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French piss off Moooslims ... again!
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bakemeacookie
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Frenchies. nuff said.
ismaele00
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The funniest (and saddest) part of this is that France has the largest islamic community in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_France
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_France
bakemeacookie
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I guess they surrendered to the mooslims years ago. I was also planning on taking over France myself but been too busy.
Headholio
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That's what I was thinking. Surrendered? Doesn't sound like it to me.
redsamurai
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what? dude they're the only ones who have sacked up the muslims. It wasn't always so but in the last year or so it appears they've decided they have had enough of these people's bullshit. These guys were burning and torturing women in their muslim ghetto's then stonewalling the french police when they showed up. They really thought they had this little independant muslim enclave right in the middle of french territory. They never got over William sacking Orange and taking the queen as his bounty.
I don't find it funny at all I find it disgusting
+1000000000000000000
digimon7068
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yeah...they'll piss them off, then they'll run and hide behind the marine corps...the french are pussies...they were born with their hands up.
bunch of fucking pussies
jnevin
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Time heals all wounds?
yep, but i think they stopped all immigration... but like the cockroaches... illegal aliens are everywhere..
You know these are the kind of threads that make me not come on these forums too often anymore. The kind that almost make me feel guilty because I was born in a certain country. Just because there are fanatics who do crazy shit, doesn't mean every muslim is a criminal or racist or w/e. These comments make me sick. "Fuck all muslims!" wow...real mature guys.
ismaele00
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That's the main idea. It's not funny at all, the funny is that the country with the largest mooslim comunity is the only one who mess with they (and they are they selves).
I blame the media. They perpetuate this shit. I have Muslim friends who are so sweet and peaceful.
I do not condone violence and I'm def. against wtf is happening...but let me understand something. People are outraged about how muslims around the world are holding America accountable for the actions of ONE man...
History lesson?
America invaded Iraq to get Saddam Hussein (one man)
America invaded Afganistan to get Bin Laden (one man)
Hypocracy much?
History lesson?
America invaded Iraq to get Saddam Hussein (one man)
America invaded Afganistan to get Bin Laden (one man)
Hypocracy much?
ismaele00
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I guess you've not been recently in France... not Paris, the real France, the non-touristic France... instead of France it looks like Iran...
I think you guys are not understanding what I want to say. I care a shit if people are white, black, blond, asian or green... what I don't like is being in Europe and feeling in Iraq.
This is not the United Nations, this is Europe, we have our culture, we are not a continent made by inmigrants but history, in Law we call it a "natural" continent or a natural country... I want to be in France and feel that I am in France, not in Kabul...
And this has nothing to do with tha race, it has to do with culture.
so what you're saying is the American people are brainwashed by the media and don't have enough common sense to realise that an entire nation cannot be ALL bad?
I'm taking courses in Russian next year bro. I wanna be semi-fluent by the time the Olympics go to Russia. I wanna be there for the Olympics.
You serious? That's cool man! My buddy Malek is from Lebanon and has been teaching me some Lebanese
ismaele00
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Are you Russian? I don't know why I though you were Canadian...
I love your country man, I've been in Moscow, I don't know, five or six times...
you cannot truly believe that America invaded Iraq or Afghanistan to bring safety and freedom to the people...do you? Are you as delusional as you are misled?
Another history lesson:
CIA trained Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein...they raised these monsters and gave them everything they need to nurture them into even bigger monsters....when they were done with them, they became the enemy of peace.
Let me give you another history lesson:
Before the Belfor agreement where Great Britain came together with the USA and decided to overthrow Palestine overnight and give it to the Jews, became the Jews were becoming too much of a headache in Europe, there was peace in the middle east. Why would you put a Jewish state in the middle of an entire land mass of muslim countries and give them all the military and political support? I'll answer that. To create choas and an illusion that the area needs US interference to "save lives" as you put it....
While we're on topic, if you truly believe the twin towers wasnt actually an inside operation you must be on crack. The US military and intelligence is so advanced that top planes simply cannot enter US airspace within a mile of the damn tower without being blown to shit...
People need to wake the fuck up and realise that they are living lie...
Muslim countries have the lowest rate of rape, murder and other hienous crimes than any other country in the world. There's the reason for that. Don't talk about something you obviously know nothing about. I've lived in the middle east. I've been to Europe, all over, I've lived in Canada and I've lived in the US temp. So I think I have a slightly better perspective than you.
I pity a nation where someone can go to jail for a very long time for having too much weed on him, but can get off in 5-10 after raping and molesting a child on good behavior. You wanna talk about morals, ethics and what's right or wrong? Please give me a fucking break. A guy raped a girl not too far from where I live and got 4 years....4 fucking years....in most muslim countries, he'd be killed....I think I like tha latter solution better.
ismaele00
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I knew CIA trained Bin Laden.
What has it to do with that? I'm not talking about governments, I'm talking about cultures.
If you go today to Iraq with a t-shir with the American national flag, probably you'll be burn.
If I go to NYC with a t-shirt saying, "God bless 9/11", people will say "you're a son of a bitch", "your mom is this or that"... nothing will happen to me (you have the most clear example with the Phelps family).
There is OBVIOUSLY a huge difference between our cultures, and there is a huge difference in how our people is and how their people is.
Maybe you think you have the same rights in Canada than in Iran...
If our culture is morally superior (at least if you belive in democracy and human rights)? Of course. If we have bad people? Of course. If they have good people? Of course.
What has it to do with that? I'm not talking about governments, I'm talking about cultures.
If you go today to Iraq with a t-shir with the American national flag, probably you'll be burn.
If I go to NYC with a t-shirt saying, "God bless 9/11", people will say "you're a son of a bitch", "your mom is this or that"... nothing will happen to me (you have the most clear example with the Phelps family).
There is OBVIOUSLY a huge difference between our cultures, and there is a huge difference in how our people is and how their people is.
Maybe you think you have the same rights in Canada than in Iran...
If our culture is morally superior (at least if you belive in democracy and human rights)? Of course. If we have bad people? Of course. If they have good people? Of course.
ismaele00
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Which countries? Saudi Arabia? Qatar? These are not Arab countries. These are moderate countries, with a phantastic democracy (the Emir says yes, and yes is, and the lesser penalty is "only" of 12 years of prison; the Emir says no, and no is...)
I pity a nation were women can't drive. Where you can't kiss your woman in public places. Where you could be flagellate. Where you could be stoned.
Where you don't rape, not because of morals, but because of your hands could be in a high risk of being cutted...
My parents are diplomatics, I don't think you wanna bet who of us have travelled the most and who has lived far away of home more time...
redsamurai
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with the exceptions of planes being blown out of the sky within miles of the towers pre 9/11....everything Alcatraz just posted is 100% on the money. Traz, a plane going 5 or 600mph can cover the distance from the local air traffic lanes to the towers in a very very short amount of time. Now, i'm sure there's some missile defense batteries in place.
I 100% agree with your assessment of how we fugged the middle east. In fact the only terrorists in the middle east prior to 1948 were the jews, and that's 100% accurate. And you know who else would agree with your assessment if he were here? Albert fucking Einstein. He wrote a letter to the Jewish caucus in 1939 saying reclaiming a jewish state by force would lead to a 200 year war. Now think about that year, 1939...the jews weren't getting gassed yet in Germany yet they were concocting plans to forcefully retake Jerusalem well before the holocaust. But nobody in the world cared at the time, you jews voluntarily left that region centuries ago why should we militarily give you that land back? 6 million gassed jews later, allegedly, and they had their promised land back. Convenient.
ps. I hate all humans.
digimon7068
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i think there was a little matter of strategic positioning as well but, no matter...exterminating those two men (and i use that term very loosely) is a good enough reason for me...especially bin laden...good riddance.
why did you move out of Lebanon? serious question.
digimon7068
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i don't know whether that's true or not but, i seem to remember my old man telling me, more than once..."son, i brought your ass into this world and i can take you back out again."
redsamurai
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with the exceptions of planes being blown out of the sky within miles of the towers pre 9/11....everything Alcatraz just posted is 100% on the money. Traz, a plane going 5 or 600mph can cover the distance from the local air traffic lanes to the towers in a very very short amount of time. Now, i'm sure there's some missile defense batteries in place.
I 100% agree with your assessment of how we fugged the middle east. In fact the only terrorists in the middle east prior to 1948 were the jews, and that's 100% accurate. And you know who else would agree with your assessment if he were here? Albert fucking Einstein. He wrote a letter to the Jewish caucus in 1939 saying reclaiming a jewish state by force would lead to a 200 year war. Now think about that year, 1939...the jews weren't getting gassed yet in Germany yet they were concocting plans to forcefully retake Jerusalem well before the holocaust. But nobody in the world cared at the time, you jews voluntarily left that region centuries ago why should we militarily give you that land back? 6 million gassed jews later, allegedly, and they had their promised land back. Convenient.
ps. I hate all humans.
redsamurai
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how do you not know by now that it's true? we groomed Hussein in the 80's to fuck with Iran cause we were sour about them overthrowing the POS Shaw that we took great pains to install there. Bin Laden was trained against the Soviets cause we were still sore at the rooskies for lending the vietcong a hand. See how these things go?
digimon7068
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eh, you hear so many stories about how we tamper with other countries and help put various people in power, etc...it's kinda hard to separate the wheat from the chaff...i generally don't believe a lot of what i hear and read...however, that doesn't stop me from citing it as gospel when the mood strikes me...i'm kinda hypocritical like that...
digimon7068
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dude...it's balfour...good thing this is a history lesson and not a spelling lesson
and, correct me if i'm wrong (i'm not much of an an ancient history buff) but, wasn't jerusalem (the israeli city) established around 1,000 b.c....like almost 3,000 years before the balfour declaration??
redsamurai
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What’s New on the Iran 1953 Coup in the New York Times Article (April 16, 2000, front page) and the Documents Posted on the Web”
By Professor Mark Gasiorowski
19 April 2000
There is not much in the NYT article itself that is not covered in my article on the coup (“The 1953 Coup d’Etat in Iran” published in 1987 in the International Journal of Middle East Studies, and available in the Gulf2000 archives) or other sources on the coup. The most interesting new tidbit here is that the CIA’s agents harassed religious leaders and bombed one’s home in order to turn them against Mossadeq. The article does not say, but this was probably done by Iranians working in the BEDAMN network, which is described in my article. There are also some new details on how that US persuaded the shah to agree to the coup, including a statement that Assadollah Rashidian was involved in this effort and that General Schwartzkopf, Sr. played a larger role in this than was previously known. There are also a few details reported in the article that I knew about but chose not to reveal, including that Donald Wilber and Norman Derbyshire developed the original coup plan and that the plan was known as TPAJAX, rather than simply AJAX. (The TP prefix indicated that the operation was to be carried out in Iran.) The NYT article does not say anything about a couple of matters that remain controversial about the coup, including whether Ayatollah Kashani played a role in organizing the crowds and whether the CIA team organized “fake” Tudeh Party crowds as part of the effort. There may be something on these issues in the 200-page history itself.
Much more important than the NYT article are the two documents appended to the summary document giving operational plans for the coup. These contain a wealth of interesting information. They indicate that the British played a larger—though still subordinate—role in the coup than was previously known, providing part of the financing for it and using their intelligence network (led by the Rashidian brothers) to influence members of the parliament and do other things. The CIA described the coup plan as “quasi-legal,” referring to the fact that the shah legally dismissed Mossadeq but presumably acknowledging that he did not do so on his own initiative. These documents make clear that the CIA was prepared to go forward with the coup even if the shah opposed it. There is a suggestion that the CIA use counterfeit Iranian currency to somehow show that Mossadeq was ruining the economy, though I’m not sure this was ever done. The documents indicate that Fazlollah Zahedi and his military colleagues were given large sums of money (at least $50,000) before the coup, perhaps to buy their support. Most interestingly, they indicate that various clerical leaders and organizations—whose names are blanked out—were to play a major role in the coup. Finally, the author(s) of the London plan—presumably Wilber and Derbyshire—say some rather nasty things about the Iranians, including that there is a “recognized incapacity of Iranians to plan or act in a thoroughly logical manner.”
Perhaps the most general conclusion that can be drawn from these documents is that the CIA extensively stage-managed the entire coup, not only carrying it out but also preparing the groundwork for it by subordinating various important Iranian political actors and using propaganda and other instruments to influence public opinion against Mossadeq. This is a point that was made in my article and other published accounts, but it is strongly confirmed in these documents. In my view, this thoroughly refutes the argument that is commonly made in Iranian monarchist exile circles that the coup was a legitimate “popular uprising” on behalf of the shah.
In reply to Nikki Keddie’s (UCLA) questions about whether the NYT article got the story right, I would say it is impossible to tell until the 200-page document comes out. Nikki’s additional comment that these documents may not be entirely factual but may instead reveal certain biases held by their authors is an important one. Wilber was not in Iran while the coup was occurring, and his account of it can only have been based on his debriefing of Kermit Roosevelt and other participants. Some facts were inevitably lost or misinterpreted in this process, especially since this was a rapidly changing series of events. This being said, I doubt that there will be any major errors in the 200-page history. While Wilber had his biases, he certainly was a competent historian. I can think of no reason he might have wanted to distort this account.
Here are a few other notes. It is my understanding that these documents were given to the NYT well before Secretary Albright’s recent speech, implying that they were not an attempt to upstage or add to the speech by the unnamed “former official” who provided them to the NYT. I think there is still some reason to hope that the 200-page document will be released with excisions by the NYT. I certainly hope they do so.
digimon7068
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redsamurai
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*shah
thanks digi...lols
50 Years After the CIA?s First Overthrow of a Democratically Elected Foreign Government We Take a Look at the 1953 US Backed Coup in Iran
New York Times Special Report: The C.I.A. in Iran
The 1953 Coup D'etat in Iran
How America crushed democracies
The Mossadegh Project :: Mohammad Mossadegh .com
digimon7068
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eh...1953? that's like being pissed at me (for being white) because your ancestors were slaves...my family didn't come here until 1911...and i wasn't around in 1953.
redsamurai
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Right, so let's say Romney wins the election but 2 years later with the help of the Chinese and Russian spy agencies Obama comes back to power in a coup. What, you'll be salty for a decade or so then let bygones be bygones? Or are y'all gonna impound in your kids from the moment their born how the Chinese and Russian bastards helped swindle the U.S out of it's grand future....?? You know which scenario plays out.
The coup in 1953 has irrevocably shaped Iran. Mossadegh was one of the last advocacy's of democracy in the middle east. After what happened in 1948 with Palestine and then Iran in 53...the middle east decided, and you can't fualt them for it, that the west is an exploitative force that doesn't have their best interests in mind whatsoever. What you're looking at is kind of the genesis of all the worlds ills and it really sucks, at least for me, that this country seems to be right fucking smack in the middle of it with some seriously dishonorable to the utter core behavior. I'm not saying we need to let that monkey achmadinijad run around with a nuke but at the same time if we don't address what we did there in 53 we will "NEVER" solve the Iranian problem. There has to be an accounting, you know that which grown ass men do? You have to own up to what you did. Now who do we know that tried to do some of that but then got immediately blasted for unrightfully apologizing for the greatest country on earth that ain't never did no wrong...?? hmmmm??
isn't that because the women can't really win a case if they even report it, and if they report it and lose the case (which I understand is usually the circumstances) they are then punished?
It seems a woman in a muslim country has little rights or power to enforce what rights they may have.
Vy govoris po-russki?
Beat me to it.
Theres a difference...a HUGE one...between how many crimes happen and how many are actually reported/logged.
Even a muslim country as progressive as Turkey...a country that will be a world power in 20 years or so...is still backwards to the extent that there is institutional racism against the Kurds.
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UA_Iron
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Muslims are overly sensitive.
I'm all for Ron Paul too.
I'm all for Ron Paul too.
digimon7068
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yeah...they're just great...they start shit and then as soon as someone calls them to the mat, they put up their hands and surrender and then expect us to save them...fuck the french...bunch of poosies.
mtndoall
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I agree but its not Ron Paul won't do nothing
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UA_Iron
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Doing nothing is fine. These arent exactly inexpensive conquests that we lead into the shithole of the world (middle east). Those guys seem to be their own worst enemy, let them self-destruct.
The best thing we could do is end our oil dependency. You don't defeat them with weapons, you defeat them with $$$. How? I wish I knew, the problem statement is there though. There's enough brainpower to solve this problem.
surprisingly, that happens with muslims outside of muslim countries....fanatical ones...that shit doesnt happen back home...maybe in old rural areas, but 95% of the coutry is civilized...seriously media hs to change...
redsamurai
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i think it happens more than you're willing to ackowledge traz....even in the more modern/progressive countries like Iran and Egypt. Honestly I blame the jews...it all goes back to the old testament which IS the basis of your religion as well. So these hebrew tribes running around the desert 5000 years ago are still having their good laugh.
Lol!
bro Iran and Egypt are not great examples of progressive countries lol
Headholio
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So name a progressive middle eastern country, other than Israel?
redsamurai
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The Iranian regime is not progressive but the Iranians themselves for the most part are considered some of the more progressive people in the middle east. Egypt "for sure" was considered progressive under Mubarak but probably only because he allowed the U.S to rendition people off into his torture chambers.
PICK3
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we should just give them 49 acres and a mule would that be enough?? having the leader of the most powerful country in the world, some would argue the last super power bow to them in greetings?? oh wait he did that already..
maybe if we allow obama to reduce the nuclear power of the usa to 100 devices that will make people like us??
what a leader.. worse than jimmy carter ever was
right??
dude, just because a country has a foreign embassy doesnt make it progressive...
C0LUMB0
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Tren for 10 weeks....try and get the bodyfat down ,will make it easier for them to drag you.
....and you dont even need to worry bout pct
redsamurai
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no we should leave them and the middle east the fuck alone. They would be fine with that bargain i assure you...no restitution needed just don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
redsamurai
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Well it is a marker for some kind of progressive relationships with other foreign entities though right?
Iran is a country with an extremely progressive population who are unfortunately represented by an insufferable douchebag.
Throw a different leader in there + fast forward 10 years and Iran will compete with Turkey as far as Muslim countries we want to be friends with.
Why should they get 49 when we were only supposed to get 40? (Which we didn't get anyway, did somebody fall asleep during black history month?)
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PICK3
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redsamurai
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exactly, and if we play our cards right we can entice more Iranian women like this one http://theupscalesociety.com/Gallery/68_persiamonir4.jpg
to do porn. It's winning all around.
PICK3
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I don't want to befriend anyone who smells like a goat!
Headholio
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Here's what's going on in Iran:
TESTIMONY TO SENATE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN REALTIONS
INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN IRAN
redsamurai
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Not that i think it's completely inconceivable that this shit goes on in Iran, I also take anything our govt says about other govts they don't like..........with one singular grain of salt. Remember Hussein's sons? Like if they did the amount of raping that our govt and media were accusing them of they would never have come out of their supposed little rape dungeons. I mean Wilt Chamberlain blush with envy at that performance you know. So I dunno....I implicitly trust nothing i read that has the slightest potential for an ulterior motive behind it. I know for a fact that the U.S govt is still raucously butt sore about 1977 and the ouster of our carefully installed Shaw. I mean the CIA went to great pains to install that puppet so like I completely understand.
digimon7068
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stoning is the most fucked up form of punishment that i can imagine...i mean throwing rocks at a muh-fugger until they're dead??? jeezuz...my compassion and empathy genes aren't necessarily all that well-developed, but that shit flat out gives me the hee-bee-jee-bees
Headholio
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stoning is the most fucked up form of punishment that i can imagine...i mean throwing rocks at a muh-fugger until they're dead??? jeezuz...my compassion and empathy genes aren't necessarily all that well-developed, but that shit flat out gives me the hee-bee-jee-bees
No shit.
But limb amputations don't sound so great either.
ismaele00
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