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Getting Cut WITHOUT Cardio
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Makavelli
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When I was natural I was doing my first show. I got down to about 5% BF without ever doing cardio. The pros to it are you don't have to do cardio. The cons are you have to eat less. I now do cardio year round. I would rather do it and be able to eat more. I also find it essential now to get to very low bodyfat like around 3%.
gettnlarge01
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I workout faster to keep the heart rate up. Sex first thing in the morning is great to get the heart pumping fast. T-rex with tren ace and test did wonders for me.
silverbackn
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I have done 2 shows without doing any cardio. I dieted for 4 weeks for one of them. I think it depends on genetics and what kind of shape you are in. Like Mak said though, I would rather eat more and do a little cardio.
karachi183
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Diet and the correct compounds as stated above.... Unfortunatley you have to raise body temp and keep calories moderate but obviosuly high on the protein side. With that being said it'll be hard to gain size but you should maintain and rid urself of BF... Thus cutting up. I personally feel that when i incorporate cardio i loose specific muscle growth from training and i just lean out all together where as when i don't do any cardio and i hit the weights hard my body responds much better....
rykertest said:I think diet is the main key, but I do think cardio should always be done to some extent due to it's health benefits. Being cut is great and all, but if you get winded walking up stairs, that 6 pack ain't gonna save you from looking like a tool.
+1
I have done it with no cardio. I dont think its the best way.
I am fat now and trying to lean out. I def think Diet is key..
-NP
rykertest
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e6er said:1 Cycle of Tren, 1 very strict diet which probably effected my gains b/c of the lack of carbs in my diet. No cardio whatsoever. Started out 225 with a 38 inch waist, and 10 weeks later I was down to 208 with a 34 waist and what looks to be the beginning of a 6 pack.
what was your diet like?
rykertest said:
I switched up my diet every week. All of my carbs came from either wheat bread, oatmeal, or Low carb burrito wraps. I took in about 325 grams of protein, 40-50 carbs per day. The only thing I didn't do was track calories.
Diet #1
7:00am Breakfast
5 egg whites, 1 slice of Fat Free Cheddar, Thomas Light English Muffin, and a Protein shake with Skim milk.
9:30am Snack
Protein Bar - preferably Low Carb and High in Protein.
12:00pm Lunch –
I usually make a cheeseburger burrito with the items listed below. You can use ketchup or Mustard for flavor. You can also switch it up and use Ground Turkey, or Ground Chicken. I like to season the meat as well.
.75 pounds of lean ground beef
1 Mission Large Low Carb Burrito
1 slice of Fat Free cheese
Small salad with low fat dressing - Usually Italian.
2:30 Snack
Quaker Weight Control Oatmeal. (2 packets)
5:00 (pre-workout)
Protein Bar with a decent amount of Carbs.
6:00 (Post-Workout)
Protein Shake
7:30 Dinner
.75 pounds of lean ground beef
1 Mission Large Low Carb Burrito
1 slice of Fat Free cheese
Small salad with low fat dressing - Usually Italian.
Diet #2
7:00am Breakfast
Protein Shake and Quaker Weight Control Oatmeal (2 packets)
9:30am Snack
Protein Bar - preferably Low Carb and High in Protein.
12:00pm Lunch –
Chicken Breasts (seasoned) – usually have .75 pounds.
Mixed Veggies. 1 slice of wheat bread.
2:30 Snack
Chicken Breast (seasoned) – usually have .50 pounds.
Mixed Veggies, 1 slice of wheat bread.
5:00 (pre-workout)
Protein Bar with a decent amount of Carbs.
6:00 (Post-Workout)
Protein Shake
7:30 Dinner
Chicken Breasts (seasoned) – usually have .50 pounds.
Mixed Veggies
Diet #3
7:00am Breakfast
Protein Shake, 5 egg whites, 2 packets of Oatmeal.
9:30am Snack
Protein Bar - preferably Low Carb and High in Protein.
12:00pm Lunch –
Fish (seasoned) – usually have .75 pounds.
Mixed Veggies., and one slice of wheat bread.
2:30 Snack
2 packets of Weight Control Oatmeal.
5:00 (pre-workout)
Protein Bar with a decent amount of Carbs.
6:00 (Post-Workout)
Protein Shake
7:30 Dinner
Fish (seasoned) – usually have .75 pounds.
Mixed Veggies, and 1 slice of Wheat Bread.
one of amy past freinds who was a successful competitive California Bodybuilder who now owns a new gym chain he created was a firm beliver it not having to do cardio
he passes this on to his trainers
he was a normal bodybuilder who was not ecto, or mesomorphic persay
he always said to me "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie"
if I even saw him or his client do cardio it was a max 15 minutes after a workout.
the guy and his clients that were seriuos got shredded always when he followed his 10 week cutting diet
btw OFF AAS.......
he passes this on to his trainers
he was a normal bodybuilder who was not ecto, or mesomorphic persay
he always said to me "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie"
if I even saw him or his client do cardio it was a max 15 minutes after a workout.
the guy and his clients that were seriuos got shredded always when he followed his 10 week cutting diet
btw OFF AAS.......
The Iotola
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OMEGA said:
Do you remember the diet off the top of your head by any chance?
The Iotola said:
YES I DO
he was the one who introduced me to Glutamine Peptides,
so when I add this in the diet its not a "plug"
he did his diet for 10-12 week with NO DEVIATION WHATSO EVER, I will even post his exact split if you want it. ( I dont like his traiing philisophy in regard to lifting)
Meal one
1 large COFFE his only caffeine for the day
12 Eggs White with A-1 steak sauce and 2 pices of !2 grain Bread.
Workout around 10 AM
Meal 2
POST WORKOUT
7 grams of Creatine in apple juice
Meal 3
1.5 chicken Breast, brown Rice, and variuos green carb based vegitables
Meal 4
Optimum Protein Shake in Water with a good amount of Glutamine Peptides added
Meal 5
Salmon on lean Red Meat on a bed of greens, with light oil and lemon or some nice light seasoning.
HE DID THIS BY THE BOOK and NEVER DEVIATED
he trained 5 times a week mon-fri
Makavelli
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e6er said:Since he posted it in this Anabolic forum most of the answers are going to be related to anabolics.
Why? He didn't ask about using AAS and getting lean without cardio. My point being whether you need to do cardio to get really lean or not doesn't have to do with whether you use AAS or not. It has to do with the individual's genetics, metabolism, etc.
The Iotola
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OMEGA said:
wow...thats a dedicated diet, not only trying to muster down 12 egg whites which is a task in itself, but it seems like thats very little calories. Did he start to feel sluggish/weak towards the end? Any pre-workout stims/supps?
The Iotola said:
yes he did
I remember seeing him around week six and he was starting to feel it, which is why he swore by Glutamine Peptides
when I tried it, its was got me started in the Supp Ind
(true Story)
he only had the cup of Coffee in the AM
which is placed near his workout as you can see
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chazk
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the way i look at it is i strenghten and build my muscles why would i skip on strenghting the one major muscle that supplies my entire body with blood. cardio is a must i always run atleast 2 times a week min on a treadmill. sidewalk or even use a stepper. nothin i have found burns fat as fast as 30 minutes of cardio at 5:30 am 5 days a week. I can lose 15 lbs of unwanted fat and water in a month with little muscle loss as long as the diet is in checkOMEGA said:excellent and diverse opinion already
this thread should be good
I cant get cut with out cardio sorry omega wish i could.
rykertest
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OMEGA said:yes he did
I remember seeing him around week six and he was starting to feel it, which is why he swore by Glutamine Peptides
when I tried it, its was got me started in the Supp Ind
(true Story)
he only had the cup of Coffee in the AM
which is placed near his workout as you can see
SO lets say I was going to copy that diet but can only work out at 4PM every day, then how would that rearrange that eating plan?
rykertest said:
Bro he only had creatine post workout, and glutamine peptides once per day
oh and the coffee in the AM.
only thing to add would be some thermo, more coffee, or what I prefer Amplify02 prewokout....
only answering you in regard to his diet and what worked from what I saw
solidspine
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I hate cardio, but diet only does so much,
Done everything, clen, Dnp, T3,
Everyone is different, but for me, in addition to about 1.5 hours of lifting I need another 30 minutes on the bike, or running, some serious cardio.
It seems 10 times harder now that I am married, my wife is such a good cook and the temptation is always there.
I usually only do the cardio, when I am cutting, I just hate it. Love lifting and hate cardio, Interesting because I was a jogger for about 30 years before I started lifting.
Last comment, you can’t do cardio on DNP, simply to exhausting.
Good diet suggestions on this post.
Done everything, clen, Dnp, T3,
Everyone is different, but for me, in addition to about 1.5 hours of lifting I need another 30 minutes on the bike, or running, some serious cardio.
It seems 10 times harder now that I am married, my wife is such a good cook and the temptation is always there.
I usually only do the cardio, when I am cutting, I just hate it. Love lifting and hate cardio, Interesting because I was a jogger for about 30 years before I started lifting.
Last comment, you can’t do cardio on DNP, simply to exhausting.
Good diet suggestions on this post.
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odoyal rulez
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OMEGA said:congrats
my ex-wife used to burn water...true story.
acneman
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it seems to me that post workout should be the biggest meal since the calories consumed would be shuttled preferentially to muscle and not fat.OMEGA said:
can you cut without cardio?
yes
DNP
or
cut your calories
if you cut your calories you will lose muscle
if you take creatine only post workout without a meal you will waste away
body builders have been cutting and maintaining mass for many years
and it included cardio and ill bet not one competetive bodybuilder EVER skips a meal after a workout
im not sure whats going on here
I honestly think its so much better to do cardio and eat clean rather than no cardio and depleting carbs. Simply because your workouts are tiring and depressing without them, you lose muscle easier, and you have no motivation or energy to do anything because you are so tired. jus my opinion.
tonyroma said:
The Iotola
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tonyroma said:
Amen, on 50-60g of carbs/day I felt like I had every flu/hangover known to man while lifting. Wasnt worth it. Started to add clean carbs, and still hit the cardio every day for 40 min or so, works well.
