For the perfect body, would you take something that could possibly end your life?

[Punschkrapfen]

DNP does not only burn fat fast, it has also a muscle sparing effect during this process. And some input suggests that it also help in cycle recovery. Obviously the benefits are so great that they outweigh the risk for many.
Why one is not able to buy and use this drug (or any other) for his own body is a shame. It violates basic human rights not to be able to do with his own body what one wants. No one, and especially no government thug has the right to control what i want to ingest into my own body.

 

[Zyglamail]

FreakMonster, its obviously beyond your realm of comprehension and you are not going to get people who want to use it to change thier minds, so why are you trying?

Life is a risk, some people like to live on the edge, look at the adrenaline junkies (I have been known as one myself) who free climb, sky dive and do all sorts of things the population deems as insane or overly risky. Its not your life, you will never understand so let it lay and move on.

 

[FreakMonster]

FreakMonster, its obviously beyond your realm of comprehension and you are not going to get people who want to use it to change thier minds, so why are you trying?

Life is a risk, some people like to live on the edge, look at the adrenaline junkies (I have been known as one myself) who free climb, sky dive and do all sorts of things the population deems as insane or overly risky. Its not your life, you will never understand so let it lay and move on.

Bro, you can do what you want to your body but just remember that nothing in life comes to you that easy without repercussions later in life.

Personally I would never put something in my body that is considered to be HIGHLY toxic to humans.


2,4-Dinitrophenol is considered to be highly toxic to humans, with a lethal oral dose of 14 to 43 mg/kg.

The acute (short-term) effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans through oral exposure consist of nausea, vomiting, sweating, dizziness, headaches, and loss of weight.

Long-term oral exposure to 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans has resulted in the formation of cataracts and skin lesions and has caused effects on the bone marrow, central nervous system (CNS), and cardiovascular system.

The Reference Dose (RfD) for 2,4-dinitrophenol is 0.002 mg/kg/d.a The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimates that consumption of this dose or less, over a lifetime, would not likely result in the occurrence of chronic, noncancer effects.b
EPA has determined that there are inadequate data for the establishment of a Reference Concentration (RfC) for 2,4-dinitrophenol.

No information is available on the developmental or reproductive effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. Animal studies have reported fetal growth inhibition, but no birth defects in the offspring of animals fed 2,4-dinitrophenol.

No information is available on the carcinogenic effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. The limited animal data have not noted tumor formation in animals fed 2,4-dinitrophenol. EPA has not classified 2,4-dinitrophenol for carcinogenicity.

Inhalation studies are not available for 2,4-dinitrophenol. However, oral studies are available and a risk management decision can be made to assume that the hazards resulting from oral exposure may be indicative of that resulting from inhalation exposure.

 

[Zyglamail]

I have read all the hoopla and bullshit, but just to keep this going since its hasnt turned into a flame war(good job by the way) I will point out some things I find rather inetersting in the last post you made.

Long-term oral exposure to 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans has resulted in the formation of cataracts and skin lesions and has caused effects on the bone marrow, central nervous system (CNS), and cardiovascular system.

For one, long term exposure and dose is not defined. In the 1930's 1 in 100,000 people develpoed cataracts, which is likely your chance of getting them without using DNP anyways. In my case I have allready had cataracts in both eyes and have had my lses removed so its a mute point, I cant get them again.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) estimates that consumption of this dose or less, over a lifetime, would not likely result in the occurrence of chronic, noncancer effects.b EPA has determined that there are inadequate data for the establishment of a Reference Concentration (RfC) for 2,4-dinitrophenol.

Now, in the above quote, look at whats being said. The word estimates pops up and then in reference to a lifetime of exposure. Then right below that they admit the have inadequate evidence to even establish a reference concentration.

No information is available on the developmental or reproductive effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. Animal studies have reported fetal growth inhibition, but no birth defects in the offspring of animals fed 2,4-dinitrophenol

Now, they are saying there is no info available on developmenta or reporductive effects in humans. No birth defects in animals.

No information is available on the carcinogenic effects of 2,4-dinitrophenol in humans. The limited animal data have not noted tumor formation in animals fed 2,4-dinitrophenol. EPA has not classified 2,4-dinitrophenol for carcinogenicity.

Next, we have no data on carcogenic effects, no noted tumor formations in animals and the EPA has not clasified DNP for carcinogenicity.

Now, I would say if anything, the info you just provided make me feel even better about using it

 

[robby]

that's why too young people shouldn't use any drugs.
in a certain age everyone gives a shit about the risks.
so only knowledge will help. and for this reason it's great
to have a board like elite.

 

[brainiac]

So are you saying that the statement I have made is false?

Yes and no. AS and DNP are both dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. DNP has the potential to kill you quickly if you OD or dehydrate. Ii understand that and think a lot of kids here may not....yet. But as for AS, they are very harmful when used without knowledge. People will do what they gotta do and many will screw themselves up to some degree in the process. I would probably never take it because I am naturally skinny but who knows what science will provide us with tomorrow? I would like to find out all about it in open forums like this.

BTW, where can I find some serious medical read up on DNP and blood/liver/CNS affects, chem comp, proper values, half-life ect...?