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Im going to take 4 iu's of gh on training days(m/t/th/fr) with decca and test and maybe some insulin. Everyone tells me this is great for fat loss but will i get some good muscle gains to. I am doing it for 6 months. Im 29 5 foot 7 and 13 stone. I dont carry much body fat im quite lean. Thanks for your help guys.
 
It could be a great cycle, if you do it right. Insulin is nothing to fuck with if you don't know what your doing. Diet will be key for fat loss.
 
You may have some sides like carpal tunnel syndrome at that dose.

Also GH and prolactin are very structurally similar, so you may also get gyno.

If you really MUST take GH (I think it is over-rated) and insulin (also not necessary), then I would reduce the dose and maybe increase it.

You may also want to have some money set aside for plastic surgery to chisel off the brow ridges and large jaw you may get.
 
Tatyana said:
You may have some sides like carpal tunnel syndrome at that dose.

Also gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - and prolactin are very structurally similar, so you may also get gynecomastia.

If you really MUST take GH (I think it is over-rated) and insulin (also not necessary), then I would reduce the dose and maybe increase it.

You may also want to have some money set aside for plastic surgery to chisel off the brow ridges and large jaw you may get.



at that dose you wont see those sides... so dont worry about that non-sense..
 
Faizakafez said:
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at that dose you wont see those sides... so dont worry about that non-sense..


Some have experienced these sides.

Best to be informed rather than moaning later when you look like Cro-Magnon man
 
well if you have not run it you can't truly comment..

people have died from insulin use and dnp etc...there is always a case..

at that dose those sides are HIGHLY unlikely..
 
Faizakafez said:
well if you have not run it you can't truly comment..

people have died from insulin use and dnp - dinitrophenol - etc...there is always a case..

at that dose those sides are HIGHLY unlikely..
personal experience! do your homework on slin.at some point YOU WILL go into a hypoglycemic state which is a few steps away from insulin induced coma.i would be dead right now if i hadnt read a article by Flex Wheeler years ago and did tons of reserch.it made me fat and almost killed me.when you get brave and decide to go from 5iu to 6iu BOOM! youve taken too much.better have a bag of chipsahoy cookies on hand.
 
Tatyana said:
Some have experienced these sides.

Best to be informed rather than moaning later when you look like Cro-Magnon man

Really?
Those sides from 4IU's for 6 months?
Do you have any pictures and names, I have been working on a study for GH and would like to discuss their symptoms etc.
 
Tatyana said:
Some have experienced these sides.

Best to be informed rather than moaning later when you look like Cro-Magnon man

Wow, what is happening with this site? Its the second post i read and i have to whine again. Its almost like im asking for red karma lol. Anyway, scaring someone into thinking he will develop acromegaly at 4 ius of gh a day is nonsense. Show me any study proving otherwise. If you want to scare them rightfully, discuss insulin sensitivity or tumor growth acceleration, you know something that would be possible. :p
 
theslime said:
Wow, what is happening with this site? Its the second post i read and i have to whine again. Its almost like im asking for red karma lol. Anyway, scaring someone into thinking he will develop acromegaly at 4 ius of gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - a day is nonsense. Show me any study proving otherwise. If you want to scare them rightfully, discuss insulin sensitivity or tumor growth acceleration, you know something that would be possible. :p
Im probably going to get run off for this(hope not) but most people here take waaaay to many drugs.then try to counter them with more drugs.personally I think some of you exagerate a bit.Im an older guy but ive been competing since i was 18.im 43 now.ive never took the amounts of drugs some of you have taken.you take all these drugs then ask how to keep your nuts from shrinking,your hair from falling out,avoid limp dick(thats a new one)my blood work said i had elavated enzymes(no shit...duuuhhh).my training partner is a top level national competitor(he will be pro next year for sure).he takes a fourth of what ive seen here.ive never had a single side effect except gyno and who doesnt?OK now you can throw me under the bus or ban me.ive said my piece.
 
theblondebomber said:
Im probably going to get run off for this(hope not) but most people here take waaaay to many drugs.then try to counter them with more drugs.personally I think some of you exagerate a bit.Im an older guy but ive been competing since i was 18.im 43 now.ive never took the amounts of drugs some of you have taken.you take all these drugs then ask how to keep your nuts from shrinking,your hair from falling out,avoid limp dick(thats a new one)my blood work said i had elavated enzymes(no shit...duuuhhh).my training partner is a top level national competitor(he will be pro next year for sure).he takes a fourth of what ive seen here.ive never had a single side effect except gynecomastia and who doesnt?OK now you can throw me under the bus or ban me.ive said my piece.

You know what? I absolutely agree with you. Many use way too much. They want it all right now and dont even train properly. Then get surprised with side effects. If youre competing though, its tough without a decent amount of gear, even with good genetics. The guys are good...
 
goin on 4T said:
Really?
Those sides from 4IU's for 6 months?
Do you have any pictures and names, I have been working on a study for gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - and would like to discuss their symptoms etc.
ive read on some board of a person having them sides jaw growth ..forehead enlargment at 4iu .... very very rare though at that dose but deff not impossible ..insulin i would never use ... and thats sayin alot cause i have even used dnp on a few occasions
 
theslime said:
You know what? I absolutely agree with you. Many use way too much. They want it all right now and dont even train properly. Then get surprised with side effects. If youre competing though, its tough without a decent amount of gear, even with good genetics. The guys are good...
Believe it or not ive learned alot and im here to stay.be safe,be cool,get big as f**k!!!
 
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