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PatBateman3

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I have been making the mistake (I believe it's a mistake??) of having a bottle of this while I lift. I am now thinking that I want to spare those muscles of all sugar until I get the dextrose/malto in my PW shake.

However, I am wondering if the above thought is true AND if it is still ok to have a gatorade while strictly doing cardio? thanks!
 
You can drink the gatorade while you train but that will take the place of the dextrose/malto PW shake. I have seen better results with sipping on gatorade throughout my workout than when I use simple carbs in my PW shake. What to keep in mind here when waiting until post-training, is that you are taking these carbs after you are done training, and you are forgetting that it takes time for digestion of these carbs before they can be used by your muscles, so the process is delayed. Your muscles need these carbs immediately to get the full benefit, starting after your first set. Once you complete your first set, your muscles are looking for carbs/protein to replenish itself, so you train for an hour and then have a carb/protein shake when you are done, so your body has been waiting an hour already, and now it has to wait for the digestion process to complete. I personally like to sip on a 20oz gatorade while training, providing my muscles with carbs throughout my workout, making them available for use right away as needed. Hope this makes sense. Heres a good article you guys can read. This article pertains to protein intake, but its the same concept for carbs.


For a long time, experts believed that weight training on a virtually empty stomach, followed directly afterward by a protein-and-simple-carbohydrate meal, was the most effective way to add muscle mass. However, according to a recent study done at the University of Texas that appeared in the American Journal of Physiology: Endocrinology and Metabolism, a small meal eaten shortly before your workout might more effectively provide your body with the nutrients it needs for recovery.

"It takes quite a while for protein to be broken down into amino acids, move into the amino-acid pool, and subsequently move into the muscles for that repair process," explains Mark Casselman, M.S., C.S.C.S. "The process takes longer than a few minutes or even an hour. The new thinking is that when you take in a small bolus of protein and before exercise, essentially you're giving that protein time to break down while you're working your muscles. So when your muscles are hungry for that protein after your workout, that protein will be more readily available.

"The study that looked at this gave a really small amount of protein to subjects before their training. In other words, don't work out after you've just slurped back a huge shake or eaten a large meal, because your body will have to expend too much energy digesting it. The way to go is to eat a small snack; all you need is a half a cup of cottage cheese or less than 200 calories of a protein drink. Keep the calorie count low and gauge how well your body responds to it. You can take in this light meal anywhere up to a half hour before your workout. It's not like you need to scarf it down and climb right on the bike.

"Another benefit of having a small meal is that you'll have more amino acids available in your bloodstream while you're working out. If you train for longer than 45 minutes at high intensity, your body may start to pull protein from muscle tissue to use as fuel. But if you've got those amino acids floating around in your blood, your body may be less likely to dip into your muscle-protein stores." ***This is why I also mix in some BCAAs with my gatorade.
 
Themachine01 said:
You can drink the gatorade while you train but that will take the place of the dextrose/malto PW shake. I have seen better results with sipping on gatorade throughout my workout than when I use simple carbs in my PW shake. What to keep in mind here when waiting until post-training, is that you are taking these carbs after you are done training, and you are forgetting that it takes time for digestion of these carbs before they can be used by your muscles, so the process is delayed. Your muscles need these carbs immediately to get the full benefit, starting after your first set. Once you complete your first set, your muscles are looking for carbs/protein to replenish itself, so you train for an hour and then have a carb/protein shake when you are done, so your body has been waiting an hour already, and now it has to wait for the digestion process to complete. I personally like to sip on a 20oz gatorade while training, providing my muscles with carbs throughout my workout, making them available for use right away as needed. Hope this makes sense. Heres a good article you guys can read. This article pertains to protein intake, but its the same concept for carbs.


For a long time, experts believed that weight training on a virtually empty stomach, followed directly afterward by a protein-and-simple-carbohydrate meal, was the most effective way to add muscle mass. However, according to a recent study done at the University of Texas that appeared in the American Journal of Physiology: Endocrinology and Metabolism, a small meal eaten shortly before your workout might more effectively provide your body with the nutrients it needs for recovery.

"It takes quite a while for protein to be broken down into amino acids, move into the amino-acid pool, and subsequently move into the muscles for that repair process," explains Mark Casselman, M.S., C.S.C.S. "The process takes longer than a few minutes or even an hour. The new thinking is that when you take in a small bolus of protein and before exercise, essentially you're giving that protein time to break down while you're working your muscles. So when your muscles are hungry for that protein after your workout, that protein will be more readily available.

"The study that looked at this gave a really small amount of protein to subjects before their training. In other words, don't work out after you've just slurped back a huge shake or eaten a large meal, because your body will have to expend too much energy digesting it. The way to go is to eat a small snack; all you need is a half a cup of cottage cheese or less than 200 calories of a protein drink. Keep the calorie count low and gauge how well your body responds to it. You can take in this light meal anywhere up to a half hour before your workout. It's not like you need to scarf it down and climb right on the bike.

"Another benefit of having a small meal is that you'll have more amino acids available in your bloodstream while you're working out. If you train for longer than 45 minutes at high intensity, your body may start to pull protein from muscle tissue to use as fuel. But if you've got those amino acids floating around in your blood, your body may be less likely to dip into your muscle-protein stores." ***This is why I also mix in some BCAAs with my gatorade.

Machine-

Thanks. The thing is, though, that the gatorade only has about 20g carbs per serving and it's not even dextro or malto I believe. I think what I may do is toss into the gatorade a scoop of a dextrose based product I have.
 
I used to do that, and I'm going to start doing it again. I mainly do it as a way to add extra calories to my diet, it's hard as HELL for me to gain weight. I make powerade from powder, usually double-strength, and drink 20oz while working out. Then I have my PWO shake of 50-60g's of whey, and some more powerade or juice, something with simple carbs. Hour after that, solid meal. I do this dieting or bulking, I just cut down the total amount of sugars when dieting.
 
Tux said:
I used to do that, and I'm going to start doing it again. I mainly do it as a way to add extra calories to my diet, it's hard as HELL for me to gain weight. I make powerade from powder, usually double-strength, and drink 20oz while working out. Then I have my PWO shake of 50-60g's of whey, and some more powerade or juice, something with simple carbs. Hour after that, solid meal. I do this dieting or bulking, I just cut down the total amount of sugars when dieting.

Tux, that is exactly what I am doing. I currently am cutting, but I would do the same bulking. The difference for me between cutting and bulking takes place what I eat outside of that 2 hr window/gym period. Every time I lift, I am going to have a Gatorade with Endurox mixed in (a dextrose based product at about 40g) and then PW have a 55g whey shake with maltodextrin at around 45g.
 
PatBateman3 said:
Tux, that is exactly what I am doing. I currently am cutting, but I would do the same bulking. The difference for me between cutting and bulking takes place what I eat outside of that 2 hr window/gym period. Every time I lift, I am going to have a Gatorade with Endurox mixed in (a dextrose based product at about 40g) and then PW have a 55g whey shake with maltodextrin at around 45g.

In my opinion, if you are cutting, that is too much sugar. Everyone is different though so your metabolism might be able to handle that amount, just keep that in mind if your progress isnt what you are expecting, you can mess with the amounts to adjust accordingly.
 
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