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[Lupercal CATS]

ok great suggestions guys. with just test and then either winny or var will i get much bloat

i am REALLY trying to stay away from any bloat
and you cant really get gyno with just test can you ?

Yes you can get gyno with test.

Get some arimidex to get rid of the bloat. About .25-.5mgs eod or e3ds will help to keep it away. I used 1mg because it was in a cap so i would use it about e4 or 5d.

Always have some nolvadex on hand incase of gyno, the arimidex should help to prevent some gyno.

Check out the PCT forum.

It's bed time for me tonight, happy hunting.

 

[Mr. Troy]

i have to get up at 5 am for work tomorrow so i will get on when i get home to see what else you guys have to add. Thank you to all. i really appreciate the help. i really want to acheive my goals and i thank you for helping me.


Troy

 

[asianlover]

ok great suggestions guys. with just test and then either winny or var will i get much bloat

i am REALLY trying to stay away from any bloat
and you cant really get gyno with just test can you ?

yes you can get gyno from just test. if you want to reduce bloat run .5mg eod of adex or liquidex. i am taking that plus 10mg ed of nolva to prevent gyno. no bloat yet and im of test/dbol.

 

[Mr. Troy]

ok so only take the noladex if i start to notice gyno.

 

[Bruce]

yes

 

[asianlover]

just do this

500mg test/wk wks 1-10 (either sust, enth, or cyp)
30mg dbol/day wks 1-4

run some adex through out to minimize bloat and have nolva on hand incase u get gyno. i take it everyday but i am kinda gyno proned and dont want to take any chances. inject the test 250mg 2x/wk. like 1 shot monday and 1 shot thursday. take the dbol in 3 doses throughout the day. take some livber supps like milkthisle,liv 52, or tylers liver detox while you are using the dbol. do you know about PCT?

 

[Beachbum1546]

Cypionate isn't multiestered. It is nearly identically to enanthate.

Edit: How did I lose 2000 karma?

my bad, i meant sustanon

 

[bluehen]

mr.troy welcome! Looks like you are getting the info you need good luck with your cycle. You may want to use 23g inch and a half for glutes. THe 25g will be fine for the quad's or delts.

 

[Lupercal CATS]

mr.troy welcome! Looks like you are getting the info you need good luck with your cycle. You may want to use 23g inch and a half for glutes. THe 25g will be fine for the quad's or delts.

Go with the quads or delts, glutes are the devil.

 

[Mr. Troy]

thanks everyone! so i should do clomid after week 10 right ?

i think im gonna go with test e 250 twice a week, oral var starting in week 5, some noladex throughout and liqiudex too to minimize bloat.

thanks again everyone !