gains kept after prohormone cycle

[slydeflex04]

Hi, I wanted to know how many people have been able to keep gains made after using any prohormones? I am currently taking 1test/4ad for a 6 week cycle and am on my fourth week and have seen some good gains in strength and muscle and wanted to know how much of these gains can I expect to keep after a good pct using novla? Are these gains really long term or temporary? If I never do another cycle will these gains still be kept?

 

[slydeflex04]

No one has kept any gains?

 

[cmdubs]

Honestly in my 1st two cycles of 1ad I kept maybe 20% of the gains I made. I think it was mostly my fault though. I tend to eat like a pig while on and then I drop the calories back to where they were before too quickly.

I think you just need to make sure you're eating enough to maintain the extra size post cycle and you'll be able to keep most the size gains.

I'll be doing another cycle in about month though and will be more careful with diet.

 

[strangebrew]

gained 11 lbs from m1t, kept 11 lbs.l

 

[Jollyrogers_cookin]

gained 11 lbs from m1t, kept 11 lbs.l

Im on the Universal Animal Stak right now and all I can say is this shit is wild, Im feeling like 24/7 I have an adrenline pump, been on it for 4 days now, I'll let you know what my gains are and weather I keep most of it, I never took prohormones before, so we'll see what happens. right now Im at 198lbs 5"10, ripped quite good.

 

[Prime Rib2]

I've done two cycles of 1-AD, both 8 weeks long. First time, didn't do ANY type of PCT, and kept my strength. Lost a couple of lbs, but it was mostly water. Was real happy.

Second cycle, same thing except I did a little PCT and i'm fine. Kept everything and within 2 lbs of my highest weight while on.

1-AD is good shit by itself, I couldn't imagine it being stacked with something else.

 

[d3track]

depends on what your diet and training are afterward
if you finish your cycle and keep training hard and eating well you can keep most all your gains

if however, your training and diet go down the crapper, you are gonna lose it

 

[slydeflex04]

depends on what your diet and training are afterward
if you finish your cycle and keep training hard and eating well you can keep most all your gains

Sounds like this can be effective if done correctly. I had read somewhere else that some people were stating that all gains made during ph cycles would be temporary

 

[d3track]

the reason is they stop eating and training after they finish the ph
if you train and eat hard this is a likely senario

on
gain 12lb

after, lose about 4lbs (mostly water)

you could gain approx 8 lbs

but your diet and training are the key, ph or not

 

[Jollyrogers_cookin]

Im on the Universal Animal Stak right now and all I can say is this shit is wild, Im feeling like 24/7 I have an adrenline pump, been on it for 4 days now, I'll let you know what my gains are and weather I keep most of it, I never took prohormones before, so we'll see what happens. right now Im at 198lbs 5"10, ripped quite good.

well, after this cycle, about 4-5 weeks ago, I "think" I gained about 4 lb lbm

all in all ..it could be just this product thats not very good or decent, or maby not enough of it or just not any good at all ... nothing to rave about thats for sure, but it did help with my workouts giving me more energy ... ofcourse I was on creatine too and still am ...

 

[powerlord]

1-AD gained 15lbs and haven't lost a pound,solid diet and heavy lifting.

 

[houseofpainhulk]

so has anyone ever used just 1 test or 1-AD alone without the 4-AD, what type of gains did you make.

 

[powerlord]

My PH cycle was without anything else except creatine,and a good bulk diet.

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

I'm up 6-9 pounds depending on the scale I use in 2.5 weeks of 1-AD. The best part is I'm not even really bulking. I just make sure I got plenty of protein. I would definitely be happy to do another cycle of 1-AD.

 

[gjohnson5]

Hi, I wanted to know how many people have been able to keep gains made after using any prohormones? I am currently taking 1test/4ad for a 6 week cycle and am on my fourth week and have seen some good gains in strength and muscle and wanted to know how much of these gains can I expect to keep after a good pct using novla? Are these gains really long term or temporary? If I never do another cycle will these gains still be kept?

Yes , people should go be lean body mass , not the scale. These drugs will cause you to hold fat and water.

 

[SonofAtlas]

Did a 4 week cycle f RPN Havoc and Spectra Force furaguno. Ate like a beast during and trained 6 days a week. I used Gaspari Novedex as a PCT.
Gained 22 pounds during cycle, lost about 3 pounds after. Also, managed to cut about an inch of my waist (32" to 31") during the cycle.

 

[mickeyb69]

Thats pretty impressive; although Havoc is a steroid not a prohormone.

 

[SonofAtlas]

Vitamin D is also a steroid. So is cholesterol.

 

[dabuffguy]

Vitamin D is also a steroid. So is cholesterol.

This is news to me.


Care to explain how vitamin D is a steroid?

It's an ergcolciferol, but is not a steroid.

 

[SonofAtlas]

The word steroid was coined to describe sterols, a family of organic molecules that includes cholesterol.
Does Havoc fall into the broad category of steroids-- that is, is it a terpenoid lipid with four fused rings? Yes. As previously mentioned, cholesterol and Vitamin D do as well.

Is it anabolic? Yes. So is melatonin, tribulus terrerestris (most common tribulus supplement), tribulus aquaticus (ingredient in Prime), and all of the prohormones previously mentioned in this thread.
Claiming that some supplement is a steroid is not a very insulting or particularly damning claim.

 

[SonofAtlas]

This is news to me.


Care to explain how vitamin D is a steroid?

It's an ergcolciferol, but is not a steroid.

Ergocalciferol is actually a form of Vitamin D, not the other way around.
"Steroid" is just a term denoting a terpenoid lipid with four fused carbon rings. There is a subfamily of steroids known as "secosteroids" that just have 3 fused rings and one broken ring. Vitamin D falls into this category.

The problem is people use the word "steroid" to denote chemicals like Winstrol. Steroid was a term initially coined in the 1920s to describe sterols, a family of chemicals that includes cholesterol.