Getting some nasty PIP

[superturkey]

Im pinning tren e 1ml@200mg and test blend 0.4ml@400mg(long esters) twice a week.
And it f@cking hurts!
I pin in the side of my quad or top of my ass.
Im heating the juice in the syringe.
Im using 25g needle.
I inject slow.
I massage after withdrawl.

And im corked for 3 days, then guess what time to pin again.

Anything else i can do to reduce the cork?
One option may be to pin double the amount but only once a week.?? Or would this cork more?
Or do i just need to harden up and get use to permenante pain?

 

[bonacris]

Have you tried delts..

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[superturkey]

No ive never, id hate the thought of losing my arm for the day/s

 

[joeblow12345]

Those high dosage blends are often painful. It's hard to brew 400 mg a ml with little pip unless you have lots of experience. So go get you some sterile oil and dilute each shot with a ml of sterile oil. This should help some.

 

[imsqueak]

I'm having same problem. Finding some relief by sitting in heating pad 15 min before and 15 min after. Actually I sit on it every time I get on the computer now. Cut pain and muscle stiffness in half since I started doing this. Test 500 & Tren 250E here. Potent chit man.

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[Arabian]

The Test 400 is your problem, it probably has a high BA content. You can try and put a pin tip in the rubber stopper and placing it in your oven at 200 degrees for 15 minutes. This will more than likely evaporate the excess BA and it should then be easier to shoot. I have had to do this before with Test and it worked fine.

 

[superturkey]

The Test 400 is your problem, it probably has a high BA content. You can try and put a pin tip in the rubber stopper and placing it in your oven at 200 degrees for 15 minutes. This will more than likely evaporate the excess BA and it should then be easier to shoot. I have had to do this before with Test and it worked fine.

Good idea if i could get near an oven, what about a water bath of near boiling water. Should work.

 

[superturkey]

Those high dosage blends are often painful. It's hard to brew 400 mg a ml with little pip unless you have lots of experience. So go get you some sterile oil and dilute each shot with a ml of sterile oil. This should help some.

I thought about this. Does the extra amount of oil not cause corking as it is though? Or does sterile oil not cork at all?

 

[Potent]

delts by far are the safest and best way to pin, just don't pin on shoulder days at first. Month into my cycle the pain went away completely from pinning.

 

[Zinergy]

The Test 400 is your problem, it probably has a high BA content. You can try and put a pin tip in the rubber stopper and placing it in your oven at 200 degrees for 15 minutes. This will more than likely evaporate the excess BA and it should then be easier to shoot. I have had to do this before with Test and it worked fine.

I did this last night, but at 150 degrees for 15 minutes, and I have 0 pain now from damn near crippling pain.

Test e 250mg/ml, just fyi.

 

[goin on 4T]

Sorry Arabian but baking the ba out which is there to stop the growth of any bacteria is a bad idea.
If you do bake it add 2% ba back into vials.

 

[goin on 4T]

I did this last night, but at 150 degrees for 15 minutes, and I have 0 pain now from damn near crippling pain.

Test e 250mg/ml, just fyi.

Test e at 250 should not have any pain. Your source has low grade E.

 

[bonacris]

Test e at 250 should not have any pain. Your source has low grade E.

I have legit pharma grade test e is so fucking smooth. Hopefully my source will remain kind to me.

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[superturkey]

I did this last night, but at 150 degrees for 15 minutes, and I have 0 pain now from damn near crippling pain.

Test e 250mg/ml, just fyi.

No shit.. Must be the BA

 

[superturkey]

Sorry Arabian but baking the ba out which is there to stop the growth of any bacteria is a bad idea.
If you do bake it add 2% ba back into vials.

Oh man. Getting some differing points here.

 

[Arabian]

Good idea if i could get near an oven, what about a water bath of near boiling water. Should work.

Actually just place it in the oven, I know this works. Suggestion for next times is I would run Test Prop in Eo at 100 EOD and run Tren 100 . Very easy to shoot and just a little discomfort.

 

[Zinergy]

Since were on the topic, I baked my test at 150c for 15 min. It's still killing me 24 hours after should I bake again?

 

[superturkey]

Since were on the topic, I baked my test at 150c for 15 min. It's still killing me 24 hours after should I bake again?

You just mentioned before you have 0 pain. Whats happened!¡

 

[goin on 4T]

Since were on the topic, I baked my test at 150c for 15 min. It's still killing me 24 hours after should I bake again?

Did you vent it?

 

[Zinergy]

You just mentioned before you have 0 pain. Whats happened!¡

I pinned it at night, went to sleep and the whole next day it was fine until I slept again.

Yes, I vented it. Kinda stumped here I might just throw the shit out.

 

[RADAR]

I agree with arabian here, someone got lazy brewing it with too much BA content, remember some ovens run hotter than others, i would vent it and let the oven reach 200 before baking it again but! no longer than 5 min you need some BA to keep the gear sterile.

 

[RADAR]

Sorry Arabian but baking the ba out which is there to stop the growth of any bacteria is a bad idea.
If you do bake it add 2% ba back into vials.

The purpose of baking is to rid the bottle of excess alcohol just enough to lessen the content abit, it will still be sterile, and adding more Ba beck into the vial kind of defeats the purpose.

 

[Zinergy]

I'll give it another shot, fingers crossed this time.

 

[superturkey]

I pinned it at night, went to sleep and the whole next day it was fine until I slept again.

Yes, I vented it. Kinda stumped here I might just throw the shit out.

That sux its gotten that bad for you, i put my vials into a cup and poured boiling water in to the top of the glass. Stabbed in the 19g pins and left for 20 mins. I did a pin after that and my cork is very tolerable (so far) 36hrs after. And yet i still have pain in my ass from a pin i did a week ago! Pain which moved position aswell.

 

[UA_Iron]

It's a blend... it's probably 200mg test Cypionate and 200mg test enanthate.

It actually shouldn't be painful, it should hold with 2% BA and 20% BB. High quality test e should hold at 400mg/ml with just 2% BA.

My thoughts:
1. You could be someone who responds to some of the solvents in an undesirable manner. Maybe the carrier oil is producing some sort of allergic reaction or the BB is not something you're used to. Have you ran many cycles?
2. Test E could be of low quality like going on 4T stated. I've touched on this subject before, do a search.


People used to brew with 5% BA and not complain of the crippling they do now. I doubt its the BA content.

 

[superturkey]

It's a blend... it's probably 200mg test Cypionate and 200mg test enanthate.

It actually shouldn't be painful, it should hold with 2% BA and 20% BB. High quality test e should hold at 400mg/ml with just 2% BA.

My thoughts:
1. You could be someone who responds to some of the solvents in an undesirable manner. Maybe the carrier oil is producing some sort of allergic reaction or the BB is not something you're used to. Have you ran many cycles?
2. Test E could be of low quality like going on 4T stated. I've touched on this subject before, do a search.


People used to brew with 5% BA and not complain of the crippling they do now. I doubt its the BA content.

The blend is actually 4 esters. Cyp, enth, iso, undec.
I have pinned a fair few different compounds now. The only other thing that caused more pain was winny inject/oral. I quickly chose to consume orally.

After heating/venting the vials my last shot has been great. Very tolerable. 60 hrs later still fine. I think this is the solution, as long as the gear stays sterile im happy.

 

[superturkey]

The Test 400 is your problem, it probably has a high BA content. You can try and put a pin tip in the rubber stopper and placing it in your oven at 200 degrees for 15 minutes. This will more than likely evaporate the excess BA and it should then be easier to shoot. I have had to do this before with Test and it worked fine.

Thanks arabian for coming foward with the solution to my problem.
Fingers crossed the gear stays sterile.
But otherwise im a happy man.

 

[goin on 4T]

The purpose of baking is to rid the bottle of excess alcohol just enough to lessen the content abit, it will still be sterile, and adding more Ba beck into the vial kind of defeats the purpose.

I understand the process and the reason for venting. But there is a reason to have ba in the vial, which I am sure you know. To not have ba in a vial is worse than too much. It's a health and safety issue.

 

[goin on 4T]

I agree with this whole post.