Flex Online,says Redmeat Good :/

[D00fy]

"#3 Eat Red Meat Daily
Red meat provides the body with fat to burn as fuel, protecting protein from being hacked away with impunity. Red meat is also packed with alanine, an anticatabolic amino that can be used as fuel without triggering an increase in insulin. Eat at least 50 g of protein per day from lean red meat sources (eye of round and flank steak are my two favorites). Split it between two meals: 25 g at breakfast (serve it with scrambled egg whites) and 25 g at another meal. Dividing it this way helps to keep a steady supply of alanine in your body, preventing the burning of protein for energy"

 

[gymrat]

I'm cutting, and i eat about 4oz of steak a day....yummmers

 

[D00fy]

yah but your doing the ULTIMATE DIET or something? many people say ditch steak when cutting,but i dunno im consuming 100gram carbs about 30fat so i guess 4oz-5oz steak would be okay to fit in my meal with a sweet potato and 2-3eggwhites

 

[gymrat]

yah but your doing the ULTIMATE DIET or something? many people say ditch steak when cutting,but i dunno im consuming 100gram carbs about 30fat so i guess 4oz-5oz steak would be okay to fit in my meal with a sweet potato and 2-3eggwhites

IF it fits into to cals, and protein, carb, fat ratio, why not.

 

[D00fy]

dam gymrat u getting alot of protein 340? on that diet how bad is constipation?

also can u post your diet or PM me i just wanna take a look curious for the 340 protein/c/f/cals thx

 

[gymrat]

Actually i'm getting around 250, but i'm going to up i think

 

[D00fy]

post your diet

 

[gymrat]

6 scoups of whey

3 oz of boneless chicken

1-2 cups of broccili

4 oz tuna

4 oz steak

9 large egg whites

1/2 cup of cottage cheeze

1/2 cup of oatmeal

1 tbs of mayo

1 tbs of flaxseed oil
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protein 250g
carbs under 50g
fat around 50-60g
total cals are 1900 or so

 

[=w=]

IF it fits into to cals, and protein, carb, fat ratio, why not.

Exactly gymrat - why dont people understand that?

 

[BatZgirl]

Cool

I'm cutting, and i eat about 4oz of steak a day....yummmers

Glad to see it helps coz I luv my red meat like mad

 

[D00fy]

dam 6 scoops of whey:/

 

[gymrat]

dam 6 scoops of whey:/

 

[Shinobi]

I eat 500grams of red meat a day and Im cutting with great results

 

[azod]

gymrat123
could you break that down into meals (i,e., meal 1: 9 large egg whites....)

 

[D00fy]

500grams protein= how much protein a day?

crap i dont feel like doing math:/

 

[gymrat]

8:00am 2 scoops of whey 1/2 cup of cottage cheeze

10:00am 3 oz of boneless chicken - 1/2 cup of veggies - 1tbs flax

12:00pm 2 scoops 1/2 cup of oatmeal

2:00pm 4 oz tuna 1 tbs of mayo

4:00pm 4 oz steak - 1 cup of broccili

6:00pm 9 large egg whites

8:00pm 2 scoops of whey

 

[azod]

Thanks gymrat123.
How well is this diet working for you?

 

[gymrat]

It has worked great for the first six weeks, but the fat loss is slowed down....I"ve been doing refeeds once a week (every seven days), but i'm going to start doing them ever four days.

 

[azod]

What are your stats? Are such low calories affecting your strength any?
I have been cutting up for 2 weeks: about 350 g protien, 150-200 g fat, and 50 g protien. No carbs on non-work out days. I lost 5lbs the first 5 days but I feel as if am I not loosing any now. I am dieting day 1-6 (mon-sat) and sun I usually eat whatever, mainly trying to carb up.
I started at 235lbs (5'11), now 230, strength down but in my bench only (strange).

 

[gymrat]

What are your stats? Are such low calories affecting your strength any?
I have been cutting up for 2 weeks: about 350 g protien, 150-200 g fat, and 50 g protien. No carbs on non-work out days. I lost 5lbs the first 5 days but I feel as if am I not loosing any now. I am dieting day 1-6 (mon-sat) and sun I usually eat whatever, mainly trying to carb up.
I started at 235lbs (5'11), now 230, strength down but in my bench only (strange).

5'9
169 bf 13%

 

[D00fy]

gymrat u can DO IT!!!!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gymrat]

Thanks doofy. My goal for now is 10%. If i can zero in on my diet, i would like to get there in three to four weeks.

 

[PwB]

I rarely rely on Flex for any sort of information, but I have to agree with this point, red meat is the best. For much more information from a more reliable source check out articles and books by Dr. Mauro DiPasquale, he swears by red meat. I'm currently cutting and taking in 370g protein a day, all from red meat, ocassionally from chicken or turkey, but red meat 95% of the time.
By the way, Shinobi, what's your diet look like and what type of results are u getting????

 

[D00fy]

gymrat on your refeed days what were you eating?

also on your diet you posted what is the postworkout carb? oatmeal?

 

[gymrat]

gymrat on your refeed days what were you eating?

also on your diet you posted what is the postworkout carb? oatmeal?

yeah my post workout meal is 2 scoops of whey and oatmeal

On my refeed days, i'm not really concerned with where the carbs are coming from as long as i'm getting around 300-400.

 

[D00fy]

oh cool

 

[Shinobi]

d00fy

500.000 gram [g] equivalent to: 17.6500 ounce [oz]

 

[Shinobi]

PwB here you go:

If I wake up late I dont have breakfast

8:00 Breakfast: 25grams of protein + 1 serving oatmeal (27gr of carbs)

10:30 - 200grams of tuna(40gr protein) + 1 serv. rice (38gr carbs)

01:00PM - 200grams of tuna(40gr protein) + 1 serv.rice(38gr carbs)+1tbs flax
02:00PM workout + 20min of cardio (really intensive)
03:00PM post workout shake 60gr carbs from malto plus 30gr protein

05:30PM 500grams of extra lean ground meat + 1 1/2 zuchini, 1 carrot, 1/2
eggplant, 1/2 brocholis and +- 2 cups of spinach

08:00PM 2 scoops of protein (50gr)

10:30PM Salmon filet + 1 1/2 zuchini, 1 carrot, 1/2
eggplant, 1/2 brocholis and +- 2 cups of spinach

If I go to bed 1 hour after my last meal I dont eat nothing...just take my ZMA but if I go to bed around 12:00AM/01:00AM or I drink the night formula from protein factory or if Im really hungry I eat 200grams of extra lean ground turkey with 1 tbs flax oil BUT no cottage cause contain calcium and ZMA cannot be take right after ingesting calcium... I dont know why but that in the ZMA label... I workout 2 days on 1 day off and I do cardio every training day

 

[Shinobi]

While red meat is generally higher in fat than poultry, some cuts of red meat such as top round or eye of round are almost as lean as chicken breast. From a bodybuilding standpoint, it's a good idea to go ahead and include some lean red meat in your diet if you enjoy it. Salmon and other varieties of fish are also excellent protein sources. The fat content in a 5 oz. Piece of Salmon can vary widely from as little as 5 grams in Pink Salmon to as much as 15 grams in Chinook Salmon. As with red meat, don't completely eschew Salmon because of the fat. As a matter of fact, the fat in Salmon is less saturated than red meat and can provide you with essential fatty acids. Pick your protein sources carefully, but remember that trying to remove 100% of the fat from your diet is not necessary. Nearly everyone who keeps a little fat in their diet experiences better fat loss, higher energy levels, more strength and more muscle growth than those who try to go the extreme and eat close to zero fat. While you should choose proteins that are as lean as possible, the small amount of saturated fat that is in a lean cut of red meat won't kill you, and it might just help you pack on more muscle.


PROTEIN & FAT GRAMS FOR LEAN MEATS
Type Quantity Protein (g.) Fat (g.)
Turkey Breast 4 Oz. 33.9 g. 3.7 g.
Chicken breast 4 Oz 35.1 g 5.1 g.
Beef, eye of round 4 Oz 33.1 g. 6.5 g.
Beef, top round 4 Oz 36.1 g. 6.7 g.
Beef, round, full cut 4 Oz 33.1 g. 8.3 g.
Beef, top sirloin 4 Oz 34.4 g. 9.1 g.
Salmon, Pink 5 Oz 36.0 g. 5.0 g.
Salmon, Atlantic 5 Oz 28.8 g. 9.2 g.
Salmon, Chinook 5 Oz 29.2 g. 15.2 g.

 

[D00fy]

thx

 

[barnidge]

GYMRAT,
How often do you do cardio and for how long?

 

[gymrat]

GYMRAT,
How often do you do cardio and for how long?

I do cardio 3-4 times a week. varying intensity, and varying length. Anywhere from 20-45 minutes.

 

[D00fy]

cardio evil:/

gymrat on your carbload days,do you weight train before starting your refeed?

 

[gymrat]

cardio evil:/

gymrat on your carbload days,do you weight train before starting your refeed?

ummm, yeah. I start when i wake up. Though i don't have any carbs about 1.5 hours before weight training.

 

[D00fy]

werd ,hmm if im under 15% bf i need to refeed every 4days werd

 

[gymrat]

yeah i'm going to try if for a couple of weeks (refeeding more often), i'll be sure to let you know my progress.

 

[D00fy]

definately ,how much are you looking to lose?

 

[gymrat]

well i'm currently about 13% bf right now, perhaps a little under. My goal is to get to at least 10%

 

[D00fy]

gymrat let me know how it goes,cause i been dieting since 2nd week of JAN i started since i took december OFF for resting/holidays/pigging out...........right now i notice results ,seems to me the lower stomach/gut whaeva is goin away,notice a lower 4pack not the top 2abs showing,gotta work on ab works but none the less results have been great........that hopefully next week i will change my meal by adding red meat.......because like the ATKINS DIET you reach a certain weight and u reach a plateau......and than you have to do a FAT FAST plan to get yourself out of that and burn more fat.......so i figure by adding RED MEAT.....I will slightly increase fat burning ability......cause eating chicken breast and cottage cheese for about 7weeks gets a little boring.......but especially chicken breast for meal 5 since i cant cook good and steak is YUMMMMMMM..............

 

[gymrat]

gymrat let me know how it goes,cause i been dieting since 2nd week of JAN i started since i took december OFF for resting/holidays/pigging out...........right now i notice results ,seems to me the lower stomach/gut whaeva is goin away,notice a lower 4pack not the top 2abs showing,gotta work on ab works but none the less results have been great........that hopefully next week i will change my meal by adding red meat.......because like the ATKINS DIET you reach a certain weight and u reach a plateau......and than you have to do a FAT FAST plan to get yourself out of that and burn more fat.......so i figure by adding RED MEAT.....I will slightly increase fat burning ability......cause eating chicken breast and cottage cheese for about 7weeks gets a little boring.......but especially chicken breast for meal 5 since i cant cook good and steak is YUMMMMMMM..............

Sounds like you're on top of things bro.

way to go. Keep it up. And keep me posted
:0`

 

[D00fy]

I LOVE CHICKEN,omg I just had about 1lb and 1/2 off grilled protein.I WANT MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! thank goodness for digestive enzymes