Food For Thought...From a Pro

[AAP]

Wasn't Dorian suspected of using the IV drip method at times for his cycle?

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Wasn't Dorian suspected of using the IV drip method at times for his cycle?

Man, can u imagine having to have a slow drip! That is INSANE!!!

 

[Gooseman]

hey guys, very good post i have to say...
maybe a little off topic, but just because I`m curious:

Do you have any info on what and how much the female athletes use? I dont mean the bodybuilders , but more like what the fitness/figure gals take.
That stuff would be really interesting to me. You always hear about 2 grams test this 3 grams deca that with the males. But there is not very much info on the women floating around.

 

[bicepts101]

hey guys, very good post i have to say...
maybe a little off topic, but just because I`m curious:

Do you have any info on what and how much the female athletes use? I dont mean the bodybuilders , but more like what the fitness/figure gals take.
That stuff would be really interesting to me. You always hear about 2 grams test this 3 grams deca that with the males. But there is not very much info on the women floating around.

there is a womens forum bro

 

[yomama1]

Wasn't Dorian suspected of using the IV drip method at times for his cycle?

IV drop method? what's that for

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

He was suspected of getting blood transfusions... I dunno about IV juice... it wouldn't make a difference...

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

He was suspected of getting blood transfusions... I dunno about IV juice... it wouldn't make a difference...

It wouldn't make a difference if he was getting juiced through IV 10hours a day? I'm confused, did this guy get IV's dripping blood or juice?!

 

[Texas Ranger]

Actually, if you talk to the vast majority of strength and conditioning coaches in the world from Div1, Pro, and Olympic you will find that there are few things more commonly agreed upon than the fact that going to failure on any type of consistent basis is very counterproductive to growth. The only small subsection are the HIT guys who are a rarity and generally favor machines over the more common free weight varriants - and I don't think anyone disagrees that squats, deads, benches, and powercleans are bread and butter exercises when it comes to increaseing muscle mass and athletic performance so when I say HIT is one letter away from SHIT, you know where I stand on both their beliefs.

I shit you not on this. It's a BBing and gym rat thing primarily. The best in the business do not use failure on any type of consistency. They might choose a focused assistance lift and hit it hard for a few weeks (a la Westside/L. Simmons) but nothing like always going to failure on the majority of exercises.

EDIT:

This is a really great thread at meso. It is arranged in a series of topics. The author is one of the finest coaches in the country and he is as big and strong as they come. The whole thing is excellent reading and I highly recommend a complete read - it will be the best 20-30 minutes you spend for your training. The pertinent topic is #3 Dual Factor Theory (single factor being supercompensation which is the essence of training to failure but the typical BBer methods take it to extremes which are very very inhibitive to progress - meaning natural athletes won't do well and drug enhanced athletes will need to take quite a bit more drugs to get the same effect of a solid properly arranged training program). Thread is here: http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=12

Thanks for posting the link, Madcow!!

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

It wouldn't make a difference if he was getting juiced through IV 10hours a day? I'm confused, did this guy get IV's dripping blood or juice?!

Well if his juice had a hour long 1/2 life... but 10 hours a day?! When would he workout?? HAHA!

 

[Makavelli]

hey guys, very good post i have to say...
maybe a little off topic, but just because I`m curious:

Do you have any info on what and how much the female athletes use? I dont mean the bodybuilders , but more like what the fitness/figure gals take.
That stuff would be really interesting to me. You always hear about 2 grams test this 3 grams deca that with the males. But there is not very much info on the women floating around.

The figure and fitness girls that I help/have helped used around 50-75 mgs deca or Eq/wk in the off season. Precontest it's always var at 10-20 mgs/day and 100-200 mgs of Primo/wk. Some use winny instead of 'var, but I always steer them toward 'var. They also use clen as high as 180 mcg/day and T3 up to 75 mgs/day. Both precontest.
Most of these athletes use AAS to maintain muscle while dieting and to keep their metabolism high so they don't gain a lot of fat.