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friends who NEVER have your back?

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i just realized a good "friend" of mine is "one of those".

for my friends, it doesnt matter if they walk up to someone they dont know and start talking shit, over the stupidest thing. ill go up and support them and have their back and make the arguement as big or as little as they want me to. i dont even care how stupid we look, cause i have their back, and thats all that matters cause we are buddies.

well iv been friends with one kid who is a fucking prick, and im a dick back now, and i used to think it was my fault and not be able to figure out what i was doing wrong untill i realized that the kid is just a fuckin bitch and the reason i subconciously hate him (aside from him being a dick) is because he NEVER has my back.

hes one of those people who thinks he decides "whats cool" or whats funny and isnt funny, whose cool, whose gay, etc. ud think being roomates with someone for a year and good friends before that would make someone want to have my back, especially since iv never not.

i realized it because we were on this feild to smoke, that i had just driven everyone 15 minutes to get to, and they tell me that they reminded me that i forgot the weed, even though if they reminded me, they did the shittiest job ever cause we were in the middle of the feild with no weed.

right before that there were deer on the feild and we thought it was dogs and everyone was scared, but i just ran after them and chased them away cause everyone else was too scared to and i turn around and the friend im bitching about runs after me. im like "wow this is the first time uv ever had my back on anything", and then realized hes not my friend.

so im with these 2 girls also, who iv been smoking with occasionally, and trying to be nice to and work on being personable towards women, and they have weed too. but so my friends refuse to go back with me to my car which is like another 10 minute walk, because "its my fault for forgetting the weed". even though 2 out of 3 of the kids didnt even pay for any of it. so the girls are nicer to me than my actual friends and walk back with me to my car, we get it, and they smoke me up with some of their weed which doesnt affect my friends smoking in anyway. as soon as i get there they start being a fucking dickhead to me calling me a fag for smoking without them.

but in reality, it wasnt their weed, we had t owalk a fuckload while they got to chill, so we may as well enjoy our walk. also i had just driven them there. and at least 5 times for each of my 2 good friends that were there (the 3rd one is a new friend i dont know him as well), iv had blunts waiting for them to get off work or come back from family functions. but 2 days ago they had already smoked and told me theyd wait till after my family dinner to smoke a 2nd time, and text me even before my dinner starts saying they dont wanna wait. they are fucking dicks.

but ya so the one who i actually dont like (the roomate) never has my back just in general in any situation he will jump at any chance to be a dickhead to me. hes 130 pounds and i used to be physical as shit and fight with people (like amicably wreslte around), but my friend would talk shit and id like get him n a choke all happy and hed start crying like a fucking bitch. but then hed go hit people his size and smaller. i realize its because hes a scared jealous faggot.


Edit:

Cliffnotes: i have one friend who is a fucking dickhead, and instead of having my back is a dickhead to me or starts being a prick to me at any chance he gets or teams up with people we just met to be a dick to me. even though i always have his back.
 
it'd be best if you get used to being your own man asap. dudes who run in packs are str8 up pussies...you're gonna get in 10 times the shit when trying to be a good friend....
 
okay,

I have come to a conclusion from your recent threads and posts

everything revolves around weed... so kick the habitit and move on to bigger and better things

COKE!

problems solved
 
Jesus, each of your threads are like "war and Peace."

Condense this shit down for those of us with short attention spans, please.
 
Dude, not reading these. God damn. Edit it to like a paragraph and give us the jist. Or don't and live with little to no responses.

This is something i slowly learned over the years as well. You end up cutting hte fat as you go. It happens naturally as a byproduct of what you can and cannot tolerate. My take: Figure out what kid of person you are, and then try to surround yourself with like-minded people.
 
HumanTarget said:
it'd be best if you get used to being your own man asap. dudes who run in packs are str8 up pussies...you're gonna get in 10 times the shit when trying to be a good friend....
bro did you read the thread? this isnt about fights. its about petty arguements or just being supportive of a friend and taking their side (or in this case never taking their side or supporting them/having their back).

and even so, i dont live in the fucking ghetto, im not going to be bakcing my friends with my glock and AK or anything fucked up like that
 
Nathan said:
Dude, not reading these. God damn. Edit it to like a paragraph and give us the jist. Or don't and live with little to no responses.

This is something i slowly learned over the years as well. You end up cutting hte fat as you go. It happens naturally as a byproduct of what you can and cannot tolerate. My take: Figure out what kid of person you are, and then try to surround yourself with like-minded people.
cliffnotes added
 
okay there is always a person you pick on in a group of friends. in your case its you

in my circle of freinds it is my chineese friend..

im sure when shit hits the fan the guy has ur back though
 
Sounds like you have strange taste in friends. Why do you hang out with him?
 
at your age you will gain and lose many friends, don't put up with shit like that. NO human deserves to be treated like shit
 
SublimeZM said:
bro did you read the thread? this isnt about fights. its about petty arguements or just being supportive of a friend and taking their side (or in this case never taking their side or supporting them/having their back).

and even so, i dont live in the fucking ghetto, im not going to be bakcing my friends with my glock and AK or anything fucked up like that
i'm sorry. i did like everyone else & read one sentence and took it from there. and why stick up for some stuttering, stammering mf's who can't talk shit. ALL kids can talk shit nowadays. it's what this current generation does best: insult each other over the internet. so maybe they need to take some verbal self-defense courses...
 
Nathan said:
He's not your friend. Don't hang out with him.
this is the point of the thread, genius. that i realize hes not my friend.

but he was my roomate last year and will be again this year, if i dont kill him
 
Faizakafez said:
okay there is always a person you pick on in a group of friends. in your case its you

in my circle of freinds it is my chineese friend..

im sure when shit hits the fan the guy has ur back though
cool, except for your wrong. we all pick on eachother equally (usually i am the biggest dick when we start making fun of people, cause im smarter and more witty). its just this one kid, who takes any chance he can to be a dick
 
Faizakafez said:
okay there is always a person you pick on in a group of friends. in your case its you

in my circle of freinds it is my chineese friend..

im sure when shit hits the fan the guy has ur back though

If this is the case the bottom line with that shit is that they do it because you let them...probably. I'm no psychiatrist but that's how it usually looks. I'm not saying kill him but the next time he says soemthing like that you might want to look right at him and tell him you're tired of it and to knock it the fuck off. Jesus dude, you're a huge guy.
 
blindly supporting assholes whether they are right or wrong is a good way to find yourself in big trouble quick. learn to be your own person and be able to make snap decisions in a seconds notice. ive seen rat packs get rolled up big time in college because level headed people were too stupid to tell their friend hes wrong and lets get out of here.

dont be the guy in a coma because your head was crushed in after your friend thought he was talking shit to 3 dudes and he missed the 12 others in the other room. ive seen it happen. dont be that guy.
 
HumanTarget said:
i'm sorry. i did like everyone else & read one sentence and took it from there. and why stick up for some stuttering, stammering mf's who can't talk shit. ALL kids can talk shit nowadays. it's what this current generation does best: insult each other over the internet. so maybe they need to take some verbal self-defense courses...
i remember you complaining in some of your posts about how your bouncer buddies didnt have your back when you got shot. and then the establishment u bounced at sued the shit out of you.

you probably joked around with and loved your buddies u worked with and didnt realize the entire place would fuck you like that.

well thats the vibe im getting from this guy. its one of those
 
and i used to be physical as shit and fight with people

you need to start doing that again, they probably all think you're a giant pussy now.

I remember one little rat-boy we used to smoke with back when I was your age, my other friends used to beat the crap out of him all the time, throw him down stairs and kick him in the nuts , then laugh at him as he cried on the floor .. but I didn't because I didn't want to hurt him & even let him sleep at my place when his parents kicked him out.

So of course when he finally decided to steal from one us it was my fucking wallet he ran off with.
 
SublimeZM said:
this is the point of the thread, genius. that i realize hes not my friend.

but he was my roomate last year and will be again this year, if i dont kill him

I never said I was on the ball. I mostly just want to hear myself talk.
 
Nathan said:
If this is the case the bottom line with that shit is that they do it because you let them...probably. I'm no psychiatrist but that's how it usually looks. I'm not saying kill him but the next time he says soemthing like that you might want to look right at him and tell him you're tired of it and to knock it the fuck off. Jesus dude, you're a huge guy.
the thing is its iffy because i love going back and forth and making jokes and fucking around, and one would think our group of friends hate eachother at times based on how much we make fun of eachothe rand then we will go smoke a blunt or something and laugh.

but the difference is this guy is a selfish dick on top of it.

but the part that makes me realize hes not my friend is that i realize he wont have my back, which IMO is the basic foundation of a friendship.

and weve known eachother for years.
 
timtim said:
blindly supporting assholes whether they are right or wrong is a good way to find yourself in big trouble quick. learn to be your own person and be able to make snap decisions in a seconds notice. ive seen rat packs get rolled up big time in college because level headed people were too stupid to tell their friend hes wrong and lets get out of here.

dont be the guy in a coma because your head was crushed in after your friend thought he was talking shit to 3 dudes and he missed the 12 others in the other room. ive seen it happen. dont be that guy.
jesus, its an example. ill have my friends back but if it looks like we are going to get our asses whooped id diffuse the situation to save us both, but id make sure it was BOTH OF US that was safe.

you guys most be from the hard thugged out streets getting into all your fights, beacuse im not talking about fighting here
 
Tweakle said:
you need to start doing that again, they probably all think you're a giant pussy now.

I remember one little rat-boy we used to smoke with back when I was your age, my other friends used to beat the crap out of him all the time, throw him down stairs and kick him in the nuts , then laugh at him as he cried on the floor .. but I didn't because I didn't want to hurt him & even let him sleep at my place when his parents kicked him out.

So of course when he finally decided to steal from one us it was my fucking wallet he ran off with.
these are the kinds of examples and advice/stories i was looking for.

thanks for being a bro and participating instead of trying to be my psychologist, lol
 
SublimeZM said:
jesus, its an example. ill have my friends back but if it looks like we are going to get our asses whooped id diffuse the situation to save us both, but id make sure it was BOTH OF US that was safe.

you guys most be from the hard thugged out streets getting into all your fights, beacuse im not talking about fighting here


not a thug but there were tons of fight when i was in college, especially at the bars where the fraternities ran the show and these issues would carry over into campus life. i figured defending your friend as you described meant in situations where physical violence occured.

if the dude is a prick to you, next time he is, call him on it and see his response. if he tries to play you out fuck him up and put him in his place. everybody needs an ass whooping every once in awhile, including myself. show him you mean business or this behavior will probably get worse and ruin the friendship. happens all the time at college.
 
timtim said:
not a thug but there were tons of fight when i was in college, especially at the bars where the fraternities ran the show and these issues would carry over into campus life. i figured defending your friend as you described meant in situations where physical violence occured.

if the dude is a prick to you, next time he is, call him on it and see his response. if he tries to play you out fuck him up and put him in his place. everybody needs an ass whooping every once in awhile, including myself. show him you mean business or this behavior will probably get worse and ruin the friendship. happens all the time at college.
ya i just need to put him in his place more often. i thought by not getting carried away like that, it made me a better friend, but i guess to him it just makes me his bitch
 
SublimeZM said:
i remember you complaining in some of your posts about how your bouncer buddies didnt have your back when you got shot. and then the establishment u bounced at sued the shit out of you.

you probably joked around with and loved your buddies u worked with and didnt realize the entire place would fuck you like that.

well thats the vibe im getting from this guy. its one of those
mostly correct. i always knew i was nothing more than a goon for them. but anyway, sounds like you're having your doubts, so, act on them. just pull everything back until it's confirmed, one way or another....
 
SublimeZM said:
ya i just need to put him in his place more often. i thought by not getting carried away like that, it made me a better friend, but i guess to him it just makes me his bitch


do it. if hes a real friend he will realize he is wrong and deserved it. my old roomate whooped my ass 2 times in college and it was WELL deserved.
 
timtim said:
do it. if hes a real friend he will realize he is wrong and deserved it. my old roomate whooped my ass 2 times in college and it was WELL deserved.
the problem is hes one of those (as described in my long as post) who thinks everything he says is correct.

he "decides" whats cool, whose cool, whats funny, whats not funny, what music is gay, what music isnt gay, etc. i never take him seriously on it, but in his mind hes 100% correct about everything all the time, and thinks he deserves everything and give nothing. and hes very convincing, untill you figure out hes like that, you sorta fall for it. our one other friend who realizes that the guy is full of shit, in the group is on vacation right now so the "friend balance" is a bit screwed up, since one of our other friends (who was there for anyone who read the post) is gay for this guy (my roomate).

so there is no ass beating or amount of logical convincing, or discussion, or anything that will ever convince him hes wrong
 
SublimeZM said:
the problem is hes one of those (as described in my long as post) who thinks everything he says is correct.

he "decides" whats cool, whose cool, whats funny, whats not funny, what music is gay, what music isnt gay, etc. i never take him seriously on it, but in his mind hes 100% correct about everything all the time, and thinks he deserves everything and give nothing. and hes very convincing, untill you figure out hes like that, you sorta fall for it. our one other friend who realizes that the guy is full of shit, in the group is on vacation right now so the "friend balance" is a bit screwed up, since one of our other friends (who was there for anyone who read the post) is gay for this guy (my roomate).

so there is no ass beating or amount of logical convincing, or discussion, or anything that will ever convince him hes wrong


thats a tough spot then. you might have to consider new friends. sucks, but college is like that. if he is unreasonable he will be very hard to deal with. you dont need know it alls as friends, they are the worst.
 
timtim said:
thats a tough spot then. you might have to consider new friends. sucks, but college is like that. if he is unreasonable he will be very hard to deal with. you dont need know it alls as friends, they are the worst.
yes. very annoying. except im living with him for the next year :(
 
he sounds just like the kid I was talking about, you have me reminiscing about something that happened 12 years ago and it still annoys me :o

you dont need to convince him he's wrong , just put him in his place. Cocky little guys are deep down terrified of being shown to be weak in public so next time you're all smoked up do the wrasslin thing , make it like it's all fun and games, then choke him out just a little bit too long in front of other ppl.. make sure he's the one whining and begging you to let him go.

he'll probably go try to fuck with someone else after just to reassure himself but you made him look weak and he'll not forget that

although it might probably not work if he decides to try to get you back by being a dick to you again.. so everytime he acts out be the big smoked up ogre who takes it just a bit too far.

[/drphil]
 
Tweakle said:
he sounds just like the kid I was talking about, you have me reminiscing about something that happened 12 years ago and it still annoys me :o

you dont need to convince him he's wrong , just put him in his place. Cocky little guys are deep down terrified of being shown to be weak in public so next time you're all smoked up do the wrasslin thing , make it like it's all fun and games, then choke him out just a little bit too long in front of other ppl.. make sure he's the one whining and begging you to let him go.

he'll probably go try to fuck with someone else after just to reassure himself but you made him look weak and he'll not forget that

although it might probably not work if he decides to try to get you back by being a dick to you again.. so everytime he acts out be the big smoked up ogre who takes it just a bit too far.

[/drphil]
he used to always say "you take things way too fucking far"

and id always be like "i enjoy hitting and being hit, i enjoy wrestling and being wrestled, im just having fun", but he used to bitch so much that i pretty much entirely stopped.

but lately iv been fighting around with this new kid we hang out with and its alot of fun even though he bitches too, and will constantly be like "wow my shoulders really hurting from that hit, does your back hurt" or "you hit m ein the rib wtf now i get to hit you in the stomach". its alot of fun, ill go back to that.

good posts tweakle, i love u, did u see my progress pics?
 
SublimeZM said:
its ok. how did the surgery go?


Better than I thought. Just removed tonsils and my uvula. I take 10mgs of liquid Roxicet every 4 hrs so Im pretty much just wasted 24-7. I find myself watching the clock come the 3rd hour.

Im having a nice dip of skoal right now too. :)
 
galaxy said:
Better than I thought. Just removed tonsils and my uvula. I take 10mgs of liquid Roxicet every 4 hrs so Im pretty much just wasted 24-7. I find myself watching the clock come the 3rd hour.

Im having a nice dip of skoal right now too. :)
haha nice. what does this mean for your training though?
 
i havent touched a weight in 4 months. Im about 234lbs and can still see my abs. Im taking 100mgs test enanthate a week that my doc prescribes to me. Figures all I had to do was abuse juice for 6 years to get a legal script.

Actually kinda amazing my medicine cabinet has xanax, test e, ambien and oxycodone in it and its all legal.
 
galaxy said:
i havent touched a weight in 4 months. Im about 234lbs and can still see my abs. Im taking 100mgs test enanthate a week that my doc prescribes to me. Figures all I had to do was abuse juice for 6 years to get a legal script.

Actually kinda amazing my medicine cabinet has xanax, testosterone enanthate, ambien and oxycodone in it and its all legal.
damn bro thats prettty sweet setup you got there.

why no touching weights in so long though? tired of it? other issues? if i didnt lift for 4 months id be a small fat piece of shit
 
Just no desire. Im weening down off the Lexapro tho so I can start again. Im pretty sure the lexapro was killing it. Im suprised how much I maintained tho. Makes me realize how much I over did it with the juice.

Just stick to the basics kid. Test, deca dbol for size....test prop, fina and winny to cut. and maybe some liquidex and nolvadex for titties and bloat. Just keep it simple and doses minimal and youll do well.
 
that's not a friend.. like i said many times, pick better people to surround yourself with and don't settle. if anybody in my circle pulled that shit they'd never hear from me again. i do have friends i bust their balls, but i never belittle them in front of people we don't know (or vice versa..aka game killing). all my close friends would take a bullet for me..it's that simple

at the same time, "always" having someone's back is pretty stupid, especially if your friend is being an asshole. If a fight breaks out, of course you have your friends friends back.
but it's important to be become a very good "diffuser" in some situations.

last week my friend, who has a habit of getting belligerently drunk, stole some girls drunk she ordered and said he didnt drink it, even though it was in his hand. her boyfriend came over (and was being very nice) and my friend was being a complete dickhead. im surprised my friend didnt get clocked

i stepped in, pushed friend slightly out of the way, and said let me handle this.
i bought the girl a new drink, diffused the situation and made new friends in the process (they were actually were really cool). her and her girlfriend were like "you're such a gentleman. people never do that".
 
calveless wonder said:
that's not a friend.. like i said many times, pick better people to surround yourself with and don't settle. if anybody in my circle pulled that shit they'd never hear from me again. i do have friends i bust their balls, but i never belittle them in front of people we don't know (or vice versa..aka game killing). all my close friends would take a bullet for me..it's that simple

at the same time, "always" having someone's back is pretty stupid, especially if your friend is being an asshole. If a fight breaks out, of course you have your friends friends back.
but it's important to be become a very good "diffuser" in some situations.

last week my friend, who has a habit of getting belligerently drunk, stole some girls drunk she ordered and said he didnt drink it, even though it was in his hand. her boyfriend came over (and was being very nice) and my friend was being a complete dickhead. im surprised my friend didnt get clocked

i stepped in, pushed friend slightly out of the way, and said let me handle this.
i bought the girl a new drink, diffused the situation and made new friends in the process (they were actually were really cool). her and her girlfriend were like "you're such a gentleman. people never do that".


you gentleman!
 
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