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Thunderclap47

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I'm about to start a cycle in about a week. I've only juiced twice before and it was when I was younger and not very well informed. I've done alot of research and I'm looking at running:

Week 1-4 Dianabol 25mg ED
Week 1-10 Test Enathate 400mg EW

I'm looking at HCG, and Dermacrine sustain for PCT

I didn't want to go real heavy starting out. How does this look?
 
I am a minimalist. That is I use the least amount necessary to reach my goals.
What are your goals?
Stats?
I would definately use hcg/clomid.
BTW "heavy" is a relative term when it comes to AAS. I am 250 with 8 abs and I have a few cycles under my belt.
These days 250 to 275/week is all I use and I grow nicely.
Its all diet!
 
slat1 said:
I am a minimalist. That is I use the least amount necessary to reach my goals.
What are your goals?
Stats?
I would definately use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - /clomid.
BTW "heavy" is a relative term when it comes to anabolic androgenic steroids. I am 250 with 8 abs and I have a few cycles under my belt.
These days 250 to 275/week is all I use and I grow nicely.
Its all diet!
he siad dermacrin for pct witch is far far better then clomid and you tell him use clomid...whats wrong with you.


any way thats a fine cycle run hcg 500ui's ew threw out the cycle and 2 weeks after last shot run dermacrin sustain 5 pumps ed for 4 weeks.
best of luck friend
 
looks good thunder, good info provided above already. needto you sleeping with the mods on this board? haha! where did all that k come from?
 
needtogetaas said:
he siad dermacrin for PCT - post cycle therapy - witch is far far better then clomid and you tell him use clomid...whats wrong with you.

I can only speak on that which I have used.
 
Thanks Bro's. I can't wait to start things off. Oh yeah, Slat 1. My goal is to bulk up on this cycle. That is why I want to start things off with the Dianabol. I'm currently 5' 10" and weigh 210lbs. I've been working to cut down my bf before I start this cycle. I'm currently at 15% bf. I know this cycle will have some significant bloat to it, but I can live with it.
 
thunderclap3322 said:
Thanks Bro's. I can't wait to start things off. Oh yeah, Slat 1. My goal is to bulk up on this cycle. That is why I want to start things off with the Dianabol. I'm currently 5' 10" and weigh 210lbs. I've been working to cut down my bf before I start this cycle. I'm currently at 15% bf. I know this cycle will have some significant bloat to it, but I can live with it.

Screw it. If you are bulking who cares about bloat.
The dbol should be sick. I respond too well to it. I can still slap on 15lbs with a month at 20mgs/day.
At 5'10" you are going to be a monster during this!
 
Screw it. If you are bulking who cares about bloat.
The Dianabol - methandrostenolone - should be sick. I respond too well to it. I can still slap on 15lbs with a month at 20mgs/day.
At 5'10" you are going to be a monster during this!

Thanks for the encouragement Slat! I'm already hitting the weights harder lately just thinking about starting this cycle.
 
needtogetaas said:
he siad dermacrin for PCT - post cycle therapy - witch is far far better then clomid and you tell him use clomid...whats wrong with you.


any way thats a fine cycle run HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ui's ew threw out the cycle and 2 weeks after last shot run dermacrin sustain 5 pumps ed for 4 weeks.
best of luck friend


needto some people still use clomid,including me,in combination with hcg and dermacrine sustain what's wrong with you?I know you believe strongly in your product but your answer isn't the only correct one,by any means.
 
hyp1 said:
needto some people still use clomid,including me,in combination with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - and dermacrine sustain what's wrong with you?I know you believe strongly in your product but your answer isn't the only correct one,by any means.


Needto---- Lay off the trenbolone... Just joking.. You are a good fucking bro.. Lemme get some more K bro..

Howz my back lookin in my avi?
 
hyp1 said:
needto some people still use clomid,including me,in combination with HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - and dermacrine sustain what's wrong with you?I know you believe strongly in your product but your answer isn't the only correct one,by any means.
let me explain something you deff dont know bro since you are new here on ef..
me and slat are very close.we have a lot of ef history as well as some off this board...so when I want to fuck around with my boy you can keep your ass out of it...I am starting to get sick of the way you come at me some times bro and if you were not so new you would know thats not something you want to do.

I know you want to make a name for your self so maybe you think butting heads with me is going to help you with that but I swear it ant going to help..

I have watched people like you drop of the face of the earth over and over again.

I make it a point not to fight with people around here these days but I am telling you now stay the fuck out of my way from now on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I would run the dos-t from the time you start the trenbolone till the end of cycle I would also run a low dose of Arimidex - anastrozole - .5mg ed or eod threw out the hole cycle and have Femera - letrozole - in case things get out of hand....

its pretty easy to see dermacrine sustain works and it is being used by many people on the boards in many deferent ways...some like to run dermacrine reg then dermacrin sustain,some people like to run it by its self,some people run it with a bit of Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - if not useing trenbolone/Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - ,some people like use it with clomid,some people use it with unleashed or myognxx or even with amp..one things for sure it works one its own and it is a great add to any PCT - post cycle therapy - if you dont want to use it alone...

the effects people get from it during PCT - post cycle therapy - are well known by pretty much the hole board now...better mood,no crash feeling,dick still works,not feeling depressed,full to almost full recovery and full to almost full amount of gains kept,an on an on...

me I like it simple but effective 500uis HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - well on cycle 4 weeks of dermacrin sustain PCT - post cycle therapy - after cycle.use proper aromatase inhibitor's during cycle.


if its your first cycle or your first time trying a new anabolic androgenic steroids imo you should have every thing you could ever need on hand Femera - letrozole - /Arimidex - anastrozole - /destinex all of it.
you can then start out your cycle if you like using no ai's a all and then use them as you need them.I like using a small amount of ai during cycle regardless and most people do thats why I say to do so....its all just finding out what works for you. :) :)


exact quot from me just a few post ago...just so you know I dont beleive there is only one way of doing it...there is many and I think I know them all.thank you very much.
 
needtogetaas said:
let me explain something you deff dont know bro since you are new here on ef..
me and slat are very close.we have a lot of ef history as well as some off this board...so when I want to fuck around with my boy you can keep your ass out of it...I am starting to get sick of the way you come at me some times bro and if you were not so new you would know thats not something you want to do.

I know you want to make a name for your self so maybe you think butting heads with me is going to help you with that but I swear it ant going to help..

I have watched people like you drop of the face of the earth over and over again.

I make it a point not to fight with people around here these days but I am telling you now stay the fuck out of my way from now on!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Simmer down Brotha simma down now!!!! LOL!!! Can't get enough of the Avi man reminds me of my gym....but I think I've already mentioned that once before......you're all I think about about man :rainbow: LOL!! Good to see ya Bro :D
 
Back onto topic please...

On that note, I still prefer clomid for post-cycle, but I have never tried any Derma product, so I cannot comment on that regard. We can each recommend out preferences, but in the end, it's up to the OP to use research and personal experience to find what's best for him. Everybody's different, and different people will undoubtedly respond differently to any given drug.



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samoth said:
Back onto topic please...

On that note, I still prefer clomid for post-cycle, but I have never tried any Derma product, so I cannot comment on that regard. We can each recommend out preferences, but in the end, it's up to the OP to use research and personal experience to find what's best for him. Everybody's different, and different people will undoubtedly respond differently to any given drug.



:cow:
ill kill you......
 
samoth said:
Back onto topic please...

On that note, I still prefer clomid for post-cycle, but I have never tried any Derma product, so I cannot comment on that regard. We can each recommend out preferences, but in the end, it's up to the OP to use research and personal experience to find what's best for him. Everybody's different, and different people will undoubtedly respond differently to any given drug.



:cow:

Couldn't have said it better myself!:D
 
if youve already done 2 previous cycles your receptor sights might require you to step up your dosages. my first cycle was 500mg test enanthate, 500mg deca, a week, and 60 mg. d-bol a day, hcg, nolvadex, clomid. and i gained 50lbs and kept 33lbs of it after cut. im 6'4" 265lbs. with the bigger doses and 8 to 10 week cycles i found i can retain more of my gains compared to smaller cycles. referencing my second cycle wich was the same. just my 2 cents.
 
wildstang said:
if youve already done 2 previous cycles your receptor sights might require you to step up your dosages.

... now that's a thread unto itself.

If the OP cycled some time ago, I wouldn't think he would need to do any sort of compensation along these lines.



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