Girlfriend layed down an ultimatum...about AAS

[Frisky]

DOOD.... this is such an accident waiting to happen. 2mths and already a control issue... Imagine a few more months down the road. She'll control the toilet paper and the toothpaste.

Run... Run fast and don't look back.

 

[feisty11975]

Lotsa Dr. Phils up in here. lol

 

[DannoMight]

Its common sense. Her behavior in relationships is repetitive and now she's trying to go her course with him. I'd get while the gettins good. I'd just make sure to giver her a thourough pounding before the breakup. At least make it last 30-45 seconds or about 70-100 pumps.

 

[Frisky]

Lotsa Dr. Phils up in here. lol

you need Dr. Phil....... theriously

 

[feisty11975]

you need Dr. Phil....... theriously

who me? not anymore! lol

 

[chewyxrage]

bro i've noticed over the past few months you've come of age so to speak
the old nihlistic UA is slowly fading bro, you are leaving your old school ef buddies (string, chewy) in a classless wake
commendable

lol you are such a drama queen

 

[jnevin]

if you wanna be solo forever then this is the attitude to adopt
sure brining home randoms is fun...but eventually you'll find yourself lonely.
as gaye as it sounds, true relationships take compromise and listening to your partner.
the tough guy take no shit from my wimmen routine is fun when your young, but it doesn't work when you are a bit older

...

 

[jackangel]

whatever you decide, be sure to let her know that you were guided by several dozen people that you know from the internetses.

 

[Frisky]

whatever you decide, be sure to let her know that you were guided by several dozen people that you know from the internetses.

yes... I agree... that will put a mark on her like no other. Put that bizzle in her place knowing that some random internet persona has the stronghold in her relationship with him. tee hee... she need a reality check anyhow... so what better way to put a drama queen in her place.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

whatever you decide, be sure to let her know that you were guided by several dozen people that you know from the internetses.

and then, stage... and record it like that dood from that university. you know.

 

[UA_Iron]

Its common sense. Her behavior in relationships is repetitive and now she's trying to go her course with him. I'd get while the gettins good. I'd just make sure to giver her a thourough pounding before the breakup. At least make it last 30-45 seconds or about 70-100 pumps.

oh yeah, made her cum last night. Soaked my sheets. Forgot to throw the towel down.

I havent figured out what I'm gonna do yet, but I thank everyone for their insight; even if it was half assed shit talking.

 

[gonelifting]

whatever you decide, be sure to let her know that you were guided by several dozen people that you know from the internetses.

lmao Yeah, tell her this.... "Either I trust YOU or I trust Gonelifting..."


"I choose Gonelifting."




tia, btw.

 

[blueta2]

I don't see it AT ALL as her wanting control! Sounds to me like she cares about you and cares about her future with you. No one wants to be with someone who destroys themselves with any form of drugs.
Whether it be 2 weeks or 2 months, she is looking out for her future. She sounds like a smart girl.
But like someone else here said, don't change for her, change for you. And don't be angry if she walks, she has the right to want what she wants also

 

[jnevin]

bro, when you come off and your own test levels are low and your libido is non existent and youre depressed and want to kill yourself, lets see how supportive she is. im sure she'll stick around to nurture and comfort you in your time of need! I mean, after all she doesnt sound self centered at all.........

Yeah. The sides of the shit she hates affecting the person she cares about will really show her she was wrong. Great point there, cowboy.

 

[alien amp pharm]

don't change for her

^^^Another chick telling you what to do.

 

[DannoMight]

oh yeah, made her cum last night. Soaked my sheets. Forgot to throw the towel down.

I havent figured out what I'm gonna do yet, but I thank everyone for their insight; even if it was half assed shit talking.

After you were done did you tell her to kiss your penis and thank the juicy juicy for the juicy occasion?

 

[Frisky]

my beau made me cum last night over 8 times and this am over 3 times... and still... I don't tell him what to do and won't tell him what to do. If I don't like what he does then that whom he is, I move on. Simple as that. If you allow someone to change you then you will have that in your mind forever. You are who you are and only change because you want to change. A relationship won't work otherwise.

 

[seaking420]

://www.metacafe.com/watch/36559...e_untold_truth/

Love this

 

[Sub-Zero]

Dump her go for that athletic chic you told me about that one arm rows 90's that is my kinda chic.

lololol

 

[Sub-Zero]

I don't see it AT ALL as her wanting control! Sounds to me like she cares about you and cares about her future with you. No one wants to be with someone who destroys themselves with any form of drugs.
Whether it be 2 weeks or 2 months, she is looking out for her future. She sounds like a smart girl.
But like someone else here said, don't change for her, change for you. And don't be angry if she walks, she has the right to want what she wants also

thats the other side, but its the way it seems to have been brought up, was it an order, ? if so fuck that, hes the boss, not her

 

[Sub-Zero]

my beau made me cum last night over 8 times and this am over 3 times... and still... I don't tell him what to do and won't tell him what to do. If I don't like what he does then that whom he is, I move on. Simple as that. If you allow someone to change you then you will have that in your mind forever. You are who you are and only change because you want to change. A relationship won't work otherwise.

wow...did you read what you wrote?

im not even gunna say it




EDIT: did you mean what to do in bed, or what to do in life, cause i read it as in reference to making u cum u wont tell him what to do in bed, but if he does something in bed u dont like, u move onto the next guy.....

if that isnt what u meant then my bad

 

[biteme]

She knew, or she at least always suspected I had been juicing. I guess her uncle was a heavy AAS user and has a whole bunch of complications from it and is in bad shape now.

I dont know what possessed me the other day, somehow they got brought up and I ended up telling her. Sometimes in some situations I just cant help but be honest about things. She told me she had a good idea that I had done them in the past but didnt think I was 'weak' enough to still be doing them. We went onto discuss body issues and what not.

She basically said that I can do whatever I want, but if I do them she's not gonna be with me. She doesnt want to go through health issues down the road and any other thing that might become a problem with using AAS.

I cant convince her otherwise...I care too much about her...I'm in quite a predicament here.

If you're taking them illegally, she's right and I don't blame her.

 

[Bikini Mod]

If you're taking them illegally, she's right and I don't blame her.

Ummmm unless the guy has a hookup with a doc that will perscribe them KNOWING that he is using them for bodybuilding thus circumventing the "legality issue" then I dont see how ANYONE in the US can use them "legally".

Whether it is right or wrong the use of anabolics for enhancing one's physical performance whether for pro or hobby-ists is ILLEGAL.

What is your point?

 

[Mr. dB]

DOOD.... this is such an accident waiting to happen. 2mths and already a control issue... Imagine a few more months down the road. She'll control the toilet paper and the toothpaste.

Run... Run fast and don't look back.

Frisky is right on the money.

 

[jnevin]

Dude, she has valid concerns about you and your health, meaning she cares about you and likes the time you spend together. I'd say that 99% of women you run in to will have an issue with gear use, especially at the level you're saying you use it. I guess you just need to decide what's more important. Gear will always be there, but if you choose this over someone that you care about and could see a possible future with, that's a big "what if?" down the road.

 

[Frisky]

If you're taking them illegally, she's right and I don't blame her.

well... I've done studies for over 10yrs and my outcome is ........ that there is more good than bad if that said person uses responsibly. Just like ever other drug put out there. Anything you abuse will be your demise! I don't condone it nor do i promote it... but say, with the right info, and a person that respects it it can be an asset. If you abuse it, can be your failure. Before anyone even touches anything... beit legal or illegal ... research! There are scripts written daily that ruin peoples health... but they trust in that PHD... its all about your own research, your own life.

Now... don't you dare... and you know you and I are close... but don't you dare sit here and say steriod's are harmful if taken in a responsible manner...with the right info. Abuse can come in all forms

 

[Bikini Mod]

Dude, she has valid concerns about you and your health, meaning she cares about you and likes the time you spend together. I'd say that 99% of women you run in to will have an issue with gear use, especially at the level you're saying you use it. I guess you just need to decide what's more important. Gear will always be there, but if you choose this over someone that you care about and could see a possible future with, that's a big "what if?" down the road.

Good Lord - He has known this girl for TWO MONTHS! If anabolics were sooooooooo terrible EF would have fallen off the face of the web many years ago as most of the subscribers to this site (back in the day) were A/S users. To my knowledge the only EF'er who was dumb enough to kill himself did it with DNP and that was because he BLATANTLY IGNORED THE CAREFULL INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN HIM FOR ITS USE. And DNP is NOT an anabolic.

But as I am not the resident EF Historian, I could be wrong. Though highly unlikely as most of us would have recognized if all the juicers would have started dropping like flies and there would be maybe two of us "left" to talk to e-talk to each other.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HEROINE OR CRACK.

If she is "the one" then I suggest he abandon everything he did before he came to know her and get married yesterday.

Or.... not.

 

[jnevin]

Good Lord - He has known this girl for TWO MONTHS! If anabolics were sooooooooo terrible EF would have fallen off the face of the web many years ago as most of the subscribers to this site (back in the day) were A/S users. To my knowledge the only EF'er who was dumb enough to kill himself did it with DNP and that was because he BLATANTLY IGNORED THE CAREFULL INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN HIM FOR ITS USE. And DNP is NOT an anabolic.

But as I am not the resident EF Historian, I could be wrong. Though highly unlikely as most of us would have recognized if all the juicers would have started dropping like flies and there would be maybe two of us "left" to talk to e-talk to each other.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HEROINE OR CRACK.

If she is "the one" then I suggest he abandon everything he did before he came to know her and get married yesterday.

Or.... not.

I know. I use them, for chrissake, so obviously I don't think they're that bad. It's just that a lot of people look at them the same way they look at cocaine. I don't use the latter anymore, but I know plenty of people that are casual users that have never had problems with it. I also don't know too many people that will get into a relationship with someone that uses cocaine.

There's no way to know if she's "the one", I'm just saying that this girl won't be the only one to have an issue with this.

 

[Frisky]

I know. I use them, for chrissake, so obviously I don't think they're that bad. It's just that a lot of people look at them the same way they look at cocaine. I don't use the latter anymore, but I know plenty of people that are casual users that have never had problems with it. I also don't know too many people that will get into a relationship with someone that uses cocaine.

There's no way to know if she's "the one", I'm just saying that this girl won't be the only one to have an issue with this.

NO.... of course not... but you know a test addict? really... do you?

Not the fact that she is worried .... the fact that 2 months into a relationship and she's throwing this out is what i'd be worried about. She apparently has a control issue, and they are not married... engaged... nada... 2 freaking months. I could understand if marriage, home, kids, were involved.. but fugging please. He's setting himself up for a relationship with a control freak, that never works.

 

[blueta2]

People help people change in good and bad ways. Has someone in your life not played a positive role for you to change?
Sometimes ultimatums help us see the fault of our ways.
This girl does not sound like she is trying to control him, she sounds like she is honestly concerned for her future.
ANY responsible woman would not want to be with anyone who abuses their body. (Yes BM, it's not heroin or crack, but still destroys the body).
Maybe she just honesty cares for him and really wants him to not take that destructive route.

 

[Bikini Mod]

NO.... of course not... but you know a test addict? really... do you?

Not the fact that she is worried .... the fact that 2 months into a relationship and she's throwing this out is what i'd be worried about. She apparently has a control issue, and they are not married... engaged... nada... 2 freaking months. I could understand if marriage, home, kids, were involved.. but fugging please. He's setting himself up for a relationship with a control freak, that never works.

Couldnt have said it better myself.

I like the line "she MADE two other dudes quit smoking pot" as if the anabolics and pot were anywhere NEAR in the same category.

You can't make anyone do anything. Not even when you are married. You can, however, say, "I dont like this type of behavior. If you continue to engage in it (regardless of what it is) then I dont want to be around you."

So I will just reiterate my original statement. Either he quit using to please this girl or he send her on her merry way.

I dont see what the problem is here. He has known the girl for two freaking months.

 

[Bikini Mod]

People help people change in good and bad ways. Has someone in your life not played a positive role for you to change?
Sometimes ultimatums help us see the fault of our ways.
This girl does not sound like she is trying to control him, she sounds like she is honestly concerned for her future.
ANY responsible woman would not want to be with anyone who abuses their body. (Yes BM, it's not heroin or crack, but still destroys the body).
Maybe she just honesty cares for him and really wants him to not take that destructive route.

I understand what you are saying from a "feelings" standpoint but believe it or not anabolics do not destroy the body. They do (in many circumstances) have legitimate uses and actually CONTRIBUTE to the health of people as they spare precious muscle mass that would waste otherwise.

If she doesnt want to be with him because he is using then it is her right to say that she doesnt want to be with him. Just as it is her right to say that she no longer wants to continue to see him because he is habitually late or lacks manners or she just plane old tired of him and lost interest.

I really dont see why this is such a complicate issue.

She has a right to her opinion and he has a right to let her exercise her freedom.

 

[jnevin]

NO.... of course not... but you know a test addict? really... do you?

Not the fact that she is worried .... the fact that 2 months into a relationship and she's throwing this out is what i'd be worried about. She apparently has a control issue, and they are not married... engaged... nada... 2 freaking months. I could understand if marriage, home, kids, were involved.. but fugging please. He's setting himself up for a relationship with a control freak, that never works.

I know people that refuse to come off because they have an unhealthy image of themselves. They won't do less that 500 mgs/ wk, so yeah, I know people that are hooked in a sense. I think most people that abuse substances have more of an issue with themselves than the drug they use to self medicate.

What this girl sees is behavior she doesn't like and doesn't want to be around. She knows enough about what she does and doesn't want to say that steroid use isn't something that's acceptable to her. She has control of her own life and won't settle for less than she expects. I don't think she's trying to control him, I think she's saying what she's not ok with. Same as if he decides to keep using it and lets her go.

 

[Frisky]

People help people change in good and bad ways. Has someone in your life not played a positive role for you to change?
Sometimes ultimatums help us see the fault of our ways.
This girl does not sound like she is trying to control him, she sounds like she is honestly concerned for her future.
ANY responsible woman would not want to be with anyone who abuses their body. (Yes BM, it's not heroin or crack, but still destroys the body).
Maybe she just honesty cares for him and really wants him to not take that destructive route.

education about aas.. please! Any substance you give your body can be a demise... if given in a manner that is overboard. You can overdose on motrin...

Anabolics can be either your friend or your foe... depending on how serious you take it and the time and research you put into it. AAS has been given such a bad rap, its sad... How about methadone, xanex, etc... the ones that countless number of people are given and get addicted to and end up in rehab or dying? I have a sibling that almost died twice due to precription meds... SO?

anything you take into your body can be harmful if you go overboard and don't do reasearch on it. Bottom line... Anything!

 

[Frisky]

I know people that refuse to come off because they have an unhealthy image of themselves. They won't do less that 500 mgs/ wk, so yeah, I know people that are hooked in a sense. I think most people that abuse substances have more of an issue with themselves than the drug they use to self medicate.

What this girl sees is behavior she doesn't like and doesn't want to be around. She knows enough about what she does and doesn't want to say that steroid use isn't something that's acceptable to her. She has control of her own life and won't settle for less than she expects. I don't think she's trying to control him, I think she's saying what she's not ok with. Same as if he decides to keep using it and lets her go.

and there is the X and the Y.... her unwilling to educate herself and help overall and his unwillig to give up his lifestyle. Therefore there isn't a match made... right? My statement is.. you accept those for whom they are, if you actually falll for that person you accept faults as well as everything else. You can't change someone with out their willing to be changed... waste of time.

Not that her concerne is an issue ... her concerne after 2 weeks is an issue. Really... do you actually from that much of an relationship with anyone after two weeks? If she does... well.. sorry but he needs to drop that like a sack of potato's... just way to soo for a solid bond with anyone. How do you get to know someone in 2 freaking weeks... much less tell them you want them to do this or that and not do this or that.

She has not given enough time in the relationship to start throwing this out at all. If she is against it and knows he does it and wants to throw it all away... well so beit. But to ask him to stop being him on a hope and a wish that they will make it is silly. 4-5 months maybe.... 2 weeks.... I'd tell her to get a life and a train a dog.

 

[SpyWizard]

oh yeah, made her cum last night. Soaked my sheets. Forgot to throw the towel down.

I havent figured out what I'm gonna do yet, but I thank everyone for their insight; even if it was half assed shit talking.

ummm.. no i was honest...

 

[Gambino]

well... I've done studies for over 10yrs and my outcome is ........ that there is more good than bad if that said person uses responsibly. Just like ever other drug put out there. Anything you abuse will be your demise! I don't condone it nor do i promote it... but say, with the right info, and a person that respects it it can be an asset. If you abuse it, can be your failure. Before anyone even touches anything... beit legal or illegal ... research! There are scripts written daily that ruin peoples health... but they trust in that PHD... its all about your own research, your own life.

Now... don't you dare... and you know you and I are close... but don't you dare sit here and say steriod's are harmful if taken in a responsible manner...with the right info. Abuse can come in all forms

lol at junior physicans
10 yr study

 

[Frisky]

lol at junior physicans
10 yr study

i'n no damn expert sugar... and I learn every day... but before i degrade any substance I sure will know the ins and outs of it. Before I even decideded to get into bb, I was doing research for my x, and helping him out. asking questions, studies.. etc. So NO, not an expert.. but I sure the hell know more than this broad.

 

[Gambino]

i'n no damn expert sugar... and I learn every day... but before i degrade any substance I sure will know the ins and outs of it. Before I even decideded to get into bb, I was doing research for my x, and helping him out. asking questions, studies.. etc. So NO, not an expert.. but I sure the hell know more than this broad.

do you really think a 10 yr study will reveal all the sides of any drug?
do you really think you are qualified to make a medical study?
i don't think so

 

[Turd Ferguson]

shes cheating on you!

 

[jh1]

shes cheating on you!

It's about time someone point out the obvious.

 

[Frisky]

do you really think a 10 yr study will reveal all the sides of any drug?
do you really think you are qualified to make a medical study?
i don't think so

i'm by far qualified to make any medical study... never said I'm all pro at this but at least I put my time in and do research... far from what the mast majority of people do. And does she have any idea the pro's and con's of aas? I'm sure she doesn't... Just like the media and the rest of the people whom fall into that bracket... she has no damn idea. There are many of drugs that can be a foe or a friend... many of drugs that are given a bad rep due to abuse.

I don't condone or push the use of any drug... so don't misconstrue my post. I don't rely on media to form an opinion for me, I don't rely on a phd to trust that all will be just fine (we know how that has turned out due to the incentives with the drug co's ) I do my own research and decided if what I put into my body is worth the risk. Thats all I am saying... You or anyone... whom trust the word of one person to the risk of your health is a fool. Our medical issues are becoming more like our political issues these days... Its not about the product its about the reward.

 

[Gambino]

i'm by far qualified to make any medical study... never said I'm all pro at this but at least I put my time in and do research... far from what the mast majority of people do. And does she have any idea the pro's and con's of aas? I'm sure she doesn't... Just like the media and the rest of the people whom fall into that bracket... she has no damn idea. There are many of drugs that can be a foe or a friend... many of drugs that are given a bad rep due to abuse.

I don't condone or push the use of any drug... so don't misconstrue my post. I don't rely on media to form an opinion for me, I don't rely on a phd to trust that all will be just fine (we know how that has turned out due to the incentives with the drug co's ) I do my own research and decided if what I put into my body is worth the risk. Thats all I am saying... You or anyone... whom trust the word of one person to the risk of your health is a fool. Our medical issues are becoming more like our political issues these days... Its not about the product its about the reward.

what pros are their for a 22 yr old man to take over a gram a week of aas?
you do understand that a ten yr period is a bit short to make a qualified assesment of side effects. even such dangerous products as tobacco don't produce sides untill well after ten yrs.

 

[Frisky]

what pros are their for a 22 yr old man to take over a gram a week of aas?
you do understand that a ten yr period is a bit short to make a qualified assesment of side effects. even such dangerous products as tobacco don't produce sides untill well after ten yrs.

I don't know his age... or his situation... My statement was that after 2 weeks of dating a guy giving an ultimatum was assine. I am not here to give advice on AAS nor do i want to. I don't nor do I want to know his situation... and if it is more than just recreation... doubt after 2 weeks she understand it also.

Like I said I don't condone it, never will... but I do promote the fact that you learn everything you can about any substance you put into your body.

As far as the 10 yr... well... aas has been used in other studies (moderated in medical studies for other usess) and with moderation I've yet to find a horrible situation. Like i stated, any drug used overboard can be your foe... high blood pressure, stroke...etc. It is up to a person as an individual to make that decision. I was administered cortico steriod's more than one time and refused to take them due to the horrible side effects... but yea... I did my own studies before I put that damn pill in my mouth. Doc wasn't all that happy but hey, its my body.

Im not (by far) stating i know all... hell, learn more daily... so don't take my post out of context and make it seem that way. My post was directed to her making an assumption on his use with out knowing anything about it besides her bad issue with her uncle and projecting that on to him... and to add on to that after only 2 freaking weeks of dating.

 

[jnevin]

I don't know his age... or his situation... My statement was that after 2 weeks of dating a guy giving an ultimatum was assine. I am not here to give advice on AAS nor do i want to. I don't nor do I want to know his situation... and if it is more than just recreation... doubt after 2 weeks she understand it also.

Like I said I don't condone it, never will... but I do promote the fact that you learn everything you can about any substance you put into your body.

As far as the 10 yr... well... aas has been used in other studies (moderated in medical studies for other usess) and with moderation I've yet to find a horrible situation. Like i stated, any drug used overboard can be your foe... high blood pressure, stroke...etc. It is up to a person as an individual to make that decision. I was administered cortico steriod's more than one time and refused to take them due to the horrible side effects... but yea... I did my own studies before I put that damn pill in my mouth. Doc wasn't all that happy but hey, its my body.

Im not (by far) stating i know all... hell, learn more daily... so don't take my post out of context and make it seem that way. My post was directed to her making an assumption on his use with out knowing anything about it besides her bad issue with her uncle and projecting that on to him... and to add on to that after only 2 freaking weeks of dating.

Well, it's two months they've been together, so I'm sure there is some sort of bond. Not like one a year old obviously, but whatever. You seem to be missing my point. Her concerns are valid. You can research it all you want, but heavy use of any drug including gear will have negative long term effects. She has someone in her life that has experienced this shit. If you were a couple of months into it with your guy and started to realize you had feelings for him and he started using drugs that you don't like to be around, what would do? If it were me, I'd tell a girl it's not something I approve of and something I don't want to be around. If she'd keep using it, she can find someone to be with. If I liked her, I'd tell her that. If I didn't I'd drop her.

 

[Frisky]

Well, it's two months they've been together, so I'm sure there is some sort of bond. Not like one a year old obviously, but whatever. You seem to be missing my point. Her concerns are valid. You can research it all you want, but heavy use of any drug including gear will have negative long term effects. She has someone in her life that has experienced this shit. If you were a couple of months into it with your guy and started to realize you had feelings for him and he started using drugs that you don't like to be around, what would do? If it were me, I'd tell a girl it's not something I approve of and something I don't want to be around. If she'd keep using it, she can find someone to be with. If I liked her, I'd tell her that. If I didn't I'd drop her.

2 mths... or 2 weeks... either or... still short term. I thought I read two weeks then again i am scattered with work and such right now so may have read it wrong. And I agree... if she give that to him and he doesn't want to give it up then move on. But making a decision upon an ultimatum is no way to have a strong base to a relationship...

edit... it was 2 mths... still... way to early to base a relationship and make demands. and BTW... that is just my.02

 

[Gambino]

But making a decision upon an ultimatum is no way to have a strong base to a relationship...

having a partner who does things you do not approve of is no way to have a strong relationship

 

[jnevin]

having a partner who does things you do not approve of is no way to have a strong relationship

+1

 

[Frisky]

having a partner who does things you do not approve of is no way to have a strong relationship

agree... so move on! you think an ultimatum makes things any better? Trust me.. from experience.. its not. in the end its not.

 

[jnevin]

2 mths... or 2 weeks... either or... still short term. I thought I read two weeks then again i am scattered with work and such right now so may have read it wrong. And I agree... if she give that to him and he doesn't want to give it up then move on. But making a decision upon an ultimatum is no way to have a strong base to a relationship...

If she knew going into it that he used, I think it would be quite a bit different, but he started his cycle recently. This ultimatum applies to herself too. She doesn't want him doing it because she's concerned, not just to get him to stop doing shit.

 

[Frisky]

If she knew going into it that he used, I think it would be quite a bit different, but he started his cycle recently. This ultimatum applies to herself too. She doesn't want him doing it because she's concerned, not just to get him to stop doing shit.

and that is fine.. she is against it! then move on... Can you change someone? Seriously... you think you can change someone with an if you don't then... line? It may work for a week or two but even as he stated doing it behind her back... He has to want to do this for himself and thats the bottom line. If he changes himself for her there will be other things that come up in the future. I don't think she is wrong for her concern, but voice that concern and allow the 2nd party to make that decision... if in the end you don't get what you want then walk, but don't attempt to try to change sommeone. It doesn't work.

 

[jh1]

having a partner who does things you do not approve of is no way to have a strong relationship

Do you approve of your g/f's vegetarian ways?

Just her whole granola attitude?

LOL.. just busting your balls.

 

[heatherrae]

Sounds like it boils down to whatever you choose to be more important the girl or the roids. It's something only you can answer.

 

[Frisky]

Do you approve of your g/f's vegetarian ways?

Just her whole granola attitude?

LOL.. just busting your balls.

lol

bin-nuts just has to push this beyond the whole... she expects someone to change because of her issues thing. I still him though

I wouldn't expect or request someone to change for me... that is just another accident waiting to happen. then along comes blame and blah blah blah...

I was in an 11 yr relationship in which i was changed for him... miserable but was someone whom not only me but friends and family noticed I was different. Nothing major... just my bubbly friendly ways.. I became secluded and withdrawn from family and friends... WHY... to please him! Did it work? NO... I hated myself, and couldn't take it anylonger and went back to my roots... he couldn't take it and it ended in divorce.

Thus I say, change for you not for her...esp only after 2 mths... I don't know your issues your cycle.. etc.. I don't desire to know so... but in a nut shell, a change is a change. And just do it for you or else you will always hold that against her or anyone else whom demands you be other than you are.

 

[Gambino]

lol

bin-nuts just has to push this beyond the whole... she expects someone to change because of her issues thing. I still him though

I wouldn't expect or request someone to change for me... that is just another accident waiting to happen. then along comes blame and blah blah blah...

I was in an 11 yr relationship in which i was changed for him... miserable but was someone whom not only me but friends and family noticed I was different. Nothing major... just my bubbly friendly ways.. I became secluded and withdrawn from family and friends... WHY... to please him! Did it work? NO... I hated myself, and couldn't take it anylonger and went back to my roots... he couldn't take it and it ended in divorce.

Thus I say, change for you not for her...esp only after 2 mths... I don't know your issues your cycle.. etc.. I don't desire to know so... but in a nut shell, a change is a change. And just do it for you or else you will always hold that against her or anyone else whom demands you be other than you are.

babes i feel like arguing more

please don't get offended
but if this topic was about any other drug, you'd be in total agreeance with his (ua) broad.
if she said she he had to quit drinking because he drank too much, you'd agree.
if she said he had to quit huffing glue because he did it too much, you'd agree.
the only reason why you disagree is because the drug in question is one you either use or support...so therefore you feel defensive.
i know how it is to get defensive about drugs...if this was about weed, i'd proly be offering UA different advice, due to my own defensiveness.

 

[heatherrae]

babes i feel like arguing more

please don't get offended
but if this topic was about any other drug, you'd be in total agreeance with his (ua) broad.
if she said she he had to quit drinking because he drank too much, you'd agree.
if she said he had to quit huffing glue because he did it too much, you'd agree.
the only reason why you disagree is because the drug in question is one you either use or support...so therefore you feel defensive.
i know how it is to get defensive about drugs...if this was about weed, i'd proly be offering UA different advice, due to my own defensiveness.

lmao @ "agreeance."

 

[jnevin]

babes i feel like arguing more

please don't get offended
but if this topic was about any other drug, you'd be in total agreeance with his (ua) broad.
if she said she he had to quit drinking because he drank too much, you'd agree.
if she said he had to quit huffing glue because he did it too much, you'd agree.
the only reason why you disagree is because the drug in question is one you either use or support...so therefore you feel defensive.
i know how it is to get defensive about drugs...if this was about weed, i'd proly be offering UA different advice, due to my own defensiveness.

I really don't think this girl's saying he has to change. She's saying she's not ok with steroid use, and that it's not going to be anywhere in her life. She said it as soon as it came up.

 

[Gambino]

lmao @ "agreeance."

lol
Main Entry: agreeance
Part of Speech: n
Definition: the act of agreeing
Example: Usage of the site constitutes agreeance with these terms.
Usage: considered obsolete and a bastardization of 'agreement'

the black sheep of the english language

 

[Frisky]

man bino,... I typed all kinds of shizzle out... and lost it.. dammit

lol

i feel ya..

I'm not hard on the illegal drug use, more of the being so dominating after only 2 mths... but like I said thats just me. I wouldn't pursue a relationship if I felt the need to change someone.

 

[Gambino]

I really don't think this girl's saying he has to change. She's saying she's not ok with steroid use, and that it's not going to be anywhere in her life. She said it as soon as it came up.

agree
it's not like ua=steroids
he's not changing who he is, just the substances he injects
habits are not who people truely are
speaking of which, i'm sparking one up

 

[alien amp pharm]

man bino,... I typed all kinds of shizzle out... and lost it.. dammit

Hate to be the one to tell you, but you lost it a long time ago toots.

 

[Frisky]

babes i feel like arguing more

please don't get offended
but if this topic was about any other drug, you'd be in total agreeance with his (ua) broad.
if she said she he had to quit drinking because he drank too much, you'd agree.
if she said he had to quit huffing glue because he did it too much, you'd agree.
the only reason why you disagree is because the drug in question is one you either use or support...so therefore you feel defensive.
i know how it is to get defensive about drugs...if this was about weed, i'd proly be offering UA different advice, due to my own defensiveness.

well... if the others came in to play... drugs, drinking, etc... and she had concern then that is a whole other play field.
Would she stick by him for rehab...etc? If he indeed agreed to rid his life of those would she be around.

So... here it is... Doubt 2 mts into any relationship will give the strenth to pursue a relationship that is so demanding. Right? I will be honest and tell you honestly... i'd prolly bail because I don't need the extra drama in my life, unless of course he had amazing sexual acts.../ then ....lol i kidd

I don't even know where Im headed with this besides the fact that you can't change someone they have to want to change their selves... and I will leave it at that. I'm going ride a cowboy.... I mean train a horse

 

[Whiskey]

Hmmm... you know what you need to do orb. Keep going along as you were. End of story. If she leaves, she leaves. I wouldn't lie about it though... yeah I would.

Prolly would have never told in the first place. Known her for two months, heck no I wouldn't have told. Not knowing her very long, she might be the kind to go narc you out.

Whiskey

 

[Mr. dB]

Prolly would have never told in the first place. Known her for two months, heck no I wouldn't have told. Not knowing her very long, she might be the kind to go narc you out.

That's step number two. If there's any resistance to the ultimatum, she'll raise it to a threat.

 

[the_clockwork]

keep us updated

 

[Arabian]

Find a new girlfriend

 

[biteme]

babes i feel like arguing more

please don't get offended
but if this topic was about any other drug, you'd be in total agreeance with his (ua) broad.
if she said she he had to quit drinking because he drank too much, you'd agree.
if she said he had to quit huffing glue because he did it too much, you'd agree.
the only reason why you disagree is because the drug in question is one you either use or support...so therefore you feel defensive.
i know how it is to get defensive about drugs...if this was about weed, i'd proly be offering UA different advice, due to my own defensiveness.

Correct. That's why I said I understood the position of the girl, even though I've used for a long time. It's often illegal and although I don't agree that it should be, that still constitutes risks as well as the possible health risks. Tough choice to make.

 

[biteme]

well... I've done studies for over 10yrs and my outcome is ........ that there is more good than bad if that said person uses responsibly. Just like ever other drug put out there. Anything you abuse will be your demise! I don't condone it nor do i promote it... but say, with the right info, and a person that respects it it can be an asset. If you abuse it, can be your failure. Before anyone even touches anything... beit legal or illegal ... research! There are scripts written daily that ruin peoples health... but they trust in that PHD... its all about your own research, your own life.

Now... don't you dare... and you know you and I are close... but don't you dare sit here and say steriod's are harmful if taken in a responsible manner...with the right info. Abuse can come in all forms

It's because it's illegal even though I don't agree that it should be. I understand the girl's position because of legality issues and also health concerns. I agree with your post though.