GH... best every day or EOD?

[informed09]

I guess that depends on who you ask. I dont run gh for fat burning purposes (I think there are better options for that). If I had to guess, I'd say that overall results (mass gains and lipolysis) at 8iu EOD would probably be around 20% better than 4iu/day.

That is interesting to know that you can get around 20% better results at about the same weekly dose. What is the shortest amount of time you would run gh? And if doing it every other day would you split up the dose( one in the morn, one in afternoon)?

 

[Outtlaw]

That is interesting to know that you can get around 20% better results at about the same weekly dose. What is the shortest amount of time you would run gh? And if doing it every other day would you split up the dose( one in the morn, one in afternoon)?

I say that only because of the significant jump in dose. I dont think you would see any difference on alternate day dosing between 2 and 4iu. I think you'll see a slight difference between 4 and 8iu, and a moderate difference between 8 and 16iu.

How long would I run gh? That would depend on the dose I was using and the amount of risk I wanted to take with side effects. But for me 12-16wks is pretty much the minimum.

 

[informed09]

I say that only because of the significant jump in dose. I dont think you would see any difference on alternate day dosing between 2 and 4iu. I think you'll see a slight difference between 4 and 8iu, and a moderate difference between 8 and 16iu.

How long would I run gh? That would depend on the dose I was using and the amount of risk I wanted to take with side effects. But for me 12-16wks is pretty much the minimum.

One or two injections per day?

 

[Tux]

I would assume you would do 8iu/eod, and still divide it up, 4iu in the am, 4iu in the pm, but I could be totally wrong. SOMEbody please answer this last question!

 

[ed2005]

The study did infact conclude that the EOD (8 IUs) dosing schedule versus the ED (4 IUs) dosing schedule, based on the same weekly total, was more effective. The main difference would be the higher plasma concentrations achieved by the higher dosage. If one were to use the same weekly total, an EOD dosing schedule would be preferred, based upon the findings in that particular study. I doubt you will find too many people whom have attempted the EOD dosing schedule that can give an accurate and comparative analysis with the two different protocols. Regardless, if you are currently using an ED dosing schedule, switching to EOD should have no negative impact with respect to results. You might as well find out for yourself.

Jenetic

Sorry guys, there have never been studies done on adult athletes with respect to HGH...the studies refered to were done on growth hormone deficient children..to cut a long story short the EOD theory only arose due to the kids on EOD still having their small amount of natty GH after 2 years straight whilst those on ED (not 5/2) had natty shut down... Most BBs do not do 2 years straight and at 5/2 your natty GH is allowed the same restbite on the 2 as EOD.... IMO 5/2 rocks...
Ed

 

[Outtlaw]

Sorry guys, there have never been studies done on adult athletes with respect to HGH...the studies refered to were done on growth hormone deficient children..to cut a long story short the EOD theory only arose due to the kids on EOD still having their small amount of natty GH after 2 years straight whilst those on ED (not 5/2) had natty shut down... Most BBs do not do 2 years straight and at 5/2 your natty GH is allowed the same restbite on the 2 as EOD.... IMO 5/2 rocks...
Ed

The study I posted up was done on HIV/AIDS patients for building lean body mass. Which is exactly what we try to do as bodybuilders. But I do like the the 5 on 2 off dosing, and that's how I prefer to use gh.

 

[informed09]

The study I posted up was done on HIV/AIDS patients for building lean body mass. Which is exactly what we try to do as bodybuilders. But I do like the the 5 on 2 off dosing, and that's how I prefer to use gh.

I have heard good things with 5/2. but my question is should you do it once or twice a day? what time also? am/pm??

 

[ed2005]

I have heard good things with 5/2. but my question is should you do it once or twice a day? what time also? am/pm??

IMO, it depends on the dosage, anything over 3/4ius should be split....
You can also spot inject for fat reduction...100% fact... I experimented with chest fat....One side for a week and then marked the difference...the injected side had visably less fat than the other...I swaped round and bingo...the same...I also reconstitute with 2mls of bacs water...it dilutes the mix more and allieviates sides.... I also shoot 2 hours before training and not first thing in the morn...this alieviates the lethargy/tiredness sides...
Just my 2cents, hope it helps
Ed

 

[Outtlaw]

At the end of the day I really dont think it makes any difference. I'd just do whatever is easier for you. And if you're using insulin, then it's probably easier to dose your gh around the slin.

 

[informed09]

IMO, it depends on the dosage, anything over 3/4ius should be split....
You can also spot inject for fat reduction...100% fact... I experimented with chest fat....One side for a week and then marked the difference...the injected side had visably less fat than the other...I swaped round and bingo...the same...I also reconstitute with 2mls of bacs water...it dilutes the mix more and allieviates sides.... I also shoot 2 hours before training and not first thing in the morn...this alieviates the lethargy/tiredness sides...
Just my 2cents, hope it helps
Ed

What brand and doses do you/have you used? what is considered to be the best out there? I know peoples opinions will vary depending on what they used.