Gastric issues and Trenbolone .

[C0LUMB0]

ok so when people talk about tren sides...we all know about the night sweats, the coughing , high anxiety , aggression ..etc
Acid reflux / heartburn is often mentioned but from experience - i have found that this can be more chronic than expected .

I ran tren E last year for 12 weeks , towards the end of the cycle i started to develope seriously painful stomach bloating - as in my stomach was swellin to the point where by i would be doubled over in pain.
Appetite totally disapeared and i was constantly belching and farting , we all fart alot on high protein but these bad boys stank super-bad.. and the i'm talking about non stop all day and night.

The belching nearly smelled as bad as the farting ...rotten eggs is the best way to describe it.
I was diagnosed with h-pylori ( google it ) and treated with a triple course of anti biotics for 3 weeks, they did nothing and i was referred for and endscopy / stomach biopsy.

Even tho the symptoms subsided a few weeks after my last shot of tren - i didnt even consider that it might have been to blame.
Am just starting my third week on tren E again @ 600mg and hey presto the symptoms have started to present themselves again, so the penny dropped.

I will drop back to 400mg and see how it goes.

Just wanted to make EF people aware of this

 

[stevesmi]

AAS can definitely affect your bowel movements I can tell you that and permanently.

maybe you just need to go more often than you are used to.

 

[Zyglamail]

H. Pylori is no joke. Many med professionals totally discount how destructive it can be and generally dont pay attention or care about it until someone develops ulcers etc. Pylori, like many pathogens is pretty common but is often kept under control by the immune system and not allowed to get out of hand.

Antibiotics alone generally dont work and its usually treated with triple therapy which still is only about 70% effective. Ive talked to a few who had undergone 2-3 treatments and still never got rid of it. It totally jacks up digestion, increases toxic load on the body and causes heavy metal retention.

I dont think tren causes h. pylori since its an actual bacteria that lives in the stomach BUT it very well could be hampering the immune system and allowing the H pylori to grow out of control.

 

[Jbranken]

My stomach has been pretty fucked up the last 9 weeks on tren E. Never had acid reflux the way I do on it

 

[C0LUMB0]

H. Pylori is no joke. Many med professionals totally discount how destructive it can be and generally dont pay attention or care about it until someone develops ulcers etc. Pylori, like many pathogens is pretty common but is often kept under control by the immune system and not allowed to get out of hand.

Antibiotics alone generally dont work and its usually treated with triple therapy which still is only about 70% effective. Ive talked to a few who had undergone 2-3 treatments and still never got rid of it. It totally jacks up digestion, increases toxic load on the body and causes heavy metal retention.

I dont think tren causes h. pylori since its an actual bacteria that lives in the stomach BUT it very well could be hampering the immune system and allowing the H pylori to grow out of control.

I dont think tren cause h-pylori either zyg but having researched h-pylori and other stomach bugs , i can tell you that the symptoms are severe and identical !

 

[C0LUMB0]

AAS can definitely affect your bowel movements I can tell you that and permanently.

maybe you just need to go more often than you are used to.

Going for a shit more often is definitely not a problem Steve, i forgot to mention that serious diarrohea is also very much a part of this.

 

[Zyglamail]

I dont think tren cause h-pylori either zyg but having researched h-pylori and other stomach bugs , i can tell you that the symptoms are severe and identical !

Im not saying you dont have pylori I think its estimated 60% or more of the population does. I just think tren, for some reason, allows it to flair up.....LOL the pylori is suffering "roid rage!"

Check into matula tea and humaworm for natural ways to try and tackle h pylori. Antibiotics will devastate your intestines leaving them ripe for other pathogens to take hold.

 

[stevesmi]

ziggie is probably onto something here. tren is one of the AAS that are most likely to weaken immune system. you want to run something to boost immune system? run PRIMO!! there is a AIDS doctor who has tried primo on his patients and it worked wonders.. I just published an article on primo's amazing immune system properties and I believe it to be true because I never get sick on the stuff even when everyone else around me is sick.

also that doc that put you on anti-biotics is an imbecile.. definitely get on legit pro-biotics instead. NTBM sells some. he has his logic backwards killing your stomach bacteria. its usually a "I have no clue whats wrong with you so here is some anti-biotics" doctor response

 

[Silv]

You know what? I ran a cycle about a year ago tren dbol test my norm. The biggest issue was I ran it with 50mg dbol pills instead of 20-30mg a day. I ended up with bad stomach issues. I know pills can be hard on your stomach so I pressed on. I then stopped after my 4 weeks and still had issues (still had 8 weeks of tren to run). Went to the doctors BAM h pylori. I thought maybe a side from the dbol. Well I suffered with it until about 5 weeks after I was done with tren E. Call it coincidence call it what you want. It's not going to sway me from running tren. I just think you may be on to something.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ well another thing with tren is the guys who have run it for years end up with thyroid fatigue.

1. thyroid issues
2. stomach issues

a good reason to swap in primo over tren

 

[C0LUMB0]

Manuka honey definitely helps, the real expensive shit is supposedly right up there with anti biotics in terms of potency.
i need to get me some ,

steve - send me them ntbm probiotics FOC straight away

 

[chrisarm22]

Sorry to bump this so late, but ive been searching for someone who experienced the same thing. This is exactly what I've been dealing with, however im worried there's some serious tissue damage to my duodenum as the pain and side effects have not subsided after my tren cycle ended in February this year. My doc put me on PPI's after the triple treatment initially for pylori but I really feel the tren made it worse somehow. Ever since I have had frequent stomach bloating, pain and nausea and am about to get blood panels done as another meeting with a separate GI specialist. I've been pointing a finger towards tren and this really helped me confirm it even more so.

You guys ever get any more conclusions or answers?