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floyd landis tests positive...

Im guessing epo is diferent then testosterone? what would the benefit of using test for a sport where the only thing of importance is oxygen>?
 
Everyone should just boycott organized sports until they beg us to come back. Then we should say, if you want us back, so comes our hormones or fuck off.
 
a creed said:
Let's just put this to rest by assuming-KNOWING that every, single professional athlete is on some form of AAS.

PERIOD


P.S. - keep chippin' away Barry B.


NO SHIT. Now the other fuck on steroids will ge the victory!
 
lesarin said:
Im guessing epo is diferent then testosterone? what would the benefit of using test for a sport where the only thing of importance is oxygen>?
Increased red blood cells would increase the rate at which oxygen is transported through the body, and also the rate at which toxins are removed I would assume.
 
Can't you juice and still have a "normal" testosterone-epitestosterone ratio?

of course it requires a good doctor ....
 
It was on the news again tonight, they are going to test him "aqain" before anything official will be done, eg take away his rating and 1st place price. If he was on gear, test that is, it should be out of his system by the time they test him.

It was simply reported that his test levels were high, not that he had gear in his system.
 
comebackkid. said:
Oh, and Lance used EPO. Get over it.

What makes you think Lance used EPO?? Just because rumors abound?? How about the "sour grapes" syndrome is the source of the rumors. Whenever someone does as well as Lance someone wants to talk shit about him to make their losing less painful, especially the French.

Around here you have guys that say so and so is on the juice. But what they are really saying is I couldn't do that unless I was on a few grams a week. This is false logic. It only means that they couldn't do what ever without juice. It doesn't mean that others can't.

And as far as saying that someone does any drugs, be it roids or whatever, I want to see evidence not opinion. And I want the chain of custody to remain intack. There are so many f***heads that would do anything to tear someone down that I want to see that some low life couldn't have tampered with the evidance. Like Furman and OJ, how did the bood on his sock get heparin in it anyhow? If a cop is going to frame someone do you think some bicycle rider wouldn't???

Lack of integrity is a major problem in the world today.
 
Well, as the ONLY cat 1 elite rider on this board, and having rode with Lance, George, Tyler and many many many other US cyclists I'll say this.

When I was 16, I was fed dbol by a trainer with every fresh bottle of water. Test is something that as a mountain climber is very important, and I would not doubt it that in training people still use, but during competitons... not so much. Remember these guys work like world cup players TIMES 20!!! Can you imagine doing 100+ hours of cardio in 22 days?

Cyclists dehydrated very easily too, and that messes with the endocrine systels, chasnging ph and all that crazy stuff. At one point i was told i was a diabetic lol what i am saying here is that cyclists blow stuff out of the system so fast it is amazing.

ps, lance has 'normal' test levels, they just happen to be reading pharmaceutical grade test in his system, not natty test.

pps, skinny or not, we generally have REALLY low bf% and don't need yohimburn dnp etc lol... but George Hincapie for example is 6'3" and 175lbs with maybe 7-8%. He misses a meal and he'll pass out. I was 6' and 185-190 in riding form with incredible definition on my legs, arms, and abs. I could also do 10 reps easy full length leg presses @ well over the 880 stack we had at the gym when I was 15 years old. Now I am old and fat :(

Who do I think dopes or did:
the entire sport of cycling.
 
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