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reese12

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I want to put on 5 to 10 pounds of muscle and add alot of strength. I have done some var cycles. My next cycle is going to be either Sust or Primo. Which do you guys recomment and at what doses. I appreciate the advice
 
If you got mad flow then do primo for sure... 1g primo per week for 10 weeks will do wonders...

If you are going to be subject to testing soon then stay with prop over sustanon.

If neither of the above apply then do 250 sust every 3rd day for 8 weeks. Front load that with 30mg Dbol ED for first 2-3 weeks and ur good to go.

Lastly, as a football player strength is key so my favorite cycle has to include tren. Tren-500/wk weeks 1-6, Test 250/wk weeks 1-8, Dbol 45mg ED Weeks 1-2, 7-8.
 
man how many cycles you got under your belt? Tren isn't anything to fuck with if your a novice...........go with something basic like Test and Deca or Test jump started with Dbol...........don't push it..........remember, diet and training is the number 1 thing, no drug is going to get you where you want to be if your diet and training isn't in check
 
Since you dont wana gain alotta weight, only 5-10lbs, and you've done var in past...IMO prop at 100-150mg/EOD with 50-75mg tren EOD will do wonders for you in the strength department. You'll gain some weight but you will mostlygain a alotta strength...
 
Nobodys mentioning how to gain strengh. One body part per day Lift between 6-8 reps. Then everything else plus clean food and protein. The reason why you concentrate on clean food and protein Is your cardio is extremely high.
 
if there is a risk of testing. the best route would be test.propionate and NPP. both have very short halflife. this will also be a very lean mass gain.
 
You need to let us know what kind of football. NCAA DIV-I or NFL and you are getting tested at least once for sure and then maybe again randomly. BigTravis is right...Prop or NPP are really your only choices for something that quickly leaves your system. You could probably get 5 pounds off of Winny too if you aren't very experienced and that would bring out some speed and strength.
 
I thought NPP was detectable up to a year after your last inject, supposedly just how long it takes progestones to clear your system??
 
I am a reciever in College. 6 3 200 pounds. I want to get to 210 and I have one year of eligablility left. I want to crack the starting lineup my last year. I need that extrakick to get over the hump. I am not worried about being tested. I have been doing research but time is running out and I really need to get started. I need your guys help. If getting tested was not an issue what do you guys reccomment to add 10 pounds of quality muscle and alot of strength. Thanks for your help.
 
a gram of primo, 75mg of var ed for 6 weeks, test prop 100mg eod and 75 mg tren ace eod, or my favorite tbol at 4 weeks. tbol should give you about 10 lbs of lean mass in 4 weeks, and it gave me the best strength gains ive gotten over winny, dbol, test and deca, all of them. i won't touch tren because of sleep but i know its incredible for strength
 
Nate82 said:
I thought NPP was detectable up to a year after your last inject, supposedly just how long it takes progestones to clear your system??
oooo. my bad. you caught my mistake bro. yes. actually upwards of 18 months. i had strictly short acting compounds in mind . damn. i know better than that. :worried: hows this?
prop. and tren. ace.
 
If you have not done a lot of gear, I would not start out at 1 gram of primo a week.

Maybe 500 test e, and 400 deca, for 8 weeks anti-e's and pct.
 
I would look towards the following compounds. I'm not sure which will react best with your body, but finding a good stack out of these would keep the water down (somewhat), and still give good strength and lbm.

Test Prop
Winny
Tren
Tbol
Deca
EQ

Obviously not all of these together. I'm also hesitant to suggest dosages because I don't know how your body reacts to these substances. I do very well at low doses, while others don't get anything from them.

Simple combinations like test and Tbol, or the test and winny would probably do great for you. I'd keep it simple at this point since your body is fairly new, and I don't think you'll have much trouble at all gaining that strength and mass.
 
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what do you think about running 250 of test and 40 of tbol for eight weeks? also I got shut down from a 6 week var cycle. What should I do to protect against this

TheMesonator said:
I would look towards the following compounds. I'm not sure which will react best with your body, but finding a good stack out of these would keep the water down (somewhat), and still give good strength and lbm.

Test Prop
Winny
Tren
Tbol
Deca

Obviously not all of these together. I'm also hesitant to suggest dosages because I don't know how your body reacts to these substances. I do very well at low doses, while others don't get anything from them.

Simple combinations like test and Tbol, or the test and winny would probably do great for you. I'd keep it simple at this point since your body is fairly new, and I don't think you'll have much trouble at all gaining that strength and mass.
 
mlong23 said:
How about quit looking for ways to cheat.

bro imo i wouldnt consider it "cheating"...i can say that the majority of collegiate level athletes as well as pro athletes take some sort of performance enhancing aids to gain an edge.
 
a failed drug test will kill ur career and reputation as well as embrass the shit out of ur family and yourself, think really hard bro and than do prop
 
Bro I would recommend a TEST PROP and WINSTROL cycle... Its fairly inexpensive and will get you were you need to be. You dont need all these expensive compounds like primo and VAR. I have collaborated with a few PRO football players and I promise Primo is not the anwser. Although I know its good the above mentioned will get you there.
 
reese12 said:
what do you think about running 250 of test and 40 of tbol for eight weeks? also I got shut down from a 6 week var cycle. What should I do to protect against this

This looks like a good cycle - read more about PCT before you begin but here is an example:

Sust 250 weeks 1 - 8
T-Bol weeks 1 - 8 (30mg, 30mg, 40mg, 40mg, 50mg, 50mg, 40mg, 40mg)
Nolva weeks 4 - 8 (50mg)
Clomid weeks 9 - 10 (100mg x 5 days then 50mg daily)

you may want to add Deca weeks 3 - 8 @ 400mg / week

Eat clean and eat a lot
2 - 3 protein shakes / MRP daily
Lift heavy - focus on compound movements (squat, deadlift, bench, pullups)
 
bro your playing college level football just be smart about what you take and manipulate your cycle according to any possibility of testing..IMO stay away from deca or sustanon or anything that is a longer acting ester...stick with the prop, var, tbol, tren...stuff that will not be detectable in your system for a long period of time...good luck
 
bro, if you dont mind adding weight. i'd say prop and a-bombs. but that will make you bloated. but if you're willing to sacrifice that for a loooooot of strength then i say thats your best bet.
 
P.S: Do NOT run winny. the thought of a contact sport like football and aching fragile joints doesnt sound too good.

On that note, deca wuld be good, strength would be good but you'd add weight. plus what if you got tested?

and whoever said taking gear is cheating. Wake up buddy. i bet 50% of his team takes it. plus you wanna talk about "fair", well im sure there are guys on his team that are 300lbs+, hes only 200, Hmmmmmmm is that fair.
 
stay away from deca as that stays in the system way too long.
do test prop 100mg eod along with some tbol at 40mg per day.
stay away from winny as that makes your tendons too brittle.
 
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