Gains stop?

[BLACKDOOG]

I know that it is very important to cosume the proper amount of Calories at least 4000-5000 if you are a 200 pound person plus get the proper amount of proteins carbs fats and supplements, but after a certain point you can not stuff yourself with food any more. You start to get sick at the sight of chicken steak and other things. After a certain point your are not going to make any more gains whether you stuff in more food and train harder. We all react differently and for me after a certain amount of time my body says that is enough until I start my next cycle. I just do not see why every one thinks more foos is the key. the only thing I see more food doing is start to put fat on you.

Roger X hit the nail on the head....


If you aren't making progress, then you need MORE FOOD. People always think they are eating enough, or training properly. But half the time they aren't eating as much as they feel they are and their training is a mess.

Is your strength going up? If strength in the big lifts isn't going up (hey, those 2.5lbers and heavy collars count), or you aren't getting more reps, then you may need some rest.

Remember eat big, lift heavy and rest. If your strength isn't going up on deads, bench, squats, etc, and you are eating everything that's not nailed down, then you need to take a 'cruise'. Basically come off and regroup. Train to maintain what you gained until you've recovered.

 

[big_boy_1]

Yo Bros,
Can gains stop if i have been on too long? i am curerently taking 400 mg deca and 500 mg test-e. Also take 15mg dbol a day. Ive been on for 2 1/2 months. I have gaines around 30 pounds or more. But, i dont see any gains in the past 2 to 3 weeks. My diet is the same as what it has originally been. Should i up the protein and carb intake since ive put on more weight? I say carbs, btw, because im bulking. Im just wonderin if i should not shoot again and start clomid therapy. Thanks for reading.


PS- I was chosen to test for Oxycalm, and let me tell you. After 4 days using it, you can totally notice a sence of calm. I would compair it to the feeling from taking dbol for the first time, no joke! FYI

It happens often, takes several weeks or months tough.
To restart gains youll need to:

A. Increase the dosage.
B. Increase calories.
C. Stop, make some pct and start again.

 

[CaddysNJuice]

thank you all for your inputs!

 

[BLACKDOOG]

You are absolutely right after a certain point gains stop whether you eat more or train harder that is just how AAS work and after a certain point you have to increase dosages so you can get past your plateau.

It happens often, takes several weeks or months tough.
To restart gains youll need to:

A. Increase the dosage.
B. Increase calories.
C. Stop, make some pct and start again.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

The reason people post food is key, because it's true. Eat to grow, it's simple. Yeah, you will put on some fat, but if your goal is to be truly massive, to have abnormal amounts of muscle, then that is what it will take. It's eating plate after plate, even when you feel like throwing up, year after year, not taking x,y and z that makes one a massive bodybuilder.

This isn't the path for the guys looking for a little muscle. But those looking to get truly massive, that is the fastest way possible.

But in Cads case, a break is probably in order. I notice you've been blasting away for over two months. It's time for a break.

 

[CaddysNJuice]

c3- thats the conclusion im comming to. Im going to take a small break and run my pct. i feel that is the best thing to do. In the end, i want to take up bb as a serious hobby, but this is my 1st cycle, so i need to give my body a break b4 taking a bigiger leap. thanks.

 

[Crappiie]

I know that it is very important to cosume the proper amount of Calories at least 4000-5000 if you are a 200 pound person plus get the proper amount of proteins carbs fats and supplements, but after a certain point you can not stuff yourself with food any more. You start to get sick at the sight of chicken steak and other things. After a certain point your are not going to make any more gains whether you stuff in more food and train harder. We all react differently and for me after a certain amount of time my body says that is enough until I start my next cycle. I just do not see why every one thinks more foos is the key. the only thing I see more food doing is start to put fat on you.

I agree. There is a point when all that food wont make you any more muscle. It will start to turn to fat. I would take a rest. I notice when I do this I might lose a little more than if I didnt rest but when I come back I gain a lot more.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

Great idea brother. 2 1/2 months for a first cycle is long. Your body & mind need the break. I would even consider a few days off from the gym. All that blasting taxes the mind.

Great gains, 30lbs is AWESOME.

 

[MastaAce]

After a period of usage, your receptors will down regulate and the effectiveness of the gear you are using will decrease, unfortunately thats life! As a more advanced user, I usually have to up the dosages of the gear I am running around week 14 or 15. In your case, an increase in calories should bring the gains back. Always remember to increase your calories as the cycle progresses, because whilst on cycle, you are rapidly gaining muscle mass, so the amount of calories your body is burning at rest will increase quickly as well, so more and more calories are required to continually grow!

 

[DJ_UFO]

I'd say do not up your carbs. You better incease your calories, keeping the same proportion of carbs/protein/fat. Remember, you started the cycle with a diet that gave you 30 pounds of body mass. Now you're eating a diet for a dude+30 pounds; that means you need to adjust your diet now for a dude+30 pounds+something in order to keep gaining mass.