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would like to hear the boards views on this.
getting a post secondary education
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vinylgroover
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Education is the most important thing in life (besides your health). If you have the chance to study further, take it, some would kill just for a high school education.
It will open up your mind, eyes and ears much more than you already think.
It will open up your mind, eyes and ears much more than you already think.
mattcanning99
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vinylgroover said:
why is this? because "society says" it is what we are supposed to do in our brainwashed culture? i for one am extremely unhappy wasting my time in university, when i am held back from pursuing things i would enjoy (and make more money with) if i was not in school. some of the greatest people ive heard about did not get formally educated, they had two things, a plan, and ambition, that's all you need.
what is the point of learning with no intrinsic interest? that's right, there isnt one.
Night Fly
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mattcanning99 said:
A lot of people just enjoy going to school and learning new things...no matter what age they are. They don't do it because "society" says they should. It is the people who do it for THOSE reasons that shouldn't be doing it.
Some people aren't meant for school and some people are...but sadly enough...you can make a better living with a degree nowadays...that is...depending upon how you would like to live!
vinylgroover
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I never said an education will make you rich and famous. Education is about learning. If you then use those tools to become rich and famous, good for you.
You can make better money being a whore than almost anything else, but i think you'll find that most would trade their lifestyle for a decent education and job.
If you don't enjoy it then get out, but like me, i took it for granted when i was at uni, and thought, why the hell am i here. Five years later, i look back and think, gee i'm glad i stuck it out.
You can make better money being a whore than almost anything else, but i think you'll find that most would trade their lifestyle for a decent education and job.
If you don't enjoy it then get out, but like me, i took it for granted when i was at uni, and thought, why the hell am i here. Five years later, i look back and think, gee i'm glad i stuck it out.
naturally anabolic
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if you wish to survive comfortably in this world you have two choices after highschool, college of some sort or military...i think it has kinda gotten to the point where just a highschool education is not enough anymore and you need more and more creditials to offer to just survive these days....
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Warik
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This all depends on what exactly you're asking...
You want a post secondary education?
Read a book.
Go to a website.
Talk to someone successful.
Get a job working closely with the management.
You want proof that you got a post secondary "education?"
Go to college.
Quite frankly, you will learn the same, if not MORE, in the same amount of time, if not LESS, by simply studying on your own or getting a job. I've learned more in the past 2 years working through EXPERIENCE than I have in the past 2 years going to college. When I took a database management course, I frequently started snoozing in class beacuse my mental response to everything the teacher said was "I already know this shit." Does this mean that I know all there is to know about database management? Hell no. It means that the education I received at the University paled in comparison to the experience I had already acquired in a short period of time. And no, I'm not working for some huge corporation with a database team of 10 people. I work for a small travel agency and part of my job description is tinkering with our database. Hmm... get paid to learn about databases or pay hundreds to be taught what I already know...? Wow, tough decision.
Let's even think about this further.
I take 5 classes a semester, each class is about 2.5 hours a week. 5 x 2.5 = 12.5hrs a week. Times 16 weeks = 200 hours - that's not including commute to and from school, or homework time, mind you. Add my tuition money on top of that and what do you have? A big waste of time and money. I could have spent those 200 hours working and made myself an extra 3,000 or 4,000 bucks, plus learned a shitload more.
If you do decide to continue in your university, do it the way I do it by following these simple rules.
1) Your goal is to learn, not get good grades.
2) Part of learning is filtering out bullshit.
3) Part of not getting good grades is getting good enough grades to pass.
4) Getting a few more minutes sleep or watching your favorite television program takes precedence over going to class.
What does this tell you? Learn the important stuff, ignore the bullshit, and just do good enough to pass - and never overestimate the importance of going to class.
By following these simple rules, I'm looking at a 3.7GPA and only 30 credits remaining till I get my "BS". (Bachelor of Science, or something else? You decide.)
-Warik
You want a post secondary education?
Read a book.
Go to a website.
Talk to someone successful.
Get a job working closely with the management.
You want proof that you got a post secondary "education?"
Go to college.
Quite frankly, you will learn the same, if not MORE, in the same amount of time, if not LESS, by simply studying on your own or getting a job. I've learned more in the past 2 years working through EXPERIENCE than I have in the past 2 years going to college. When I took a database management course, I frequently started snoozing in class beacuse my mental response to everything the teacher said was "I already know this shit." Does this mean that I know all there is to know about database management? Hell no. It means that the education I received at the University paled in comparison to the experience I had already acquired in a short period of time. And no, I'm not working for some huge corporation with a database team of 10 people. I work for a small travel agency and part of my job description is tinkering with our database. Hmm... get paid to learn about databases or pay hundreds to be taught what I already know...? Wow, tough decision.
Let's even think about this further.
I take 5 classes a semester, each class is about 2.5 hours a week. 5 x 2.5 = 12.5hrs a week. Times 16 weeks = 200 hours - that's not including commute to and from school, or homework time, mind you. Add my tuition money on top of that and what do you have? A big waste of time and money. I could have spent those 200 hours working and made myself an extra 3,000 or 4,000 bucks, plus learned a shitload more.
If you do decide to continue in your university, do it the way I do it by following these simple rules.
1) Your goal is to learn, not get good grades.
2) Part of learning is filtering out bullshit.
3) Part of not getting good grades is getting good enough grades to pass.
4) Getting a few more minutes sleep or watching your favorite television program takes precedence over going to class.
What does this tell you? Learn the important stuff, ignore the bullshit, and just do good enough to pass - and never overestimate the importance of going to class.
By following these simple rules, I'm looking at a 3.7GPA and only 30 credits remaining till I get my "BS". (Bachelor of Science, or something else? You decide.)
-Warik
mattcanning99
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naturally anabolic said:
so let me consider my options...
i could go through university with no intrinsic interest whatsoever, learn how to become a math teacher (something i could do better than most math teachers already without the education) become a teacher, make a fairly crappy wage relatively, and retire at 55 with full pension.
option B
join regular force army, with a higher salary and all living expenses covered and retire at 39 with full pension, without getting a degree.
hmm...
vinylgroover
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Are you looking for an argument or advice?
If you've already made up your mind, which it sounds you have, then why the hell did you ask for advice in the first place, moron.
You just sound like another loser who doesn't know what to do with himself so you slag everything. Typical cynic.
If you've already made up your mind, which it sounds you have, then why the hell did you ask for advice in the first place, moron.
You just sound like another loser who doesn't know what to do with himself so you slag everything. Typical cynic.
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