Forged Lean Mass cycle debrief

[nouse4one]

Thank you Needto awhile back i ordered some stuff from your site Need To Build Muscle Inc. . When it got here i thought you messed up my order, but you actually hooked me up with a free bottle of forged lean mass since you where out of the beast, your company is the best i have ever dealt with and your products are the real deal.

Before starting my 4 week cycle of Forged Lean Mass, i ran a search to learn more about dosing & sides. I couldn't find shit about it on any forums.

So i hope if no one has beat me to it yet, this may serve as a unbiased reference for this product.

First of all this is my experience with it, and every ones different. For example i had a slight allergic reaction to forged lean mass (sneezing and shit) after about a week and tedious process of elimination i figured out it was the forged lean mass and took small amount of benadrill with it and i was good to go with out any allergic reactions.

I choose to do a 4 week cycle @ 2 pills a day.
1st after breakfast
2nd 1hour before my work out.

The week before i started the cycle i started taking Milk thistle 2 times a day, and continued through-out my cycle for liver protection. Forged Lean Mass is harsh on your liver.

After my first week on Forged lean mass I learned a few things that i wish some one would have told me.

1. You will prolly not be able to sleep if you take it with-in 7 hours of bedtime
2. N.O supplements and Forged Lean Mass = Bad Experience
3. Forged Lean Mass increases blood pressure .. Alot (Take Hawthorn Berry to Counter Act this)
4. Forged Lean Mass will make you moderately aggressive and slightly anxious

Ok #2 N.O supps and Forged Lean Mass = Bad Experience? I have never had a panic attack or a heart attack before, how ever i litteraly thought i was having a heart attack, untill i wasnt dead after 5 mins and then i started to recall symptoms of a panic attack from a psych class a took in college and found my self having a panic attack this was no fun.

Did i stop taking the forged? Nope
Did i stop taking the N.O? Yes i did, and i didnt have that problem since.

Having all that said here are a few questions i wish i could have found before i started this product.

Did i gain? Yes 9 pounds.
Water weight? No, Lean and this is 2 weeks after my cycle 9 solid pounds
PCT? Yes no question, i am still on pct week 3 im using reversitol and have not had gyno
Side Effects (PERSONAL EXPERIENCE): Yes Aggressiveness, slightly anxious, Killed my sex drive, body pumps, high blood pressure.

Pros: This is basicaly a steroid....that is legal, Great for a dry gain cycle.
Cons: Side effects

Personaly i have allready bought two more bottles, and waiting untill my next cycle. I have all ways had a very hard time gaining and have tried all the main stream pro-hormons with out any results. This is the real deal, if you can handle the sides.

*If you have any other questions about forged lean mass just ask.

 

[OrbitNutrition.com]

good review bro, thanks for sharing.

 

[needtogetaas]

Nice nice

 

[mataleao707]

I am just looking for a few answers about this product. My first question is that every other supplement site that i could find that use to have forged lean mass has it listed as being superdrol and phera plex. this is superdrol and epistane. just wondering why the difference when the bottles pictured are the same. i did order two bottles from orbit and when it got here the bottles say to take 1 pill if your under 200lbs and 2 pills if your over 200lbs. im 180lbs and im wondering if 2 pills would be too high of a dose. the bottles also say weeks 1-4 take lean mass and liver support. weeks 5-8 atd or bromo. with lean mass having atd in it would i need to take more than whats in the pill already? should i continue with atd or bromo after the 4 week cycle?next it says weeks 7-11 are for pct. shouldnt i start pct right after week 4 when i stop taking the forged. last question is that lean mass is advertised as having bromo in it also at 5mg. my bottle says it has bioperine in it at 5 mg. bioperine seems to help with the absorption of the superdrol and epistane but its not bromo. im just curious about the difference there and if i need to take bromo. sorry for the long drawn out reply but im just trying to get a little more info before i start taking it. thanks for any answers you can give.

 

[skyling35]

I am just looking for a few answers about this product. My first question is that every other supplement site that i could find that use to have forged lean mass has it listed as being superdrol and phera plex. this is superdrol and epistane. just wondering why the difference when the bottles pictured are the same. i did order two bottles from orbit and when it got here the bottles say to take 1 pill if your under 200lbs and 2 pills if your over 200lbs. im 180lbs and im wondering if 2 pills would be too high of a dose. the bottles also say weeks 1-4 take lean mass and liver support. weeks 5-8 atd or bromo. with lean mass having atd in it would i need to take more than whats in the pill already? should i continue with atd or bromo after the 4 week cycle?next it says weeks 7-11 are for pct. shouldnt i start pct right after week 4 when i stop taking the forged. last question is that lean mass is advertised as having bromo in it also at 5mg. my bottle says it has bioperine in it at 5 mg. bioperine seems to help with the absorption of the superdrol and epistane but its not bromo. im just curious about the difference there and if i need to take bromo. sorry for the long drawn out reply but im just trying to get a little more info before i start taking it. thanks for any answers you can give.

The Forged Lean Mass I have here is Phera and superdrol.

 

[andrew732]

Stims can definitely cause serious sides when on cycle, I always tell people to sway from using stims while on cycle unless they are used to hormonal manipulation. Make sure to take some adaptogens such as bacopa, rhodiola rosea, holy basil, cordyceps.

 

[OrbitNutrition.com]

I am just looking for a few answers about this product. My first question is that every other supplement site that i could find that use to have forged lean mass has it listed as being superdrol and phera plex. this is superdrol and epistane. just wondering why the difference when the bottles pictured are the same. i did order two bottles from orbit and when it got here the bottles say to take 1 pill if your under 200lbs and 2 pills if your over 200lbs. im 180lbs and im wondering if 2 pills would be too high of a dose. the bottles also say weeks 1-4 take lean mass and liver support. weeks 5-8 atd or bromo. with lean mass having atd in it would i need to take more than whats in the pill already? should i continue with atd or bromo after the 4 week cycle?next it says weeks 7-11 are for pct. shouldnt i start pct right after week 4 when i stop taking the forged. last question is that lean mass is advertised as having bromo in it also at 5mg. my bottle says it has bioperine in it at 5 mg. bioperine seems to help with the absorption of the superdrol and epistane but its not bromo. im just curious about the difference there and if i need to take bromo. sorry for the long drawn out reply but im just trying to get a little more info before i start taking it. thanks for any answers you can give.

start at one a day and see how you tolerate that then bump up to two pills per day and see if you can handle that. that would give you 30mg of superdrol each day.

 

[02-Z]

I ran diesel and beast together which is basically the same as Lean Mass and it is an absolutely killer stack! I put on nearly 20 lbs, you can see the 8 pack now so it helped me shred up, my vascularity is up from my already normally vascular appearance and I finally broke the plateau on my bench and other exercises. I can't wait to run another beast/diesel cycle in the spring to get ready for the summer. The best part for me was that I had zero side effects except one morning I got back pumps that lasted about half an hour until I took some taurine/potassium.

 

[mataleao707]

The Forged Lean Mass I have here is Phera and superdrol.

thats why im wondering if something got changed or what because if i google the compounds in transforms forged lean mass that are advertised on other websites it comes up as superdrol and phera. if i google whats on the bottles that i received a couple of days ago from orbit its superdrol and epistane.plus theres no bromo which was advertised by orbit also so im just wondering whats up with the discrepancies. not to be a pain but i want to know that what im putting in my body is a legit product and the only answers that i got to my questions were on dosage. im not inferring anything here i would just like someone to clarify these things for me.

 

[OrbitNutrition.com]

thats why im wondering if something got changed or what because if i google the compounds in transforms forged lean mass that are advertised on other websites it comes up as superdrol and phera. if i google whats on the bottles that i received a couple of days ago from orbit its superdrol and epistane.plus theres no bromo which was advertised by orbit also so im just wondering whats up with the discrepancies. not to be a pain but i want to know that what im putting in my body is a legit product and the only answers that i got to my questions were on dosage. im not inferring anything here i would just like someone to clarify these things for me.

the manufacturer changed the ingredients from the old bottles of superdrol, phera to superdrol epi. thats why other sites still show the phera on it they may have the previous version still. as for the bromo it was supposed to be in it send me a pm and i will make it right for you bro. hope that helps.

 

[2evil]

Good thread. Things I would run with this to eliminate some of the sides you mentioned and some you didn't (like possible aching joints):

Best option is a low dose of test. 150-200mg EW is plenty.
Second best would be Dermacrine 5 days on 2 days off. On your 2 days off run Sustain at a double dose if possible. Acts like HCG and helps your libido (as will the Dermacrine) and PCT much easier.

Just some thoughts...

 

[nouse4one]

I am just looking for a few answers about this product. My first question is that every other supplement site that i could find that use to have forged lean mass has it listed as being superdrol and phera plex. this is superdrol and epistane. just wondering why the difference when the bottles pictured are the same. i did order two bottles from orbit and when it got here the bottles say to take 1 pill if your under 200lbs and 2 pills if your over 200lbs. im 180lbs and im wondering if 2 pills would be too high of a dose. the bottles also say weeks 1-4 take lean mass and liver support. weeks 5-8 atd or bromo. with lean mass having atd in it would i need to take more than whats in the pill already? should i continue with atd or bromo after the 4 week cycle?next it says weeks 7-11 are for pct. shouldnt i start pct right after week 4 when i stop taking the forged. last question is that lean mass is advertised as having bromo in it also at 5mg. my bottle says it has bioperine in it at 5 mg. bioperine seems to help with the absorption of the superdrol and epistane but its not bromo. im just curious about the difference there and if i need to take bromo. sorry for the long drawn out reply but im just trying to get a little more info before i start taking it. thanks for any answers you can give.

Ok bro i ran into this as well, there are two versions of Forged Lean Mass out there. What i ran was Forged Lean Mass (original formula)

2a, 17a, dimethyl-etiocholan-3-one, 17b-ol 15mg (superdrol)[Lean muscle, Strength, Reduce Water Retention]
17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol 15mg (phera-plex)[Explosive Strength Gains]
1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione 25mg (ATD)[Aromatase Inhibitor and Reduce Water Retention]

I weight 179 pounds and I started at two capsuals a day (110mg) . Only because i have a long track record with pro-hormons and felt comfortable doing so if you have never done a cycle like this take my advice start at one a day for the first week.

You def got a different bottle then me, mine doesnt say shit about liver support or cycle info for that matter. Taking ATD or BROMO weeks 5-8 doesnt sound like a bad idea but i can not stress the pct enuf if you do not take it seriously the forged lean mass will fuck your hormons up. I dont want to go against what the bottle says but i just ran the 4 week cycle then went strait into pct and would recommend it.

I hope i helped im afraid i dont know enuf to tell you about the difference between bioperine and bromo, the forged lean mass i took had ADT instead of bioperine. Good luck on your cycle

 

[nouse4one]

damn i cant spell

 

[mataleao707]

Ok bro i ran into this as well, there are two versions of Forged Lean Mass out there. What i ran was Forged Lean Mass (original formula)

2a, 17a, dimethyl-etiocholan-3-one, 17b-ol 15mg (superdrol)[Lean muscle, Strength, Reduce Water Retention]
17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol 15mg (phera-plex)[Explosive Strength Gains]
1,4,6-Androstatriene-3,17-dione 25mg (ATD)[Aromatase Inhibitor and Reduce Water Retention]

I weight 179 pounds and I started at two capsuals a day (110mg) . Only because i have a long track record with pro-hormons and felt comfortable doing so if you have never done a cycle like this take my advice start at one a day for the first week.

You def got a different bottle then me, mine doesnt say shit about liver support or cycle info for that matter. Taking ATD or BROMO weeks 5-8 doesnt sound like a bad idea but i can not stress the pct enuf if you do not take it seriously the forged lean mass will fuck your hormons up. I dont want to go against what the bottle says but i just ran the 4 week cycle then went strait into pct and would recommend it.

I hope i helped im afraid i dont know enuf to tell you about the difference between bioperine and bromo, the forged lean mass i took had ADT instead of bioperine. Good luck on your cycle

yeah this bottle says how to cycle it on the side towards the botttom. i already planned on doing PCT right after week 4.even though it says later. i have ran cycles of tren and monsterdrol before so i know not to wait.this also has ATD in it but the bottle says to take atd or bromo weeks 5-8. im guessing after im done with the four week cycle of lean mass that has ATD at 10mg in it already i should continue to take ATD or Bromo after with my PCT? from what i read about the bioperine it seems to help with the uptake of the other compounds. thanks to everyone for helping out with the answers. thanks to orbit for coming through for me and explaining what was up and taking care of me.

 

[2evil]

yeah this bottle says how to cycle it on the side towards the botttom. i already planned on doing PCT right after week 4.even though it says later. i have ran cycles of tren and monsterdrol before so i know not to wait.this also has ATD in it but the bottle says to take atd or bromo weeks 5-8. im guessing after im done with the four week cycle of lean mass that has ATD at 10mg in it already i should continue to take ATD or Bromo after with my PCT? from what i read about the bioperine it seems to help with the uptake of the other compounds. thanks to everyone for helping out with the answers. thanks to orbit for coming through for me and explaining what was up and taking care of me.

With the half life being so short (8-10 hours) if you don't have prolactin issues on cycle you should be fine during PCT. If you do have issues I'd skip the Bromo (unless you already have it) and just go for Dostinex (Cabergoline.)

 

[toniportray]

Orbit definitely made it right for me after a FLM order mixup. Thanks again to Orbit for his excellence, generosity, and honesty. I've been having a positive experience thus far with FLM. Up about 6lbs at the third week, and this is 6lbs past where I've been stuck for the last 4 years. I don't percieve any size increases or increased leanness yet looking at myself, but the weight has to be going somewhere and I'm definitely not getting fatter so it's working. Strength is definitely up, but I've gone from feeling energized from FLM to rather intense lethargy during workouts. I just lose my energy and motivation faster than normal. I'm also going to start taking coffee to counteract this during workout fatigue, but I'll keep it easy after hearing the experience from the original post. It just means I have to push a lot harder. I'd really like to see my pecs get bigger, but apart from my calves, these are the hardest thing for me to bulk up. I can do the whole pec flex thing, but my lower pecs just don't seem to respond to flys, presses, and the like. I should add that my results thus far have been on SINGLE FLM capsules, working up to 20mg Beast/15mg Epi, and then 25mg Beast/15mg Epi. I have Beastdrol and Epistrong along with the FLM, so I can transition more smoothly from the 15mg Superdrol/12mg Epi rather than immediately jumping to 30mg Superdrol from 2 FLM capsules. I'm impressed to be where I am with only running 20mg Superdrol/15mg Epi. I'll step it up to 25mg and then 30mg as we get closer to the end and see what effect the increasing dose will have on my growth, energy, etc.