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GLUCOPHAGE vs R-ALA

glucophage as in metformin ?

had a relative who was on glucophage.

she had terrible stomach cramps and diarrhea to the point that she stopped taking them and asked the doc for another med.

and i heard it cud cause kidney damage :(
 
ulter said:
Glucophage - diarrhea, gas, may cause fluid retention or swelling which could lead to or worsen heart failure, blood tests to check for serious liver problems should be conducted before and during therapy.

Glucorell R - None of the above.

What about the pros?

I am assuming gluchopage 17aa?

Thanks.

-sk
 
macrophage69alpha said:
no glucophage is not 17aa

Then how does it affect the liver?

Thanks, and which one would you say is better for lowering insulin resistence? Mostly for taking before a large meal?

-sk
 
ulter said:
Not that I don't trust them, it's just that I don't trust them.

Hmm, why not? I mean we can use a monitor to measure it, it doesn't cost that much ...

If it was crap wouldn't it be exposed easilly? Just curious on your thoughts ...

-sk
 
ulter said:
Not that it's crap but it's patentable and so there is more interest in it working than say r-ALA which is not patentable.
There is no question that it works, whether it works better than Glucorell R or not isn't possible to determine based on what I have seen.

I wouldn't mind trying both in the near future and giving my blood glucose levels. Maybe in a month or two, i'll do a "study" on myself.

Is gluchopage controlled?

-sk
 
half life 6-17 hours. and ditto on the stomache cramps, intestinal discomfort and loss of appetite. the latter of which would come in handy right now on 2200 cals.
 
Bishop4 said:
half life 6-17 hours. and ditto on the stomache cramps, intestinal discomfort and loss of appetite. the latter of which would come in handy right now on 2200 cals.

Doesn't the discomfort go away within a few days? My friend (from this board too) had some side effects, mainly diarrhea, but they went away within a few days of use.

-sk
 
sk* said:



Is gluchopage controlled?

-sk

last i looked no. masters had it, and they have only non-scheduled items. that is a long while back though.
 
sk* said:


Doesn't the discomfort go away within a few days? My friend (from this board too) had some side effects, mainly diarrhea, but they went away within a few days of use.

-sk

it was transient with me.....but it was there more often than NOT there if you know what i mean. so i would say it stayed with me, got better.....but never left for good. and i got a pretty tough stomache as far as bromo and stuff like that goes. :)
 
ulter said:

hahaha! i was just about to post the same thing and say try it for yourself and see what you think since its non-scheduled and cheap. :D best way to find out. i'd let you have my remainder (which was several boxes full), but i trashed them when i moved. i hate stuff that makes me sick. :p
 
Bishop4 said:


hahaha! i was just about to post the same thing and say try it for yourself and see what you think since its non-scheduled and cheap. :D best way to find out. i'd let you have my remainder (which was several boxes full), but i trashed them when i moved. i hate stuff that makes me sick. :p

Yea, I think i'll give it a shot. I am usually very tolerant and rarely get visible side effects from anything. Bromo was harsh when I took one whole 2.5mg pill my first time out, but when I worked up to 1pill it was way more tolerable.

I have to purchase the monitor first, and then i'll give it a shot.

-sk
 
sk* said:


Yea, I think i'll give it a shot. I am usually very tolerant and rarely get visible side effects from anything. Bromo was harsh when I took one whole 2.5mg pill my first time out, but when I worked up to 1pill it was way more tolerable.

I have to purchase the monitor first, and then i'll give it a shot.

-sk

alright, cuz i was about to tell you to shit or get off the pot. lol. :D you'll be a pioneer if you monitor yourself with this stuff and post results. there are so many questions on metformin its unreal, even with the advent of r-ALA. seems every day on one board or another there is a question about this stuff.
 
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