Genetics!!! How Would You Know??

[reaper99]

Ok so how would you know that you have the genetics to go all the way? What are some tell tale signs or anything to look for that would let you know you got what it takes? Is it just about size? Or is it size, symmetry, how easily you grow?

 

[reaper99]

Pretty boring thread huh?

 

[Nytol2]

No, not at all, its a good question.

Apparently, big calves and forearms are a good sign, that you have good genetics to build muscle.

Obviously weighing a ripped 200lb before even touching a weight is a good sign too

 

[mr.nitrofish]

No, not at all, its a good question.

Apparently, big calves and forearms are a good sign, that you have good genetics to build muscle.



whys that?

 

[bigtasty25]

i have big forearms and smallish calves...so am i in between? lol

fast metabolism, responding quickly to weights...looking impressive before you even touched a steroid...those are signs of good genetics to an extent...regardless..
for the first question...i think alot of it has to do with bodytype...supposedly ecto-meso is a great combo for bodybuilding...small joints...big round muscle bellies..its all about the illusion...
In my opinion i have bad genetics...started at 120lbs at 5'10 AFTER a year of lifting, with a two pack of abs...LOL (didnt eat enough)..yet with discipline, knowledge, years of shaping the body and creating symmetry, ive been able to take the overall at my second show at 24 yrs of age..so, in my opinion...you can shape your body to appear as though you have GREAT genetics...and had...you just need a vision in mind..
some people with great genetics dont look that impressive if they eat like crap and dont workout...its only when they take advantage of their genetics..so...alot of it has to do with nutrition, knowledge, and motivation/dedication too...you can have mediocre genetics and become a pro, you just need to create the vision you want to achieve and do, over saying..

 

[gettnlarge01]

When you look like your on but instead you have never been on and only train 3 months out of the year and eat like shit.

 

[botrx]

Ok so how would you know that you have the genetics to go all the way? What are some tell tale signs or anything to look for that would let you know you got what it takes? Is it just about size? Or is it size, symmetry, how easily you grow?

Just look around at people in general. There is a huge difference between body types. Genetically we all have our strong, and weak points. Through weight training one can overcame weak genetics, but those weak areas will require more work. If you are gifted genetically, you have few weak areas, and you most likely respond well to training, making it easier to build symetry.

 

[drrman]

not necessarily on the calved and forearms. I have HUGE forearms and larger than normal calves, that i hardly have to train. BUT, i have huge bone structure and huge joints, both are not something a competing bodybuilder wants as it doesn't look as good on muscle insertion points and generally makes me look less defined.

I think you can look at your parents and get an idea. Look at their build, their bone structure, look at yours. Look at your dads shoulders, look at the width of your shoulders compared to your back/lats. Look at your back, its thickness. Look at other pro's other competitors and try to get a baseline comparison.

 

[mikefear]

There are few people who can be a top teir competitor.. it's hugely based on genetics.. i think you'd know if you were jacked at 17 and hadn't touched a damn weight.. maybe just played some sports and that was enough to stimulate incredible muscle growth.

the reason i attribute genetics so highly to the top guys is because there are plenty of people out there who train just as hard and eat just as much but will never look like that.. there's a reason it's always the same guys in the top bracket.. these are the dude's that train incredibly hard AND have the genetics to support it.

 

[GymIntensity]

not necessarily on the calved and forearms. I have HUGE forearms and larger than normal calves, that i hardly have to train. BUT, i have huge bone structure and huge joints, both are not something a competing bodybuilder wants as it doesn't look as good on muscle insertion points and generally makes me look less defined.

I think you can look at your parents and get an idea. Look at their build, their bone structure, look at yours. Look at your dads shoulders, look at the width of your shoulders compared to your back/lats. Look at your back, its thickness. Look at other pro's other competitors and try to get a baseline comparison.

bro I got small bones and wrists, weak joints, I hate it. Small forearms , big calves. Sometimes I think the size of my wrists and forearms start to limit my benchpress max.

 

[mikefear]

bro I got small bones and wrists, weak joints, I hate it. Small forearms , big calves. Sometimes I think the size of my wrists and forearms start to limit my benchpress max.

they do. get some wraps

 

[BigCracker]

Calves, arms and neck should all tape measure the same. Small waist, broad shoulders, and small joints to make you appear more muscular. Legs that flare out and measure the same/larger than the waist. After all this, you also need the ability to diet away your fat so your skin appears to be like saran wrap over the muscles without looking flat.

 

[Mac173]

I know that mine suck and I wish I had differant parents. I'll get pics up a soon as this whole google clusterf#*k stops messing w/ my computer. Damn I'm gettin pissed.

 

[acneman]

twice ive met guys that looked jacked and when i asked the stupid man question "how much do you bench?" one guy looked confused and when i told him i was referrin to weight liftin he laughed and told me he had never lifted weights. i worked with him for 2 years and i totaly believe him because even though he looked like a gym rat with possible juice use he had no idea about even the most basic workout/diet info.
the other guy said he had lifted a couple of times and didnt know how much he could bench because he had never gone over 180 with his friends weider concrete weights.

those are the guys with good genetics
both of them had a history of workin jobs that involved physical labor but weights?? no.

 

[needtogetaas]

I have it all.

 

[acneman]

I have it all.

we cant all be you man
no matter how much we want to

 

[needtogetaas]

we cant all be you man
no matter how much we want to

sad part is I ant as serious as others who don't.I dont wast it but I shore don't max out ether.lol

 

[acneman]

sad part is I ant as serious as others who don't.I dont wast it but I shore don't max out ether.lol

you are lettin people inside your head.
you do what you do for you.
not for them.

 

[needtogetaas]

you are lettin people inside your head.
you do what you do for you.
not for them.

 

[Makavelli]

I get this question a lot. The first thing to look for is their skeletal structure. The ideal being wide shoulders and a small waist. That creates that X frame look to the physique. Next would be the muscle bellies. Champion bodybuilders have natural thick and long muscles that appear large even if the person has never touched a weight. They just look muscular. Next would be how lean the person is without dieting and exercise. Those that are naturally lean usually have less fat cells and therefore carry less body fat than the rest of us.

There are variations of these 3, but they are all based off of these.

 

[solidspine]

Take a look at your parents

Aunts

Uncles

Grandparents,

Cousins,


Gives you a clue

 

[reaper99]

Thanks for the responses. So I am good on all except for the fat cells part, I can grow muscle pretty easily just its harder for me to lose bf. I think I am more less a endo/mesomorph.

 

[Tweakle]

http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dorian_Yates/Yates_042.jpg

proving that how you look before you touch a weight is not as important as your response to AAS and other goodies. Assuming you want to look like an IFBB pro, that is.

just remember, the most ridiculous thing when it comes to bbing (other than a 130lb fruit bragging about his abs) is a big framed fattie walking around thinking he looks like a bodybuilder.

 

[acneman]

http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dorian_Yates/Yates_042.jpg

proving that how you look before you touch a weight is not as important as your response to AAS and other goodies. Assuming you want to look like an IFBB pro, that is.

just remember, the most ridiculous thing when it comes to bbing (other than a 130lb fruit bragging about his abs) is a big framed fattie walking around thinking he looks like a bodybuilder.

i saw another pic of dorian when he was older but still didnt lift or do AAS
he had a mullet and was a lot bigger than that and ripped he wasnt huge but looked like he was in shape
he looks about 15 there
the pic i saw was i think like 18/19

 

[Makavelli]

http://www.fitnesspont.hu/mass-shop/picture_gallery/Dorian_Yates/Yates_042.jpg

proving that how you look before you touch a weight is not as important as your response to AAS and other goodies. Assuming you want to look like an IFBB pro, that is.

just remember, the most ridiculous thing when it comes to bbing (other than a 130lb fruit bragging about his abs) is a big framed fattie walking around thinking he looks like a bodybuilder.

However if you were to look at Dorian's muscle bellies they would have more muscle fibers than the average person's. That's why when he trained and took AAS he blew up. The AAS have more receptors to work on.

Yeah I hate those big fat dudes...

 

[Beachbum1546]

When you can stay under 10% bodyfat without a diet, when you look like you've been training harcore for years and yet haven't stepped foot into a gym.

 

[chazk]

i would say with in the first 6 months of weight lifting if your making gains then your prob got decent genetics. if you go home and cry about how sore you feel and try everything to avoid the gym then you prob dont have the genetics for it.

i think something more important then genetics is the "love for bodybuilding" more of a mental thing .if you really enjoy weight lifting and can make it to the gym 3-5 days a week the gains will come will you ever have the genetics of a pro bodybuilder prob not but you will have the genetics of a person that loves to lift and bodybuild that alone will push you enough to make gains by eating right and taking the drugs and become a bigger more powerful person then you would be if you had no love for bodybuilding and just set at home and played computer games.

some bodybuilders eat like shit train like shit and get big massive and cut. other bodybuilders have to train 6 days a week never miss a meal and take higher amounts of drugs to be at the same level physicaly but it does not matter the person with the better mental state can over come genetics with the obsession and love for the sport to keep him going.

 

[chazk]

btw i feel my genetics suck. my brother was bitching to me why do you eat so much and lift so many days a week when our friend rick can just look at a weight and grow.

i said i'm not rick .

I have over come genetic barriers due to a strict diet of atleast 6 meals a day.I am not the strongest guy at the gym so i have to do more excersizes at many diff angles to stimulate as much muscle growth as i can to give a more 3-d look .I have to stimulate red muscle fibers with 12-15 reps then stimulate white fibers with heavey reps 3-5 range.I have to do isloation work drop sets , ecentric contractions, just about every thing You can think of to stimulate muscle growth I do or have done.

I am currently 207lbs at 5'8 32 inch waiste 17 3/4 calves ,171/4 neck and 18 arms pumped. Everyone in my family on the male side is 6ft or taller and over 230lbs. I feel i got the genetic shaft and screwed but have manged to still build a decent body with dedication and determination. I have turned my self into alittle pit bull kick me and beat me its just more motivation when i step into the gym being the under dog makes me lift untill i throw up doing squats. almost faint after heavey bench presses.i think its my love for the sport more then genetics that have keep me going.

 

[Quadsweep]

Here is what I have seen and I have helped people turn pro. You would be able to win in at least local competition clean. Really placing in the top 10 at nationals would be possible. Maintaining low BF levels with ease. Structure is really most of it. If your frame is not up to snuff it will not happen. A lot of pros do not use near the dose many think...they do not need to.

Quad

 

[Makavelli]

I agree with Quad. However the dosages pros use are all over the place. Some use less and others use a lot more. Again it comes down to their genetics. If you have great genetics you can get away with less.