First Timer . . . .

[Paulo]

wow, well since reading all yalls posts it's swayed my mind

i won't get into specifics with people i know who have taken gear, but the gains i with them were amazing for people who never worked out before. i don't know side effects they have and i don't think they will tell me they haven't had a hard on in months but from what i have heard can happen will make me delay my decision. i know at 17 my eating habbits are poor and NOW my workout schduel is sad because of not playing sports my senior year, but i'll go over my diet and draw out a routine right now that i'll start up soon and keep as natural as i can.

well, I am impressed I hope you're serious and am glad that you have taken our experience and opinions into account. I apologize if I was a bit harsh, but I've seen the "nobody's gonna change my mind" attitude quite a many times. So, I still stand behind what I said, just don't let it apply to you.

Give it at least a few more years. I know it seems like a long time but its not. Besides, if you aren't eating and training right, the juice will be a waste. Also, consider that the majority of people who start juicing don't stop. I never touched it till I was 23, and many people think that is still too young. Although, I was lead to believe I needed it (but that's a whole nother thread) Either way, I have no plans to hang up the hat now.

If you need help with diet and routines, you have found the right place, there are some awesome people here that will really help you get dialed in, if you can do your part. by reconsidering your position, you have already showed a willingness to listen, so, as long as you maintain that, you will have no problem finding people to help you.

best of luck and if my anorexic ass could do it, I'm sure you can.

 

[BOOEY]

Until you got a solid routine and diet and some good quality years of training under your belt, you'll just be throwing your money away. Invest in some protein powder, multi-v, creatine and get dedicated first. From now until the day you are ready, read up on as much as you can about AAS, so when the time comes, you'll know how to run an effective and efficient cycle.

 

[LVTitan]

hey mods can we sticky this for a while, lot of newbies should read this post, hell everyone should read this post .....

 

[RADAR]

hey mods can we sticky this for a while, lot of newbies should read this post, hell everyone should read this post .....

I'm going to stick this to keep this from being repeated!

RADAR

 

[FamousAmos]

Ok, I'm incredibly inexperienced, but I'm throwing this out there so that maybe someone else can give specifics.

Since you DO have alot of hormones naturally, and your body is naturally inclined to produce hormones at your age, wouldn't something like DHEA be a SUPER help to you? Because it encourages your body, and yours is particularly receptive? Subject to what the guys here say about it, I'd at least give something like that a try before you compromise your future permanant growth.

 

[Bozwell]

hey guys, i'm GOING to be a first timer soon and i got questions over all of this . . . but lemme give u my background first . . .

i am 17, and ya ya i'm TOO young and will stop growing but i AM doing this so just please give me advise. I'm 6'4" 200lbs about 14% body fat, i usually don't work out much unless i was in my athletic program, i.e. football and basketball. during football i'v been at about 215 but have stopped playing so haven't worked out much since. I know a few people that have taken mostly Test and Deca to bulk up. i belive it was test 300 and deca 400, from a company that makes these for livestock mostly... so this might be what i'm going to get because i don't know anyone else.....

so now for my questions.....

1. Is this company safe. . . i think i'v seen some posts here talking about a QV, when i looked at my friends bottle i think i saw that on the box for it, it was like a pinkish/redish box based out of Mexico or NewMexico i think....

2. Is this a smart starter cycle. Test 300 and Deca 400 for a 3-4 week cycle? should i add anything else to balance out side effects of these, and what are some side effects with this...

3. What do i need to do before or after my cycle, i'm afraid of bitch tits but never heard of anyone i know getting them, i'm not looking to be very large, just bulk up to about 220 so i might just do 2 4week cycles hoping to gain atleast 10lbs from each cycle.

4. What were some of your workout schduels like during your first cycle... i'm still in school and work about 40+ hrs a week, so the only time i think i'd be able to work out is from 10pm - 1am. (work retail management so depending on customers i don't leave sometimes until 10 to 12) This would be more towards the end of my day so i'm usually a little physically worn and pretty mentall worn.

5. Injecting... =( .... scarry for me. I don't mind shots at the Docs, but doing it myself is freaking me out. Should i just get over it and stick the needle in my ass? Where else do i have a choice that is SAFEST, and what all would i need for a "starter kit" besides the Test and Deca. Needles.... how long? Wipes or anything else? Anti Estrogen Pills?

sorry my questions are kinda scattered... if u just wanna quote one of the questions and post a answer for it, it would be easier to read. and once again i WILL BE DOING THIS, so though yall will say i'm too young, help me doing it the right way and not choose a stupid path.

If you are 6 4 @200lbs and you are only 17 you dont need aas your a natural freak if you are going to do aas start the research now and by the time your 20 you might know what your dealing with!! its very easy to fuck your self up good

 

[bw1]

hey guys, i'm GOING to be a first timer soon and i got questions over all of this . . . but lemme give u my background first . . .

i am 17, and ya ya i'm TOO young and will stop growing but i AM doing this so just please give me advise. I'm 6'4" 200lbs about 14% body fat, i usually don't work out much unless i was in my athletic program, i.e. football and basketball. during football i'v been at about 215 but have stopped playing so haven't worked out much since. I know a few people that have taken mostly Test and Deca to bulk up. i belive it was test 300 and deca 400, from a company that makes these for livestock mostly... so this might be what i'm going to get because i don't know anyone else.....

so now for my questions.....

1. Is this company safe. . . i think i'v seen some posts here talking about a QV, when i looked at my friends bottle i think i saw that on the box for it, it was like a pinkish/redish box based out of Mexico or NewMexico i think....

2. Is this a smart starter cycle. Test 300 and Deca 400 for a 3-4 week cycle? should i add anything else to balance out side effects of these, and what are some side effects with this...

3. What do i need to do before or after my cycle, i'm afraid of bitch tits but never heard of anyone i know getting them, i'm not looking to be very large, just bulk up to about 220 so i might just do 2 4week cycles hoping to gain atleast 10lbs from each cycle.

4. What were some of your workout schduels like during your first cycle... i'm still in school and work about 40+ hrs a week, so the only time i think i'd be able to work out is from 10pm - 1am. (work retail management so depending on customers i don't leave sometimes until 10 to 12) This would be more towards the end of my day so i'm usually a little physically worn and pretty mentall worn.

5. Injecting... =( .... scarry for me. I don't mind shots at the Docs, but doing it myself is freaking me out. Should i just get over it and stick the needle in my ass? Where else do i have a choice that is SAFEST, and what all would i need for a "starter kit" besides the Test and Deca. Needles.... how long? Wipes or anything else? Anti Estrogen Pills?

sorry my questions are kinda scattered... if u just wanna quote one of the questions and post a answer for it, it would be easier to read. and once again i WILL BE DOING THIS, so though yall will say i'm too young, help me doing it the right way and not choose a stupid path.

Good to see you are reading what everyone has posted! Read them again!

 

[TheRide]

I'm somewhat speachless right now over this thread....

Everyone covered everythign I think... all I can say is:

"You spend days, weeks, months reseraching what car or what TV to buy.... but such little time researching a substance that you plan to inject into your body..."

 

[Jarbeebus]

I Did it at 17

Back in the wonderful year of 1996 (when we partied like it was 1999), a number of my athlete friends and I decided it was time to "juice". So, through an acquaintance I got a 6 week cycle of "Sustanon 250". Basically, i knew nothing about the steroid other than what was printed on the box.

So after some apprehension, I started injecting 1 vial per week into my ass cheek and lifting daily. I was already a very athletic 5'10 170 lbs. Well, I gained nothing during the injections, but the psycological effects were dramatic. I almost choked the shit out of my girlfriend of 3 years and alienated my angry self from my friends. My appetite was twice that of it's previous modest self. There was no hiding the fact that something was going on which was very unnatural...everyone knew.

Shortly after the injections ended, i gained about 20 lbs of mostly water weight, my balls shrunk to about half their natural size, and my nipples were suddenly droopy. I was bigger, but the only musculariture was my once-shredded self peeking out from underneath the watersuit the sostenon (sustenon) had provided. My hairline immediately began to recede despite a 75 year old grandfather on my mother's side who had almost a full head of hair. The recession did not stop for almost 5 years when I discovered Nioxin shampoo, but the damage was done.

Lets fastforward to almost 9 years after the original "cycle". After a very irregular workout schedule through college combined with a very regular drinking schedule, 2 years of inactivity, and 2 year of vigorous lifting, I am back to a fairly solid 220 lbs (14% bodyfat). (hey screw you guys who did the math...college takes some of us 5 years hehe). Only now do i really feel ready to attempt a true AAS cycle.

This time, the PCT (do you know what this means?) gear will cost me more than the actual AAS. To do this right you need to ask questions, do research, and understand how everything fits together.

My honest recommendation...from someone who has been there...just wait. You can achieve amazing results with supplements, hard work, and your naturally high young male testosterone levels.

Think...enjoy your youth, get ahead now, and stick around to learn from the superb community here. Nobody here is trying to hold you back.

 

[FknKnuckleHd]

Whatever happened to just good'ol fashion hard work and eating all the chicken you could lay your hands on?? That should be your first step after you master that after 7 or 8yrs then consider ass. You don't walk into a Karate studio for the first time and expect to walk out with a black belt.....baby steps grasshopper!