
well before i knew what was out there i when and spent a shit load on impact PH's. Im on a topical and 3 orals one being dbol. im up 6 lbs
 
glut=necessity

I have found that it really depends on what kind of glutamine you buy and how/when you use it. I prefer L-glut powder (1hour pre workout and 45 mins post and 1hour pre bed.) And Cytovol (drink 1 serving during workout and one before bed)

I believe glutamine to be almost as important as protein dude. You've gotta keep your muscles healthy dogg. You put two guys up to each other (one using glut one not) The one using glut correctly will have healthier muscles able to recover twice as fast.

Hope that helps.....holla back:)
 
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