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danbo

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I might be starting to follow "the skinny bastard" diet soon. It says that i need 40g of good fats per day, 20g of which needs to come from fish oil.

I have bought omega-3 tablets. They contain 1g of fish oils per tablet.

Do i really need to eat 20 of these per day?

For 90 tablets it cost me £3.99, if i take 20 a day, thats only 4.5 days they will last for and thats way too expensive.
 
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you can get fish oil from fish too (salmon, tuna, etc) but if you aint eating then yes you would have to swallow 20 to these
 
Hazard said:
you can get fish oil from fish too (salmon, tuna, etc) but if you aint eating then yes you would have to swallow 20 to these
There isn't much in most fish, there is no way i can afford to take 20 omega-3 pills a day.
 
No there is no need at all to take 20g of fish oil it is foolish and irresponsible. You need to aim for 3-4g epa/dha a day. Studies show above this there is no increase in health benefits but an increase in glucose intolerance which i am sure you can understand is bad.
 
WhiteDragon said:
You can always buy the liquid form. 1 tbsp = 14 grams. It's a lot cheaper than the pills.

Agreed the liquid form is MUCH more economical. I've used liquid fish oil before and feel I should warn that the taste and aftertaste is really awful. So bad that every once in a while I'd gag on it and, to put it delicately, need to take another dose :worried: . And I am not generally sensitive to nastiness in my supplements.

Having said that, I do recommend the liquid fish oil. Just understand that it is probably one of the most vile substances you will ever consume.
 
danbo said:
I might be starting to follow "the skinny bastard" diet soon. It says that i need 40g of good fats per day, 20g of which needs to come from fish oil.

I have bought omega-3 tablets. They contain 1g of fish oils per tablet.

Do i really need to eat 20 of these per day?

For 90 tablets it cost me £3.99, if i take 20 a day, thats only 4.5 days they will last for and thats way too expensive.

Check out the EPA and DHA in one teaspoon of this! If you find anything more potent, let me know - but this stuff is currently *the business*:

http://www.1stvitality.com/acatalog/Nutrasea_HP.html
 
sgtslaughter said:
Udo's Choice Oil... look it up, great stuff.



:coffee:


Udos oil like all plant derived omega 3 sources is poor. It provides ala which has to be converted in the body to epa/dha. This is inefficient by about 50% and hampered by low mineral intake or saturated fat intake within a certain period.
Udos oil is highly omega 6s and 9s.
Omega 6 the modern diet contains far too much of in the first place and omega 9s can be found simply in olive oil. For omega 3s fish is the best choice and as i have stated all scienific research only shows harm in going over 4g epa/dha daily

Maxgain
 
zaxxon1982 said:
Agreed the liquid form is MUCH more economical. I've used liquid fish oil before and feel I should warn that the taste and aftertaste is really awful. So bad that every once in a while I'd gag on it and, to put it delicately, need to take another dose :worried: . And I am not generally sensitive to nastiness in my supplements.

Having said that, I do recommend the liquid fish oil. Just understand that it is probably one of the most vile substances you will ever consume.

Yeah, it tastes bad. Try putting it with stuff. I actually put mine in my protein shakes with a lot of scoops of protein. You'll get used to it. If you take it raw though you're more of a man than me.
 
WhiteDragon said:
Yeah, it tastes bad. Try putting it with stuff. I actually put mine in my protein shakes with a lot of scoops of protein. You'll get used to it. If you take it raw though you're more of a man than me.

EXACTYL!. Lol i take 3 teaspoons of my fish oil in the monring with my vitamins. But my fish oil is Lemon Lime Flavor. Still feels really nasty goin down,
and dont forgot the oil burps lol

but i got mine from the vitamin shop wich yields 1250mg Of Omega 3 Fatty Accids
EPA=735
DHA=480
Vitamin Shop Brand
 
Be careful with high doses of omega-3's. If it's not purified, it might contain high levels of mercury and/or PCB's.

To my knowledge, only one brand that is purified is available over-the-counter (OmegaRx). Omecor is a prescription product that is purified. Both of these contain extremely high levels of EPA and DHA.
 
danbo said:
What does EPA and DHA mean?

p.s. I'll still need to take 8 tablespoons a day in order to get 20g of it though.

I dont know of any bodybuilder/weight lifter/power lifter/strong man/oly lifter that has as much as 20g a day, and even after researching only came accross one study which dealt at a dose like that. 1-2 teaspoons of this per day is more than enough.

Most guys/girls (gotta be PC) here will take Flax Oil. Problem is, the body has to break this down into EPA and DHA and during that process allot of those healthy fats are lost, which is why I use this product (of clinical quality). It has a lemon taste which is great too, and it very rarely repeats itself on me (burps).

If you want to check out the benefits of EPA DHA do a search on google - there is a tonne of all round benefits, there really is.

Assertive Guy
 
danbo said:
What does EPA and DHA mean?

p.s. I'll still need to take 8 tablespoons a day in order to get 20g of it though.

I dont know of any bodybuilder/weight lifter/power lifter/strong man/oly lifter that has as much as 20g a day, and even after researching only came accross one study which dealt at a dose like that. 1-2 teaspoons of this per day is more than enough.

Most guys/girls (gotta be PC) here will take Flax Oil. Problem is, the body has to break this down into EPA and DHA and during that process allot of those healthy fats are lost, which is why I use this product (of clinical quality). It has a lemon taste which is great too, and it very rarely repeats itself on me (burps).

If you want to check out the benefits of EPA DHA do a search on google - there is a tonne of all round benefits, there really is.

Assertive Guy
 
danbo said:
What does EPA and DHA mean?

p.s. I'll still need to take 8 tablespoons a day in order to get 20g of it though.


EPA and DHA are the form of omega 3s that are used by the body but cant be created by body precursors. They have a major role in prostaglandin synthesis and thus responsible for many physiological functions including inflammation as stated a simple google search will answer.

And i will reiterate again get the notion of 20g out of your head it is 3-4g epa/dha a day you need to take. After that cost and side effects are the issues.
Also do not use flaxoil a reputable brand of fish oil preferably with mercury levels tested for is what you should take.
 
Assertive Guy said:
I dont know of any bodybuilder/weight lifter/power lifter/strong man/oly lifter that has as much as 20g a day, and even after researching only came accross one study which dealt at a dose like that. 1-2 teaspoons of this per day is more than enough.

Most guys/girls (gotta be PC) here will take Flax Oil. Problem is, the body has to break this down into EPA and DHA and during that process allot of those healthy fats are lost, which is why I use this product (of clinical quality). It has a lemon taste which is great too, and it very rarely repeats itself on me (burps).

If you want to check out the benefits of EPA DHA do a search on google - there is a tonne of all round benefits, there really is.

Assertive Guy
I am quoting the "Skinny Bastard" diet here, i am what you might call a skinny bastard and i am finding it hard to eat the correct diet, so i might follow that one.
 
Yeah, it makes no sense to concentrate on Omega 6's. Concentrate on Omega 3's from supplementation and food, this is the problem that most of us are deficient in. As mentioned, it would probably take a year of totally avoiding n6's dilligently to have any effect on your stores.
 
XtremeAdventures said:
Good afternoon all, has anyone taken Jarrows formula Organic Flaxseed oil softgels, to get their omega 3,6,9?

You don't really need a supplement for omega-6s unless you are eating an extremely strict diet. Western diets are full of omega-6s.

danbo - A normal 1000mg serving of fish oil has 300mg of Omega-3s in it, 180mg EPA and 120MG DHA. That would work out to 3600mg EPA and 2400mg DHA a day. So if you take extra potent oils you need to calculate out how much you need to reach those levels.

The ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 is supposed to be anywhere from 4:1 up to 1:2. I don't know where you guys are going to get your extra 20g a day of unsaturated fats the diet calls for but not getting enough omega 6s to counteract the omega 3s could be bad too. You'd be eating 6g a day of omega 3 on this diet. Peanuts are high in omega 6s.
 
danbo said:
I might be starting to follow "the skinny bastard" diet soon. It says that i need 40g of good fats per day, 20g of which needs to come from fish oil.

I have bought omega-3 tablets. They contain 1g of fish oils per tablet.

Do i really need to eat 20 of these per day?

For 90 tablets it cost me £3.99, if i take 20 a day, thats only 4.5 days they will last for and thats way too expensive.
take 2 per day.
 
Lao Tzu said:
You don't really need a supplement for omega-6s unless you are eating an extremely strict diet. Western diets are full of omega-6s.

danbo - A normal 1000mg serving of fish oil has 300mg of Omega-3s in it, 180mg EPA and 120MG DHA. That would work out to 3600mg EPA and 2400mg DHA a day. So if you take extra potent oils you need to calculate out how much you need to reach those levels.

The ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 is supposed to be anywhere from 4:1 up to 1:2. I don't know where you guys are going to get your extra 20g a day of unsaturated fats the diet calls for but not getting enough omega 6s to counteract the omega 3s could be bad too. You'd be eating 6g a day of omega 3 on this diet. Peanuts are high in omega 6s.

Typical modern diets are so high in omega 6s it probably wouldnt be a problem average diets have up to 20:1 ratio.

However The diet is wrong to recommend that much omega 3 I couldnt care if it was caleed the "skinny pencilneck ethiopians look fat compared to me i blow away in the wind diet" it will not put on the mass for you but even be a hinderance.
 
Maxgain said:
Typical modern diets are so high in omega 6s it probably wouldnt be a problem average diets have up to 20:1 ratio.

However The diet is wrong to recommend that much omega 3 I couldnt care if it was caleed the "skinny pencilneck ethiopians look fat compared to me i blow away in the wind diet" it will not put on the mass for you but even be a hinderance.
It actually said something along the lines of "you need 40g of good fat a day, 20g of which should come from fish oils (preferably tablets and not solid food)"
 
danbo said:
It actually said something along the lines of "you need 40g of good fat a day, 20g of which should come from fish oils (preferably tablets and not solid food)"


Yeah but its wrong there is no scientific backing for it that is too much omega 3s and too little good fats.
 
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