FrontLoading - What is the concensus amoung Vets

[black sheep]

I am just about to start my 4th cycle and was thinking about frontloading since I have plenty of gear.

Here is my cycle Plan without a front Load

Test LE 600mg Week 1-12
EQ 600mg Week 1-12
OT-Bol 40mg ED week 1-5

So I was thinking About running the Test LE and the EQ at a gram a week for weeks one and 2.

Pro's and Cons?

 

[black sheep]

No one has any opinions on Front Loading Huh?

 

[chefbone]

Frontload the EQ, but no need to on the Test IMO. The t-bol should do just fine!!

 

[chefbone]

Oh, if you upped the t-bol to 60mg aday for 4 weeks, that would be killer as well!!

 

[black sheep]

I have 150 10mg OT-Bols - So I can do 60 for 3 weeks and then 40mg the 4th week.. Would that be better than 5 weeks at 40 you think?

 

[chefbone]

I have 150 10mg OT-Bols - So I can do 60 for 3 weeks and then 40mg the 4th week.. Would that be better than 5 weeks at 40 you think?

Yes

 

[wellbilt]

i frontloaded my current eq cycle
i took 200mg eod for the first 2 weeks and the shiat was kicking in by the 3rd week
i think its probably worth it but iam running eq by itself
you should see efects from the t-bol within the first weeks so u probably dont need to frontload

 

[black sheep]

OKay - Here is my Plan then

Week 1-2 EQ 1000mg/week
Week 3-12 EQ 600mg/week
Week 1-12 Test LE 600mg/week
Week 1-3 Ot-Bol 60mg ED
Week 4 OT-Bol 40mg ED

Arimidex at very low dosage throughout

Nolva - Clomid - And HCG PCT

 

[chefbone]

OKay - Here is my Plan then

Week 1-2 EQ 1000mg/week
Week 3-12 EQ 600mg/week
Week 1-12 Test LE 600mg/week
Week 1-3 Ot-Bol 60mg ED
Week 4 OT-Bol 40mg ED

Arimidex at very low dosage throughout

Nolva - Clomid - And HCG PCT

That is a killer fuggin' cycle bro. Have fun!!!

 

[Triple J]

it looks good bro but i would plan to run something short-acting at the end (I mean through weeks 12-14) while those long esters clear. something like four weeks of winnie would be perfect, or another round of the tbol. then commence your PCT

re: the frontload, if this does not cause you any sides then go for it. the one time I tried to frontload eq I got anxiety and problems sleeping, and with T, I got a big estrogen surge, so I do not bother with frontloads anymore. this just goes to show the gear actually goes to work quickly in your system, although for some it takes time for them to "feel" it - its still there from the start working to effect the physiology. therefore IMHO frontloads not needed

 

[TheRide]

Frontload the EQ, but no need to on the Test IMO. The t-bol should do just fine!!

Disagree IMO... EQ is such a long acting ether that I don't see the point in frontloading - you're not going to bring your blood levels up that much quicker. I have front loaded prop and enath b4 and haven't seen much other then side-effects... Just my 0.02

 

[Ulter]

Be careful frontloading EQ. If you go over 1000mg/wk your blood may become to rich and clog the capillaries making it hard to breath, and may lead to panic attacks. For most people that doesn't happen until they get around 2000mg but I have seen it at 1000mg.

 

[black sheep]

Be careful frontloading EQ. If you go over 1000mg/wk your blood may become to rich and clog the capillaries making it hard to breath, and may lead to panic attacks. For most people that doesn't happen until they get around 2000mg but I have seen it at 1000mg.

Thankx Ulter - I remember reading a thread where a guy got very sick at a gram a week of EQ. THis is my first run with EQ - so I will stick with 600mg/week throughout...

I decided to hit some prop for the first 2 weeks to jump start the test - this coupled with the OT-Bol - I should see results fairly quickly..

 

[Makavelli]

I always front load EQ.

 

[marshallmadman]

Sounds like you're in for some serious pain.

 

[wayneboard1]

Thankx Ulter - I remember reading a thread where a guy got very sick at a gram a week of EQ. THis is my first run with EQ - so I will stick with 600mg/week throughout...

I decided to hit some prop for the first 2 weeks to jump start the test - this coupled with the OT-Bol - I should see results fairly quickly..

I have heard more than one guy on here say the only difference between 400 and 600 mg in EQ is that it runs out faster at 600. Just a thought.

 

[black sheep]

Just some FYI for everyone I injected the following with very minimal injection site pain:

1cc of 100mg Prop
3/4cc of Test LE 400mg
3/4cc of EQ 600mg

First injection of the cycle in the quad - virtually no pain at all..

 

[Slyder190]

Be careful frontloading EQ. If you go over 1000mg/wk your blood may become to rich and clog the capillaries making it hard to breath, and may lead to panic attacks. For most people that doesn't happen until they get around 2000mg but I have seen it at 1000mg.

2000mg? DAMN!

 

[marshallmadman]

Just some FYI for everyone I injected the following with very minimal injection site pain:

1cc of 100mg Prop
3/4cc of Test LE 400mg
3/4cc of EQ 600mg

First injection of the cycle in the quad - virtually no pain at all..

WOW! That's incredible, dude. Must be some of his newer stuff. I have heard good things in comparison to some older batches.

 

[needsize]

If you are running an oral to begin with, I dont see much point in frontloading, you are going to start to make gains right away because of the oral

 

[TheRide]

If you are running an oral to begin with, I dont see much point in frontloading, you are going to start to make gains right away because of the oral

Needsize, can you explain why you would gain quicker from oral then IM???

 

[da_boss]

2000mg? DAMN!

thats just the eq my friend. A total waste in 99.999% of users

 

[used2juice]

WOW! That's incredible, dude. Must be some of his newer stuff. I have heard good things in comparison to some older batches.

His new stuff is painless and potent as can be. I'm finishing up 1g of their LE and 600mg of their EQ per week, 2 completely painless shots each week, and only 1.8cc per injection! I don't even get the lump that I sometimes got before. I wake up the next day and can't even tell I injected anything.

 

[marshallmadman]

His new stuff is painless and potent as can be. I'm finishing up 1g of their LE and 600mg of their EQ per week, 2 completely painless shots each week, and only 1.8cc per injection! I don't even get the lump that I sometimes got before. I wake up the next day and can't even tell I injected anything.

Wow! That's amazing. I am extremely familiar with the lump you speak of. Glad to hear it. Great guy to work with.

 

[needsize]

Needsize, can you explain why you would gain quicker from oral then IM???

I never said quicker, but its easier, you know what your blood levels look like, orals tend to be cheaper, etc. And as far as pure anabolic power, its very tough to beat some of the orals, ie, dbol, anadrol, even winny

 

[KA-BAR]

Yep. I used to love EQ and I would use a vial of Denkall ultragain about every 5 days. I started to have problems with blood clots. This came a month or so after cycle. Its good shit but I would never go past 600mg a week.

Be careful frontloading EQ. If you go over 1000mg/wk your blood may become to rich and clog the capillaries making it hard to breath, and may lead to panic attacks. For most people that doesn't happen until they get around 2000mg but I have seen it at 1000mg.