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frontloading question, don't read if you don't like stupid questions

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this is probably a stupid question, actually i'm sure it is but- if frontloading is used on drugs that have long esters such as deca, eq, some tests, why can't that be applied to orals that don't kick in for 2 weeks? Is it because they're 2 completely different kind of drugs and frontloading can't be applied to them? For instance, people frontload creatine to get it in their system quicker, why couldn't you do this with ox?
 
I dont think that is a stupid question, I was kind of wondering the same thing. I must be because the ox's half life is so short. I dont know though.


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I don't feel there is a need to front load Ox as it is a faster acting compound. If you have the extra Ox just laying around and want to try and front load it I see no problem trying it. I am interested to see what others say but for now I am off to bed...good night all

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i beleive orals can be frontloaded as well... Think about it... Many people are starting to front load winny... It doesnt matter if you shoot it or drop a pill...
 
ya i waan know the same thing cause i wana front load dbols for a week. i dont see why it wouldnt work. but i need some vet advice. keep this post up.
 
I was just about to go to bed when I had to read this post again LOL I do not see the need to front load fast acting orals or fasta cting compunds in general. The reason to front load longer acting esters is to see faster results but with things like D-Bol and Winny where you see results within the first week I see no need to front load. Just my opinion

M18
 
I don't see the point with dbol because you start seeing results around day 4-5. I don't know when the winny kicks in, I think it's the first week eh? But somethign along the lines of Ox where you don't reap benefits for around 2 weeks....that is the question.
 
mustang i think ur right bro. it makes Zero sence. haha just double checkin... guy somttimes i think somthing doesnt work and some how it does. i always gota check these facts out. i agree with using long esters for front loading.
 
I don't know why you should frontload ox.
When I take it, I begin to feel more strength within 3-4 days. If you don't feel it for 2 weeks, I think the dose is too low for you. How many mg/day did you try ? Take 30mg ed, at least (40mg is better) if you don't have BTG tabs.
 
I think the difference is in the "Kick In" and the AAS levels in your blood. Kick in time differs from person to person and the time required to have stronger muscles have many other requirements. I don't think front loading has not much to do to shorten the "Kick In Time". It is just to have steadier AAS levels in your body thruout your cycle so that you don't have many unpredicted spikes and sideeffects.

As Orca and Mustang said you don't need to frontload with short half life drugs. I don't think it's very wise to front load with orals as you will just increase the sides for not much of an advantage.

BTW, front loading of Creatine is considered as useless and marketing hype by many experts, which I agree.
 
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I'm not saying I want to frontload the ox, I'm just giving an example of an oral that doesn't kick in for a couple of weeks. I am on an ox only cycle right now. Friday will be day 5 of it. It will more than likely kick in around next wednesday or so. I was just wondering if you could frontload orals.
 
flickenu said:
- if frontloading is used on drugs that have long esters such as deca, eq, some tests, why can't that be applied to orals..

I think you just answered your own question ie LONG ACTING compounds are front loaded, not sound acting compounds which include orals such as oxy.
 
mrt is right..

"front loading" is just a way to get blood levels up to their max in a minimal amount of time. Say you injected 1000mg of t-enanthate on day one and you planned to use 500mg/week after that... You really don't "feel" the results of the test until after the first week or so-- not because blood levels need to further build up, it's because the "message" that the hormones send takes a while to be processed..

AAS cause a lot of phones to ring in cells.. It takes a while for all of those phones to be answered.

As for loading an oral.. You would get an initial over-shot for as many days as you loaded it. This is actually something that front end loaders try to avoid... It would be like front end loading 5000mg of test when you plan on using 500mg/week-- a total over shot.

So I don't see the need to load an oral.. Unless, perhaps if you were doing a 2on 4 off cycle.

Andy
 
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