Girlfriend might be pregnant, need abortion options

[Warik]

none of you can pass judgement

And why not?

Warik you have problems, man this makes me sick, your a pathetic little man who can barely dress himself without the boards help, I would bet anything you have never seen a condom or a vagina.

Hey, what can I say, brown is hard to match. And FYI, even though it is immaterial in this argument, I've seen both.

You're acting very hostile towards me and towards my views because of the experience you've just described, which shocks me. Based on what I've just read, I would have though you'd be on my side arguing against this barbaric practice. Instead you advocate it and support it while still saying that it ruined two lives.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I do have problems, because quite frankly, I don't understand.

-Warik

 

[HighIntensity]

And why not?



Hey, what can I say, brown is hard to match. And FYI, even though it is immaterial in this argument, I've seen both.

You're acting very hostile towards me and towards my views because of the experience you've just described, which shocks me. Based on what I've just read, I would have though you'd be on my side arguing against this barbaric practice. Instead you advocate it and support it while still saying that it ruined two lives.

Maybe you're right. Maybe I do have problems, because quite frankly, I don't understand.

-Warik

My point Warik,

Is I hope this kid can get the morning after pill, because the other options have the potential to create alot more damage.

haveing a kid without a proper education, money or an abortion. both can and will bring pain and hardship for life.

 

[Warik]

point B- i believe life begins when the EMBRYO start to form the brain stem... the key to all thoughts, feelings, emotions, etc... everything that is human lies within the brain. here is where you chime in with a slippery slope.... what if so and so lost his brain in a freak medical experiment? well, i'd reply by saying that since he once had a brain then he maintains his humanity... and we'd argue for a few hours and nothing would be solved... so shut up now and save us the trouble of typing.

The problem with that discussion is the fact that almost every example you can give me of a characteristic that defines life but an embryo/fetus/whatever doesn't have, I can provide a counterpoint that shows that something that is considered to be human life doesn't have it either.

what if you applied rawl's theory of justice to every situation in life... imagine this, you are under the veil of ignorance so you know nothing about your place in society.... i ask of you "should abortion be an option?" you, since you dont know anything about yourself would have to consider everything... what if you were a pregnant female who could not afford to care for a child, who had no resources, no family to help... NOTHING..... or, you could be a father to be and be without a job, car, any means of support... wouldnt you then be more likely to accept abortion as an option?

Speaking from a completely ignorant and egocentric point of view, of course, abortion would be an option. I'd be completely devoid of morality and myself would be the most important part of my decision-making, so the answer is yes. However, we do not live under a veil of ignorance. We (should) live in a world where morality, love, and a general respect for life should be widespread.

Condoms are birth control - they work to keep the semen out of the vagina to avoid pregnancy.

Abortion is not birth control - it is murder.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Girlfriend might be pregnant, need abortion options

but warik, what if the baby doesnt have ralph laureen bedsheets in his nursery in his edward scissorhands suburban home. this could be detrimental to societies percieved notion of his success later in his life. he just may not make it to wallstreet. warik, think of the baby for christ sakes.

Valid point. After all, that's the reason there is so much poverty in the United States today. I mean, shit, so many children being born into either poor families or single-parent homes. How is a kid supposed to get an education or get a job if his parents don't love each other ultimately, buy him nice toys, and have cable TV.

Maybe if we aborted all pregnancies that would lead to birth in anything less than a two-parent upper-middle class household, then killed all people who didn't fall in that category, the world would be so much better - right? After all... it's better to kill someone than to allow them to live in less than optimal circumstances.

Yep.

-Warik

 

[huntmaster]

children are a blessing

 

[Frackal]

Canadian Oak, I remember when you were on the boards confiding in JohnnyO that you thought you were gay, then you claimed you were bi. Why would anyone listen to your dumbass after years of bullshit stories you post here?

You people are being too hard on this guy, he knocked up his girl and he is not ready for kids. To say he shouldn't be fucking then is bullshit, you know you all did it in the past and it never even crossed your mind. We all fucked at the first chance we got, it is human nature to want to drop your load in a chick, unless you are Canadian Oak, then you opt for the butt.

LMAO

 

[paradox]

will bring pain and hardship for life. [/B]

For fuck sake give me a break! Life is full of hardship & pain, deal with it.

 

[HighIntensity]

For fuck sake give me a break! Life is full of hardship & pain, deal with it.

suck it

 

[AAP]

I just read the thread to get a chuckle from hippedy hops "sperm shooting hoodlum" comment...

But consider this... that for one minute you are THAT child and you are growing up with parents that will probably never marry, chances are, you won't even see one of them for a LONG LONG period in your life. You spend all your time with your grandmother because your ONE SINGLE parent is out working a nothing job or trying to go through college. You look at other kids in school and see how they have better homes, two parents, and a more pleasing environment at home.... is this what you would want?

 

[JohnyJuice]

Canadian Oak, I remember when you were on the boards confiding in JohnnyO that you thought you were gay, then you claimed you were bi. Why would anyone listen to your dumbass after years of bullshit stories you post here?

You people are being too hard on this guy, he knocked up his girl and he is not ready for kids. To say he shouldn't be fucking then is bullshit, you know you all did it in the past and it never even crossed your mind. We all fucked at the first chance we got, it is human nature to want to drop your load in a chick, unless you are Canadian Oak, then you opt for the butt.

This is so true. And by the way, i didnt kow oak was a butt slammer. No shit. You homo.