I saw him at the arnold about a month ago, and he is definately smaller, but to me he looks harder and more defined. He was still respectable in size, he is NOTHING compared to the pros. I am bigger than him, i am only 5'8" and 205, my arms are 19", but he doesnt look small by any means. The thing i noticed about him was his neck. He definately had the sylvester stallone rocky III anorexic neck going on. His face looked sunk in and unhealthy. Also seen roland kickinger, and i swear if you cut his and franks heads off you would not be able to tell their bodys apart(at least in a tank top), they are almost exactly the same size, and have the same "look" going on. They are extremely tall compared to me, with decent size and good cuts, i personally want to be a little bigger though.-WULF