Food For Thought...From a Pro

[Themachine01]

Tryn2

That used to go on here all the time. This board was filled with pros and those who train and advise them on steroids. All the "secrets" were posted here regularly by people like E2. Those people are gone now and no one will take their place. Mainly because of the great job George has done promoting his board has driven them away because it's too high profile. The other reason is, you don't want to know what most of them use. If an E2 pro cycle was posted for someone here now there would be 300 people that would get on the thread and say, "that's insane" "no one needs that much" "you'll die doing that" "OMG slim shady have you lost your mind".
The pro-type cycles and contest preps don't fly here anymore because there was a shift in the board from hard core weight trainers and competitors to guys who just want to impress the bitches. As soon as they heard "you only need 500mg/wk" and the rest is training and diet they all rallied behind that, like they knew what they were talking about. As more newbies came and felt relieved that they didn't have to use high doses to impress the bitches it became "the right way" to cycle.
The thing about the pros, not the top pros, that cycle a gram +/- is that they do that ALL YEAR and then bump it up a little 12 weeks out.

Let me clarify something though. There is nothing wrong with the way the board has evolved and I am not an old schooler who thinks steroids are only for those who compete. Steroids make you look better and feel better and if you want to use them to get laid go for it. If you want to use them for a better quality of life, do it. But understand that you're greatly restricted in taking a casual approach as to the size you'll ever gain. You will never look like the pros if you don't live their life, like Dugdale told Detroit.

Very good post Ulter.

 

[AAP]

Date : January 9th

Name : Paul Baker

Height : 6'2"

Weight : 322

Incline Press : 315 x 20 reps

Cycle : 600mg Test Cypionate weekly

Training Philosophy : Never under 10 reps per set, never under 15 sets per exercise.

 

[poantrex]

Date : January 9th

Name : Paul Baker

Height : 6'2"

Weight : 322

Incline Press : 315 x 20 reps

Cycle : 600mg Test Cypionate weekly

Training Philosophy : Never under 10 reps per set, never under 15 sets per exercise.

I'm sure he's being completely truthful there, just like Lee Priest who claims to take just 1cc of deca a week. LOL!

 

[biteme]

As I've said a few times before on this board, I know IFBB Pro and this year's Arnold Classic invite Mark Dugdale. Recently I got down to business with him and talked about gear. I told him how much I take and what I've been taking. Waiting to hear back some crazy amount of gear and HGH he takes, I was stunned when he said I TOOK MORE THAN HIM! (Which at the time was about a gram)...He also told me the following, "Just go with what works for you, but I will say that you take more than I do. The secret is not in the drugs - it's in all the small things that make up the word discipline over the course of a year. Diet (7 quality meals a day - minimum), proper training and adequate rest is what will get you to your goals. I "out-progressed" fellow competitors because I did one extra rep when they quit, ate one extra meal in the off-season while they felt too full and skipped, I went to bed and got 10 hours of sleep while they went out on Friday night and got 4... Do you get the idea? In a sport that pushes the level of excellence - every minute detail matters!"

Interesting for sure, I'll be hittin the sack a little earlier these next few months.

I don't agree with that. He probably has great genetics. One extra rep, blah, I've heard some huge bodybuilders say the secret is never to go to failure.

 

[Madcow2]

I was a member here years ago and recently rejoined (lost my password and only recently created a new account) so it's an interesting perspective.

There's both a good and bad side to what's happened to this site over the years. The bad side is that a lot of knowledge, experience, and good people have left. There were always newb garbage threads and a few posts but when a question was asked the person almost always got the right answer the first time or at least by the 3rd or 4th post. I'm not seeing that anymore. I've seen a few long threads with morons giving advice and no one stepping in.

On the other side of that I remember seeing regular guys coming here and reading some cycle info and the next thing you know they are bridging into their 2nd cycle composed of over 1.3 grams weekly thinking that was what everyone needed to do to get gains (Hell, I have known people holding national, world and Olympic medals in weightlifting that never took that much and that includes lighter athletes as well as superheavies). Yeah, a pro BBer is going to need a boatload of juice to maintain that mass while he diets down ultra low but the average guy out there looking for some extra pounds gets caught up because he wants to make the most of his "one and only" cycle because he's "never going to touch it again." Nowadays it looks like things are a bit more under control from a dosage standpoint - I think the regular guy benefits here but it really sucks to see the knowledge base get depleted. There are still a number of really sharp guys here but some of the losses are very significant.

 

[AAP]

I'm sure he's being completely truthful there, just like Lee Priest who claims to take just 1cc of deca a week. LOL!

Considering he spends a good deal of time in my prescence and considering I know EXACTLY where he gets his sauce from, I can atest to what he uses.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

What the hell you talking about ..poantrex is not my boy....he is a tool just llike it says in his avatar... im sory but this realy pist me of im about to have a BF(bitch fit)...lol

Stupid ignorant fool, there is nothin gimoral about juicing i am a christian and if juicing was imoral i woud not be for it......Next Question.....BTW when you reply i will not reply back as my time is too presious to be wasting it on self proclaimed fools and tools like you....Oh and too tick you off 1 bit more....look at the map in my avatar...im willling to bet you are a hard core left wing liberal ... Cheers to you mate

 

[poantrex]

What the hell you talking about ..poantrex is not my boy....he is a tool just llike it says in his avatar... im sory but this realy pist me of im about to have a BF(bitch fit)...lol

Stupid ignorant fool, there is nothin gimoral about juicing i am a christian and if juicing was imoral i woud not be for it......Next Question.....BTW when you reply i will not reply back as my time is too presious to be wasting it on self proclaimed fools and tools like you....Oh and too tick you off 1 bit more....look at the map in my avatar...im willling to bet you are a hard core left wing liberal ... Cheers to you mate

Bwahaha. English, motherfucker. Do you speak it.

Submission to Civil Authorities (1 Peter 2:13-17)

13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority,

14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right.

15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men.

16 [Act] as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but [use it] as bondslaves of God. 17 Honor all men; love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.


You're a christian, yet you blatantly sin. God clearly says to obey man's law. Which obviously you aren't.

Hey its cool man, and you're not ticking me off. Actually, I find your nonsensical post quite funny. Or does God have an exception for you. Christians. LOL. God probably doesn't approve of your blatant homosexual tendencies either.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

1 more sentance to elevate your BP......" GOD BLESS AMERICA"
YES TOOL I SAID GOD GOD GOD.....GOD WILL ALWAYS STAY IN THIS COUNTRY.....GOD BLESS YOU TOO AS YOU NEED IT!

 

[biteme]

Bwahaha. English, motherfucker. Do you speak it.

Submission to Civil Authorities (1 Peter 2:13-17)

13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority,

14 or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right.

15 For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men.

16 [Act] as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but [use it] as bondslaves of God. 17 Honor all men; love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king.


You're a christian, yet you blatantly sin. God clearly says to obey man's law. Which obviously you aren't.

Hey its cool man, and you're not ticking me off. Actually, I find your nonsensical post quite funny. Or does God have an exception for you. Christians. LOL.

GOd didn't say that, some men did. Rosa Parks and others sinned then. LMAO